two pany 32' tvs - whats the difference?

steveOooo · 12-08-2008, 22:56

On the market for a 32' tv with the view to buying a ps3 - want to either get a panasonic or toshiba tv (current tosh crt is 12 years old and still going strong-sister has it)

Looking at the following two latest (i think) pany tvs on amazon - one is £150+ more - why ?

£495 model

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Panasonic-TX...8577931&sr=8-4

£649 model

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Panasonic-TX...8578143&sr=8-6

Is it purely one is the most recent model, the other is older - getting rid of old stock etc..? or is the £649 one better specced?

PK - the King · 12-08-2008, 23:05

The more expensive one is a "Full HD" TV. Means it can take and display a 1080p picture (1920x1080), whereas the cheaper one will only do 1080i (commonly these display an image of 1280x768). Essentially, the more expensive one is better specced.

steveOooo · 12-08-2008, 23:19

but 1080p on a 32 tv wont be a massive step up in res than 1080i? or will it?

sancheeez · 12-08-2008, 23:32

1080p and 1080i are the same resolution.

Max resolution on the cheaper one: 1366x768
Max resolution on the expensive one: 1920 x 1080

The cheaper one is lower resolution (there are probably other differences but thats the obvious one). It's HD Ready, the more expensive one is Full HD.

It'll still take a 1080i signal (which is 1920x1080 - interlaced) but it'll scale it to fit it's lower resolution.

On a 32" screen, you'd struggle to see much difference to be honest. Full HD comes into it's own on really big panels. Yes there will be a very slight difference on a smaller panel but not a lot. Enough to warrant another £150? If they are otherwise as good as each other, then not in my book.

skinj · 12-08-2008, 23:54

They both take a 1080p signal. The lxd is not a 1920x1080 screen and has to downscale the image. The lzd is a 1920x1080 screen and so displays the image at it's native reolution. At 32" both sets will give superb pictures. The lzd has slightly higher sound quality and a different design.

sancheeez · 13-08-2008, 10:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinj

They both take a 1080p signal.

Not so sure about that.

Full spec for the TX32LXD85 (the cheaper one) is listed here:

http://www.hispek.com/P/Panasonic-TX...X32LXD85).aspx

... and it mentions:

Compatible Signal Formats 480p/720p/1080i

steveOooo · 13-08-2008, 10:46

think he may of ment if you feed it a 1080p signal, it just downscales its lower resolution and has it as 1080i - something like that! but i think as stated before, cos its 32', there wont be a big difference between 1080i vs full hd

Nigel Goodwin · 13-08-2008, 11:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by steveOooo

think he may of ment if you feed it a 1080p signal, it just downscales its lower resolution and has it as 1080i - something like that! but i think as stated before, cos its 32', there wont be a big difference between 1080i vs full hd

1080i is Full HD - the resolution of 1080i and 1080P is exactly the same - the only difference is that 1080P50 (if used) gives 50 pictures per second, whereas 1080i50 and 1080P25 give 25 pictures per second.

The advantage is that 1080P50 will give slightly better results on fast moving action - but it's no higher resolution.

nancyboy · 13-08-2008, 13:41

The more expensive LZD is ranked No 1 best buy in Which with a rating of 84%, while the cheaper LXD is rated No 2 Best Buy with a rating of 81%.

If that's to be believed then these 2 TVs are as good as you will get. The price difference will be narrower than Amazon suggests, the more expensive one should be under £600 if you shop around.

Regarding Toshiba - forget it - if you look at the Which? Top 20 TVs, 15 of them are Panasonic including all the Top 7, and the other 5 in the Top 20 are all Sony. No other brand gets a look in.

CRT was a very mature and stable technology, unlike LCD. I don't think any of today's TVs will be working very well after 12 years' use but I might be wrong. In any case today's LCD technology will be overtaken with much better quality over the next 5 years so that's maybe a reasonable lifespan.

If price is a big issue, the Panasonic LMD now on offer at £399 (Richer Sounds) was ranked 6th by Which and is pretty good.

skinj · 14-08-2008, 22:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by sancheeez

Not so sure about that.

Full spec for the TX32LXD85 (the cheaper one) is listed here:

http://www.hispek.com/P/Panasonic-TX...X32LXD85).aspx

... and it mentions:

Compatible Signal Formats 480p/720p/1080i

Of course you could quote the actual spec from here!
TX32LXD80
http://tda.panasonic-europe-service....QB0E0553-1.pdf on Page 50

or
TX32LXD85
http://tda.panasonic-europe-service..../TQB0E0566.pdf on page 50

sancheeez · 14-08-2008, 23:13

Fair do's.

skinj · 15-08-2008, 12:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by sancheeez

Fair do's.

Never trust anyone on spec's but the Manufacturer!

