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Rachel..brilliant.
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magnificent
16-08-2008
Originally Posted by Tigerpaws:
“Although it is difficult it is possible as long as you declare your criminal record they can then make a decision based on that however they can also refuse entry most countries are the same.”

...its a compulsory declaration. The US authorities dont mess. I think once its drugs related its a red card.
Tigerpaws
16-08-2008
Originally Posted by magnificent:
“...its a compulsory declaration. The US authorities dont mess. I think once its drugs related its a red card.”

Nope you can appeal it. Paul Mc still gets into the US and he was caught at an airport with cannabis.

They can put people on a restricted visa as well.
magnificent
16-08-2008
Originally Posted by Tigerpaws:
“Nope you can appeal it. Paul Mc still gets into the US and he was caught at an airport with cannabis.

They can put people on a restricted visa as well.”

......but not convicted and jailed for it. But who knows...with Simons influence I'm sure he could wangle something for her if needs be.
XxLiannexX
16-08-2008
Well apparently shes through to the judges house
Tigerpaws
16-08-2008
Originally Posted by magnificent:
“......but not convicted and jailed for it. But who knows...with Simons influence I'm sure he could wangle something for her if needs be.”

Mick Jagger was though and he has no probs. Don't think he was jailed though.
magnificent
16-08-2008
hmm? Rachel Hylton......Javine Hylton....wonder if they're distantly related........
Felcro
16-08-2008
Originally Posted by Compton_scatter:
“Plus winning would get her off benefits...we're all winners then!”

And you know she is on benefits how?

There but for the grace of god go I
ZipGypsy
16-08-2008
Originally Posted by Felcro:
“And you know she is on benefits how?

There but for the grace of god go I”

Well said, Felcro.
DimSum
16-08-2008
Not another Rachel.It's the third Rachel on shows which I like to watch.First it was on I'd Do Anything,then on Big Brother and now on the X Factor.First two I've been supporting,but this Rachel I'm not so sure.I didn't like the fact that she took drugs and had a baby at 13.
XxLiannexX
16-08-2008
Don't be so judgmental...Some people just go the bad path...She wants to change her life...Give her a chance her voice is spectacular and she's got a good personality...
DimSum
17-08-2008
Originally Posted by Im_That_Girl:
“Don't be so judgmental...Some people just go the bad path...She wants to change her life...Give her a chance her voice is spectacular and she's got a good personality...”

Well I suppose if Cheryl Cole gave her hubby a second chance,then Rachel derserves one.
XxLiannexX
17-08-2008
Watch her again on youtube...Shes wicked....
maroonshark
17-08-2008
Originally Posted by Sib69:
“i like the fact she imitated cheryl in the video for heartbreaker""

she was brilliant though”

I thought that was cute.
XxLiannexX
17-08-2008
LOL I thought it was funny...She made me laugh when she was like I know you simonnnnn lol
maroonshark
17-08-2008
Originally Posted by DimSum:
“Well I suppose if Cheryl Cole gave her hubby a second chance,then Rachel derserves one.”

I think she deserves a chance, after all she was possibly only 12 years old when she conceived her first child.

She was a child herself, if she had no support at that age, it does indicate she probably did not have the right support, which possibly took her down the wrong path.
Irishguy123
17-08-2008
I definately agree with you when you say potential top twelve contestant, but I have to see more of her first. We've all seen before people have brilliant auditions and then it all goes wrong....
Nox_1
17-08-2008
I thought she was unique and has an unforgettable voice. I don't know how to describe what makes her different from someone like for instance Nick, the ex popstars guy. Nick sang the notes in the right order and they were in tune but that's as far as it went. Rachel did the same thing on the surface but made music with her voice.

Youtubing to hear it again, I came across this http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=q6FfbcCWi-E
Eternal Life
17-08-2008
She was impressive, I liked the sound of her voice.
maroonshark
17-08-2008
I don't usually back anyone straight away on XFactor, but Rachel has just blown me away, with her singing & attitude.

You just know she will go far. Like she said, now people will see she is somebody.
utoia2007
17-08-2008
Originally Posted by Nox_1:
“I thought she was unique and has an unforgettable voice. I don't know how to describe what makes her different from someone like for instance Nick, the ex popstars guy. Nick sang the notes in the right order and they were in tune but that's as far as it went. Rachel did the same thing on the surface but made music with her voice.

Youtubing to hear it again, I came across this http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=q6FfbcCWi-E”

OMG thats amazing!
sounds like a actual recording.
lea27
17-08-2008
Was a bit like watching Stars in the eyes! Couldnt tell if she can sing anything else than Amy covers and was waiting for the judges to say 'can you sing something else' just to see what she really sounded like. When she first started Simon was pulling faces I thought as if he wasnt really impressed so was surprised when she was given such high praise.

Also didnt like how Simon said she was a breath of fresh air, oh please, all over the country you will find recovering addicts etc. that want to turn their lives around by doing something positive like sing so realy she is not quite one in a million rather one in 20. Just shows what a sheltered life the judges leave away from the real world.
flowerlady
17-08-2008
I actually thought that Rachel sounded better than Amy Winehouse!!!!!!! Definately a contender for the finals.
Georgiecats
17-08-2008
I didn't think she was that special - good yes but I hope she's not getting through because she has a big sob story.

But looks like her friends and family might be out in force already in this forum making sure we know her name!

I'll reserve my opinion until we've seen more of the runners and riders.
nathanbrazil
17-08-2008
Originally Posted by maroonshark:
“I think she deserves a chance, after all she was possibly only 12 years old when she conceived her first child.”

Okay, fair enough, anyone can make an error of judgement. But, this girl has apparently had five kids! Plus, a criminal record bad enough to get her a custodial sentence. Does this not spell danger, and an addictive personality? What happens when such people get to make lots of cash and have a celebrity lifestyle... it all goes up their nose.
Tigerpaws
17-08-2008
Originally Posted by nathanbrazil:
“Okay, fair enough, anyone can make an error of judgement. But, this girl has apparently had five kids! Plus, a criminal record bad enough to get her a custodial sentence. Does this not spell danger, and an addictive personality? What happens when such people get to make lots of cash and have a celebrity lifestyle... it all goes up their nose.”

Oh so she should be denied success because of drug use in her past.
Btw there is no such thing as an addictive personality its a myth everyone has addictions just some are worse for you than others.
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