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Old 13-08-2008, 00:05
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Hi every body at the end of this month wen i get payed im geting a new HDTV to replace my Samsung 32" LE32R87BDX/XEU HD Ready Freeview Widescreen LCD TV cos its faulty and samsung wont do any thing about it

im looking for a tv that has:

32 size screen

Widescreen

nice resolution

nice HD up scale

and one that go to 1080P

one thats better than the LE32R87BDX/XEU

and one thats not a samsung

3 HDMI ports or more wad be good

2 SCART ports

one thats good for gaming

one with nice sound

my budget is about £700

i was thinking of one of the ones:



http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/re...32in-LCD-TV/p1

http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/re...32in-LCD-TV/p1
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Old 13-08-2008, 02:24
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or this one

http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/re...32in-LCD-TV/p1
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Old 13-08-2008, 04:35
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Excuse me replying at an unearthly hour but some horrible insect has bitten me and I am up treating the bite with antihistamine cream. Anyway, back to TVs.
You need to go somewhere like John Lewis and compare the pictures side by side. Also listen to the sound quality side by side.
We went for the TX-32LZD85. Watching 'Land of the Jaguar' in HD convinced us that we made the right choice both in terms of picture quality and sound.
I hope this helps.
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Old 13-08-2008, 11:01
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saw a toshiba 32' tv on amazon for £360ish - but had a delay of 1month! toshiba are a good brand to go for aswell as pany.
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Old 13-08-2008, 11:11
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saw a toshiba 32' tv on amazon for £360ish - but had a delay of 1month! toshiba are a good brand to go for aswell as pany.
Except Toshiba buy many of their sets from either Vestel or Beko, but they are usually the smaller ones - as far as I'm aware, 32 or over 'should' be Toshiba.
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Old 13-08-2008, 13:40
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Hi if any body has a TX-32LZD85 can thay post sum pics plezs or email them to me so i can work out if i have room for it? Thanks
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Old 13-08-2008, 13:54
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Not quite sure how a photo of a TV is going to tell you if you have room for it or not?

But .... if you want some useful information along those lines, the dimensions of the set are listed on here:

http://www.pixmania.co.uk/uk/uk/1401...tml#tech-specs

(They're 831 x 538 x 103 mm if you want to save a few seconds)
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Old 13-08-2008, 14:51
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Not quite sure how a photo of a TV is going to tell you if you have room for it or not?

But .... if you want some useful information along those lines, the dimensions of the set are listed on here:

http://www.pixmania.co.uk/uk/uk/1401...tml#tech-specs

(They're 831 x 538 x 103 mm if you want to save a few seconds)
im better at working it out by a pic of it set up how much Wider is it from the LE32R87BDX/XEU ?
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Old 15-08-2008, 15:29
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Go for Sony if you are prepared to pay a little extra. I have a 40 incher Bravia, its lovely
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Old 15-08-2008, 18:15
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Hi if any body has a TX-32LZD85 can thay post sum pics plezs or email them to me so i can work out if i have room for it? Thanks
No I don't but I do have its great grandfather and my Dad has its grandfather (or maybe that is great uncle). My personal experience of Panasonic over many years is that I would not hesitate to go there again. Assuming the size proves to be okay I would go for it

That said, I would equally recommend Sony, maybe at a higher price point.
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Old 15-08-2008, 18:25
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Sony KDL32P3000 reduced to £398.90 from

http://www.martindawes.net/ProductDe...x?pid=K32P3000
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Old 16-08-2008, 18:34
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That tv is not full HD, it is only 720 lines with progressive scanning (720p)

I bought this for €899 which is 1080 lines with progressive scanning (1080p)
http://www.pricerunner.co.uk/pl/2-10...Compare-Prices
It hasn't arrived yet. So I cannot comment on the picture quality for now.
But from the spec it has full HD and 55000 contrast ratio. This is the best contrast ratio of all the Full HD 32 inch TVs on the market now.
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Old 16-08-2008, 18:47
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That tv is not full HD, it is only 720 lines with progressive scanning (720p)
It's NOT 720P, it's HD Ready and 768 pixels, like almost all HD Ready sets - very few have ever been 720 pixels.


But from the spec it has full HD and 55000 contrast ratio. This is the best contrast ratio of all the Full HD 32 inch TVs on the market now.
Ignore contrast specifications, there's no common method of measuring it, so you can't compare the values at all.

But any decent LCD will have a good contrast ratio.
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Old 16-08-2008, 21:17
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It's NOT 720P, it's HD Ready and 768 pixels, like almost all HD Ready sets - very few have ever been 720 pixels.
I said 720 LINES. One line has 1366 pixels.
1366x768 is around 720 visible lines x 1366 pixels with progressive scanning. Not full HD.