12-08-2008, 22:56	#1
steveOooo Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: London Posts: 4,470	two pany 32' tvs - whats the difference? On the market for a 32' tv with the view to buying a ps3 - want to either get a panasonic or toshiba tv (current tosh crt is 12 years old and still going strong-sister has it) Looking at the following two latest (i think) pany tvs on amazon - one is £150+ more - why ? £495 model http://www.amazon.co.uk/Panasonic-TX...8577931&sr=8-4 £649 model http://www.amazon.co.uk/Panasonic-TX...8578143&sr=8-6 Is it purely one is the most recent model, the other is older - getting rid of old stock etc..? or is the £649 one better specced?

13-08-2008, 13:41	#9
nancyboy Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 822	Both Excellent The more expensive LZD is ranked No 1 best buy in Which with a rating of 84%, while the cheaper LXD is rated No 2 Best Buy with a rating of 81%. If that's to be believed then these 2 TVs are as good as you will get. The price difference will be narrower than Amazon suggests, the more expensive one should be under £600 if you shop around. Regarding Toshiba - forget it - if you look at the Which? Top 20 TVs, 15 of them are Panasonic including all the Top 7, and the other 5 in the Top 20 are all Sony. No other brand gets a look in. CRT was a very mature and stable technology, unlike LCD. I don't think any of today's TVs will be working very well after 12 years' use but I might be wrong. In any case today's LCD technology will be overtaken with much better quality over the next 5 years so that's maybe a reasonable lifespan. If price is a big issue, the Panasonic LMD now on offer at £399 (Richer Sounds) was ranked 6th by Which and is pretty good.

12-08-2008, 23:05	#2
PK - the King Forum Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 1,473	The more expensive one is a "Full HD" TV. Means it can take and display a 1080p picture (1920x1080), whereas the cheaper one will only do 1080i (commonly these display an image of 1280x768). Essentially, the more expensive one is better specced.

12-08-2008, 23:19	#3
steveOooo Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: London Posts: 4,470	but 1080p on a 32 tv wont be a massive step up in res than 1080i? or will it?

12-08-2008, 23:32	#4
sancheeez Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,762	1080p and 1080i are the same resolution. Max resolution on the cheaper one: 1366x768 Max resolution on the expensive one: 1920 x 1080 The cheaper one is lower resolution (there are probably other differences but thats the obvious one). It's HD Ready, the more expensive one is Full HD. It'll still take a 1080i signal (which is 1920x1080 - interlaced) but it'll scale it to fit it's lower resolution. On a 32" screen, you'd struggle to see much difference to be honest. Full HD comes into it's own on really big panels. Yes there will be a very slight difference on a smaller panel but not a lot. Enough to warrant another £150? If they are otherwise as good as each other, then not in my book.

12-08-2008, 23:54	#5
skinj Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 3,206	They both take a 1080p signal. The lxd is not a 1920x1080 screen and has to downscale the image. The lzd is a 1920x1080 screen and so displays the image at it's native reolution. At 32" both sets will give superb pictures. The lzd has slightly higher sound quality and a different design.

13-08-2008, 10:28	#6
sancheeez Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,762	Quote: Originally Posted by skinj They both take a 1080p signal. Not so sure about that. Full spec for the TX32LXD85 (the cheaper one) is listed here: http://www.hispek.com/P/Panasonic-TX...X32LXD85).aspx ... and it mentions: Compatible Signal Formats 480p/720p/1080i

13-08-2008, 10:46	#7
steveOooo Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: London Posts: 4,470	think he may of ment if you feed it a 1080p signal, it just downscales its lower resolution and has it as 1080i - something like that! but i think as stated before, cos its 32', there wont be a big difference between 1080i vs full hd

13-08-2008, 11:01	#8
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by steveOooo think he may of ment if you feed it a 1080p signal, it just downscales its lower resolution and has it as 1080i - something like that! but i think as stated before, cos its 32', there wont be a big difference between 1080i vs full hd 1080i is Full HD - the resolution of 1080i and 1080P is exactly the same - the only difference is that 1080P50 (if used) gives 50 pictures per second, whereas 1080i50 and 1080P25 give 25 pictures per second. The advantage is that 1080P50 will give slightly better results on fast moving action - but it's no higher resolution.

14-08-2008, 22:39	#10
skinj Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 3,206	Quote: Originally Posted by sancheeez Not so sure about that. Full spec for the TX32LXD85 (the cheaper one) is listed here: http://www.hispek.com/P/Panasonic-TX...X32LXD85).aspx ... and it mentions: Compatible Signal Formats 480p/720p/1080i Of course you could quote the actual spec from here! TX32LXD80 http://tda.panasonic-europe-service....QB0E0553-1.pdf on Page 50 or TX32LXD85 http://tda.panasonic-europe-service..../TQB0E0566.pdf on page 50

14-08-2008, 23:13	#11
sancheeez Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,762	Fair do's.

15-08-2008, 12:49	#12
skinj Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 3,206	Quote: Originally Posted by sancheeez Fair do's. Never trust anyone on spec's but the Manufacturer!

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