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EE: question bugging me regarding John Bardon (Jim)?
Now dont get me wrong, the poor man had a stroke, and I like John Bardon as much as the next person, and my heart really does go out to him and his family.
however, even though strokes can leave people with speech problems when they talk, did anyone feel that John was putting it on a bit for the character? I realise his speech probably wasn't great anyway, but I felt he was "over-doing it" for the character, making his speech worse than it really is. |
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That never even crossed my mind. I believe that is what he is like in real life.
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It's really sad that he suffered a 2nd stroke.
I would imagine it's bad enough having 1, but 2......... |
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Nope i dont believe he was.
Some stroke victims get very agitated if they cannot say or express how they are feeling hence why at one stage jim was shouting. its very frustrating for someone not to be able to be understood or get accross their point i know some sufferers who never regain their speech and im sure he will be getting some input from the speech therapist. Some poor souls cannot talk at all and just spend their time shouting in the hope someone can understand what they are trying to say/do |
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Now dont get me wrong, the poor man had a stroke, and I like John Bardon as much as the next person, and my heart really does go out to him and his family.
however, even though strokes can leave people with speech problems when they talk, did anyone feel that John was putting it on a bit for the character? I realise his speech probably wasn't great anyway, but I felt he was "over-doing it" for the character, making his speech worse than it really is. |
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Nope i dont believe he was.
Some stroke victims get very agitated if they cannot say or express how they are feeling hence why at one stage jim was shouting. its very frustrating for someone not to be able to be understood or get accross their point i know some sufferers who never regain their speech and im sure he will be getting some input from the speech therapist. Some poor souls cannot talk at all and just spend their time shouting in the hope someone can understand what they are trying to say/do |
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No don't believe he was 'over doing it' either.
Al depends on the stroke as to how speech/actions are affected. Just sad he won't be back
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It has been a few months since his stroke so i dont know what the recovery of speech progress is and my mate who is a speech therapist is on hols or id ask her. Depends obv on the severity of the stroke whether it was a right or left hand side etc etc.
It would be an idea though you could make out some of what he was saying so he could well make more progress |
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NO! - he didn't need to put it on! What a weird thing to ask
John is such a great actor, that you just cant tell if he was "adding it" to the character. |
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No don't believe he was 'over doing it' either.
Al depends on the stroke as to how speech/actions are affected. Just sad he won't be back ![]() it is very said indeed |
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Why is it a weird thing to ask?
John is such a great actor, that you just cant tell if he was "adding it" to the character. i dont think john was adding to it i think he played jims stroke as his own so no acting was really done if that makes sense at all |
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i dont think john was adding to it i think he played jims stroke as his own so no acting was really done if that makes sense at all
![]() Its made me think about donating to a stroke charity. |
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i agree it made me very emotional because I knew John had gone through this and it wasnt just an actor playing a part it was for real
shed a tear over the course of the episode. |
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Why is it a weird thing to ask?
John is such a great actor, that you just cant tell if he was "adding it" to the character. |
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Even though there was obviously a script, I thought that sometimes June was helping John out by translating what he had said. They are great friends in real life and she stays with John and his wife one night a week so would be used to the way he now speaks. It was such a sad but powerful episode.
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I am sure all concerned are looking after him and wont let him over stretch himself
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It's really sad that he suffered a 2nd stroke.
I would imagine it's bad enough having 1, but 2......... Quote:
No don't believe he was 'over doing it' either.
Al depends on the stroke as to how speech/actions are affected. Just sad he won't be back ![]() |
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Nope i dont believe he was.
Some stroke victims get very agitated if they cannot say or express how they are feeling hence why at one stage jim was shouting. its very frustrating for someone not to be able to be understood or get accross their point i know some sufferers who never regain their speech and im sure he will be getting some input from the speech therapist. Some poor souls cannot talk at all and just spend their time shouting in the hope someone can understand what they are trying to say/do The one thing John has is a very expressive face. You could see that Jim was still in there somewhere. Parts of it were acted. Other parts felt very close to home for him. But that just added to the specialness of the episode. It was a remarkable episode.
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I was wondering...can he not write things down? Would be a whole lot easier for him. But they do say it's good for stroke victims to try to talk so I guess they more they do it the better.
The one thing John has is a very expressive face. You could see that Jim was still in there somewhere. Parts of it were acted. Other parts felt very close to home for him. But that just added to the specialness of the episode. It was a remarkable episode. ![]() It all depends on the stroke type as different strokes affect different parts of the body. some stroke victims are paralysed down one side. others their speech and motor skills are affected like john |
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It did look like one of his hands/arms had been affected by the stroke. It was limp.
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I was wondering...can he not write things down? Would be a whole lot easier for him. But they do say it's good for stroke victims to try to talk so I guess they more they do it the better.
The one thing John has is a very expressive face. You could see that Jim was still in there somewhere. Parts of it were acted. Other parts felt very close to home for him. But that just added to the specialness of the episode. It was a remarkable episode. ![]() as indigo has said his wife has commented in interviews several times that hes struggling with his speech so to me that was real no acting |
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After reading what his wife to say about his speech I was surprised to see him talk on screen at all - very pleasantly surprised. I thought he did very well and was certainly not acting to appear worse than it actually was.
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I dont believe it was put on at all
Even before he had the second stroke i think the episode showed why he will not be able to make a full time return but id like to see him make occasional cameo apperances |
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I wasnt really talking about his whole acting im was more referring to his speech and his walking etc etc i know jim was in there we could see it coming through what i meant was he wasnt adding to his acting of a stroke victim cos he didnt have too
as indigo has said his wife has commented in interviews several times that hes struggling with his speech so to me that was real no acting |
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He hasn't had a second stroke.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-20690330/ |
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