Ignore contrast specifications, there's no common method of measuring it, so you can't compare the values at all.
But any decent LCD will have a good contrast ratio..
Contrast ratio is a measurement of gradation and detail when the screen switches between dimmer and brighter scenes. The higher the contrast ratio, the better/quicker the backlights are at dimming/brightening at the correct moments.
It can be accurately measured. It can be seen. Compare a Bush LCD to a Sony LCD and you will see contrast ratio in all its glory.
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Old 17-08-2008, 01:47
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I have a Sony 32D3000 and the picture seems fine to me!
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Old 17-08-2008, 08:13
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I said 720 LINES. One line has 1366 pixels.
1366x768 is around 720 visible lines x 1366 pixels with progressive scanning. Not full HD.
LCD's don't have 'lines' they have pixels vertically and horizontally.

A 768 pixel set also doesn't have 'around 720 pixels visible', it has 768 pixels visible - I know it's not Full HD (and said so before), it's HD Ready - but it's NOT a 720 pixel set, those are a few older sets and quite rare.


Contrast ratio is a measurement of gradation and detail when the screen switches between dimmer and brighter scenes. The higher the contrast ratio, the better/quicker the backlights are at dimming/brightening at the correct moments.
It can be accurately measured. It can be seen. Compare a Bush LCD to a Sony LCD and you will see contrast ratio in all its glory.
I know exactly what contrast ratio is, BUT there's no standard system of measuring it, so you can't compare the figures. Many makes took a huge leap last year in contrast ratios, this wasn't due to screen improvements, but to measuring in a totally different way.

You would imagine that 30,000:1 would be better than 10,000:1, but this might not be so, it might be completely the opposite. The only way is to go and check both pictures yourself.
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Old 17-08-2008, 11:48
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Go for Sony if you are prepared to pay a little extra. I have a 40 incher Bravia, its lovely
Me too!
got a Sony KDL-40W4000U set and its picture performance is fab
Theres also a 32incher version of this set as well if thats the size you're looking for

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Sony-KDL40W4000/
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Old 17-08-2008, 15:56
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I'm not going to spend the next 10 posts splitting hairs with Nigel. The bottom line is Sony KDL32P3000 is not full HD.

By the way GOD_OF_GAMES, my Philips 32PFL9603D Full HD TV
arrived yesterday afternoon.
http://www.pricerunner.co.uk/pl/2-10...Compare-Prices
I hooked it up to my PS3 and played the Blu-Ray movie "Gangs Of New York".
In terms of sound/picture quality, sharpness and contrast is was an unbelievable experience. I would recommend this tv as I could not see any negative points, which is rare for me.
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Old 17-08-2008, 16:06
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I'm not going to spend the next 10 posts splitting hairs with Nigel. The bottom line is Sony KDL32P3000 is not full HD.
I know, I've said that all the time - it was you you was incorrectly specifying the screen size.
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Old 17-08-2008, 16:31
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High Definition Ready.

Intergrated digital freeview.

42 (106.7cm) Widescreen TV with 105.7cm Visible screen size.

Resolution 1024 x 768 Pixels.

Contrast Ratio 10,000:1

Progressive scan.

are these good plasma specs?
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Old 17-08-2008, 17:16
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High Definition Ready.

Intergrated digital freeview.

42 (106.7cm) Widescreen TV with 105.7cm Visible screen size.

Resolution 1024 x 768 Pixels.

Contrast Ratio 10,000:1

Progressive scan.

are these good plasma specs?
HD Ready only, not full but doesn't matter too much. Pretty standard specs with what you have stated.

How many HDMI inputs and what make/model is it?
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Old 17-08-2008, 18:42
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I know, I've said that all the time - it was you you was incorrectly specifying the screen size.
10000 was right though. 720p doesn't mean 720 pixels - you could never show much with only 720 pixels. 720p means 720 line, progressive scan.
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Old 17-08-2008, 19:22
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10000 was right though. 720p doesn't mean 720 pixels - you could never show much with only 720 pixels. 720p means 720 line, progressive scan.
Like I said above, LCD's (and Plasma's) don't have lines (only CRT's do), they have pixels - and the set in question has 768 pixels vertically. There's also no scanning on them either, so Progressive or Interlaced doesn't apply - it's actually neither - each picture appears instantly (as near as makes no odds - for an LCD, a Plasma operates differently), all at the same time.
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Old 17-08-2008, 20:40
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Like I said above, LCD's (and Plasma's) don't have lines (only CRT's do), they have pixels - and the set in question has 768 pixels vertically. There's also no scanning on them either, so Progressive or Interlaced doesn't apply - it's actually neither - each picture appears instantly (as near as makes no odds - for an LCD, a Plasma operates differently), all at the same time.
You got me thinking here Nigel (there is a first time for everything!)

So if LCDs don't scan (which I understand) that means the difference say, between 1080p and 1080i for example is only the way they are driven. So I assume then the difference between an HD ready and a full HD LCD is its ability to accept the input - something like the internal clock rate?
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Old 17-08-2008, 21:02
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All LCDs TVs have Progressive displays by their nature regardless of the source.
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