Hi,

Appologies for reposting this here again, I had posted this in the Broadband section, but have not recieved a reply yet.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...2#post26611562

Here goes...

Hi,

We have two sockets, which were installed 30 years ago by BT.

We would like to install additional sockets. I am sure I can do this install myself, all I need to know is how to install the extra sockets.

Our current setup is as follows:

The Master Socket is upstairs in front bedroom and the socket which runs off this, Slave Socket is in the front reception room downstairs, which has a telephone connected to it.

There is a extension cord running from the master socket to my room, which has the Router and Telephone connected to it.

As we are doing a major refurb, I was wondering if I could, if possible to install four more sockets.

Ultimately I would end up with the following setup.

One Master socket in upstairs front bedroom.
(corded telephone connected)

One Socket in the upstairs back bedroom.
(would have the router/telephone connected)

Two sockets in the downstairs front reception.
(cordless telephone and skyplus box connected)

Two sockets in the living room.
(would have skyplus box connect, leaving one spare)

Is this setup possible?

Would I have any problems, if so, what would they be?

Lastly, how do I actually wire the sockets, I can buy some wire and sockets from wickes, but is there a diagram or a guide which somebody could point me to, where this is explained in detail.

Looking foward to your replies.

Thanks

The number of sockets doesn't matter, it's how many phones and other equipment you actually have plugged in. Each phone will have a ringing equivalence number (REN) which is usually found on a sticker. You can't exceed 4. As for the wiring each socket has 6 terminals, the line goes on 2 and 5 and the ringing circuit on 3. Just make sure you use the same colour each end

so are you after help as to how you physically do it???

usually the master socket has a plate that can be removed, (and a bit you're not allowed to remove) inside it there's a a connector that consists of 4 sort of metal blades. these are what you insert the wires into using the BT insertion tool.

there's nothing clever about the wiring, so long as all correct colours are joined together....

If the installation is 30 years old it's not likely that you have an NTE5 linebox.

If you go ahead I'd recommend getting BT to update your 30year old boxes first.

Here's some useful sites >>>

http://www.telephonesuk.co.uk/wiring_info.htm

http://www.readman.dsl.pipex.com/oth...ecatwiring.htm

Thank you for this.

Would I be right in saying that with two sky boxes connected, two phones and a router, I should not have any problems with the REN? Or would I need to loose a phone?

Thanks again.

BT are quoting me £160 to replace just one box. The way I see it, everything is working fine, so no need to pay them? or is there a need?

From how you describe your current extension set-up, if you do not have an NTE5 linebox then you can't do what you want to do.

Taken from the readman site >>

"You must NOT replace or move any of BT’s property; this includes but is not limited to the following;

The Drop cable – The cable that come’s from outside to the inside.
A junction box – If it is before the BT master socket.
Cable before the BT master socket.
Cable after the BT master socket (if BT holds ownership)"

You should be ok, to be honest there were no such things as Sky boxes when I was a BT engineer! So far as I know the Sky box has a REN of 0.5 but if you find your phones don't ring properly you can get a booster

Today with wireless routers and brilliant quality cordless phones, does anyone need to wire extensions?

Presumably the OP does or he wouldn't have asked the question
Last edited by bob fossil : 14-08-2008 at 20:29

Thanks for the heads up. but...

From what I understand, as I am not touching the LJU2 Master Socket at all, should there be a problem?

I wish to add a mininum of two additional sockets to the current two which we already have. If possible Four.

The last time we had a fault, the BT engineer told us that anything after the master socket is ours and that they are only concerned with whats between the master socket and the pole in the road.

As we already have a secondary socket comming off from the master socket upstairs, would it not be logical that I could add another, let say 2-4 more?

Would I still need to call a BT engineer out?

I might give them another call.