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Old 17-08-2008, 11:50
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On the 1st September, VM are increasing some of their call charges.

The main ones are that all calls to international numbers will go up by 5 pence per minute if you don't have Talk International.

0845 numbers will cost 7ppm at all times which compares with BT's 2ppm from 6am to 6pm or 0.5ppm from 6pm to 6am.

0870 numbers will cost 10ppm at all times. BT charge 6ppm from 6am to 6pm and 1.5ppm from 6pm to 6am.

Further details are here: http://www.virginmedia.com/customers/calling-costs.php
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Old 17-08-2008, 11:53
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VM's call charges have always been an outrageous rip-off, but those increases are just ridiculous.
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Old 17-08-2008, 12:00
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I use this website to check for alternative numbers for 08 etc.

Depends on your package but if you're on something like XLN with free landline calls etc its worth checking. I've saved a fortune by just using their numbers for my bank, sky etc. Nothing to lose by checking.

http://www.saynoto0870.com/search.php
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Old 17-08-2008, 13:25
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That's ridiculous I think once my contract is up in December with Virgin Media I will cancel broadband and phone and go with BT and maybe O2 Broadband.
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Old 17-08-2008, 13:29
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I'm sick of companies changing their phone no from an ordinary no to an 0845 or 0870 no.
If someone gives me such a no to ring I tell them I only phone regular phone no's.
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Old 17-08-2008, 18:58
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Try www.call18866.co.uk at least for 0845 and national numbers. It seems 0870 are extortionate everywhere.

Not as cheap as when with BT, but cheaper than Virgin.

On the 1st September, VM are increasing some of their call charges.

The main ones are that all calls to international numbers will go up by 5 pence per minute if you don't have Talk International.

0845 numbers will cost 7ppm at all times which compares with BT's 2ppm from 6am to 6pm or 0.5ppm from 6pm to 6am.

0870 numbers will cost 10ppm at all times. BT charge 6ppm from 6am to 6pm and 1.5ppm from 6pm to 6am.

Further details are here: http://www.virginmedia.com/customers/calling-costs.php
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Old 17-08-2008, 19:11
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Try www.call18866.co.uk at least for 0845 and national numbers. It seems 0870 are extortionate everywhere.

Not as cheap as when with BT, but cheaper than Virgin.
I've just left Sky Talk because of this, my calls this month to 0845/0870 no's totalled over 9.00!
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Old 18-08-2008, 14:17
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That's ridiculous I think once my contract is up in December with Virgin Media I will cancel broadband and phone and go with BT and maybe O2 Broadband.
Talk like that will get you a tempting retention deal...
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Old 18-08-2008, 14:23
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I've just left Sky Talk because of this, my calls this month to 0845/0870 no's totalled over 9.00!
As mentioned above:

http://www.saynoto0870.com/search.php

will find alternatives for many 08 numbers. Including 0800 ones which are not free from mobiles. (While on that subject, 02380 030800 is a landline number "gateway" for 0800 mobile calls).
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Old 18-08-2008, 19:27
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From 16th Sept some of BT's charges are going up though not their 0845/0870 numbers....

http://www.productsandservices.bt.co..._popupid=23771
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Old 18-08-2008, 19:43
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I'm sure lots of people have ditched their BT landline and use mobiles and mobile BB or cable.

I'm glad BT are losing customers I've never really been happy with their services or attitude.
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Old 18-08-2008, 21:28
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I'm sure lots of people have ditched their BT landline and use mobiles and mobile BB or cable.

I'm glad BT are losing customers I've never really been happy with their services or attitude.
Yes, people may have ditched their landline, however that just means they are spending even more in call costs.

Yes, you may get so many minutes, but you have to pay silly money for them, they 99.8% of the time don't include 084 and 087 numbers and calls to those numbers are a lot higher than from landlines - not all numbers are listed on SayNoTo0870.

So people complain about spending 10 plus a few on calls from the landline, yet think nothing of then paying 35+ on a mobile for less of a service and then dearer other calls.
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Old 18-08-2008, 22:07
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From 16th Sept some of BT's charges are going up though not their 0845/0870 numbers....

http://www.productsandservices.bt.co..._popupid=23771
Just saw this and think the charge for pressing 3 on 1471 of 10p is ridiculous! Do you get charged for doing that on Virgin Phone?
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Old 18-08-2008, 22:08
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Not as far as I know, but then I use www.18185.co.uk
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Old 18-08-2008, 22:16
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Just saw this and think the charge for pressing 3 on 1471 of 10p is ridiculous! Do you get charged for doing that on Virgin Phone?
No, that's one of the charges VM haven't introduced, probably due to not being able to programme the system to charge, not through not wanting to charge.
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Old 18-08-2008, 22:22
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No, that's one of the charges VM haven't introduced, probably due to not being able to programme the system to charge, not through not wanting to charge.
Hardly difficult for customers to circumvent though is it? All it requires is to write down the number of the last caller and then dial direct. An awful lot of people withold their number anyway.
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Old 18-08-2008, 22:26
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Hardly difficult for customers to circumvent though is it? All it requires is to write down the number of the last caller and then dial direct. An awful lot of people withhold their number anyway.
Yeah.

Though with caller display phones you don't even need to write it down, you just go through the list of received calls and press to call the number. Most calls are from known numbers, so you can just call them up from the phone book in the phone.

Maybe an awful lot of people do withhold their number, however we rarely get withhold numbers, less than 1%.
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Old 25-08-2008, 18:10
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Originally Posted by carl.waring
Not as far as I know, but then I use www.18185.co.uk
I guess thats using an 0844 number?
Where can i find VM charges for these numbers and whether there going up as well.

I called my mate on a Thailand landline, we talked for just over an hour and the bill was 58
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Old 25-08-2008, 18:46
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Use this for international calls 1p to Thailand
http://www.telesavers.co.uk/
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Old 25-08-2008, 19:12
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www.18185.co.uk
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Old 25-08-2008, 22:48
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I guess thats using an 0844 number?
Nope; 0800. (It's 0808 1 703 703 if you want to know )
http://www.18185.co.uk/mobilerates.php
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Old 26-08-2008, 00:22
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Use this for international calls 1p to Thailand
http://www.telesavers.co.uk/
18185 is better.

Same 1p rate, however you don't get charged unless you connect to either the callee or voicemail / answer-phone.

With the 0844 numbers you are paying as soon as you hit their announcement and whilst you are then dialling the destination and then listening to the ringing tone or engaged tone, try several times whilst they are engaged and it soon mounts up.
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Old 26-08-2008, 09:11
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I ring 0870 numbers on my mobile when saynoto0870 doesn't have an equivalent, it's still cheaper than calling on my Virgin home phone. If it's non-urgent then I use e-mail.
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Old 26-08-2008, 09:27
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I have always used First Telecom as they provide you with a free router to automatically send the calls via them without the need to dial an access number first. Never had any problems
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Old 26-08-2008, 10:47
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Worth looking at First Telecom's Cable Saver if you pay per call. A three minute 01 / 02 call via their network is around 6p, a similar three minute call via VM is around 18p. The call quality is much the same.

http://www.firsttelecom.com/resident...monthly-CS.htm
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