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Old 17-09-2008, 20:54
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Oh we have this problem all the time, I often visit the bins with a skipping rope and I whip them all away either that or a big stick. They will soon learn its not a safe place to be.
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Old 17-09-2008, 21:06
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Oh we have this problem all the time, I often visit the bins with a skipping rope and I whip them all away either that or a big stick. They will soon learn its not a safe place to be.
Does it work? We have an old skipping rope outside that I can use.
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Old 17-09-2008, 22:08
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Does it work? We have an old skipping rope outside that I can use.
It spooks the living daylights out of them. Make sure you scream at them as you are thrashing the rope.
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Old 17-09-2008, 22:39
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It spooks the living daylights out of them. Make sure you scream at them as you are thrashing the rope.


That image made me laugh
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Old 17-09-2008, 23:17
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Sorry to hear that. It sounds like a nightmare. Was chatting to my mate today and he has a similar problem when he stays. Thankfully I am one floor up with no access other than the inside stairs but in his house he has outside stairs leading up to his kitchen door. He left the door open briefly as he had been cooking a chicken. He went to the livingroom to see that his kid was ok and came back to find that cat had come in the door and was licking his chicken. I dont think the cat touched the stairs on its free lift out the door. They are bloody pests. I hope the RSPCA can help.
Aye, we've had them coming in the house too. They used to come in the kitchen and pee everywhere. On the floor, on top of the microwave, in my shoes. One of them even had a go of a slice of vegetarian fake bacon once!

It is so irritating that there is nothing to be done. If it were a dog, rat, mouse even wasp you can get it sorted but cats seem to be able to just do what they want and the owners don't seem to need to look after them very much.

We should start a petition!!
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Old 18-09-2008, 01:00
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I'm sorry, each to their own and all that, but how can you live like that? Animals on the pillows...how can you lay your head where a cat's arse has been?
I'm glad someone else noticed this, I thought I was the weird one for thinking that this was sick. I felt like vomiting, the thought of those horrible things in your bed. Disgustin, they have dead mice in their mouths, and this person lets them lie on top of them and in their bed.

To OP, have same prob as you, i live in a townhouse with a tiny tiled patio as a garden which just fits 2 bins in it, this horrible black fat cat was sitting on the bin this mornin. Shaking walking past it. Hate the things, gonna use water for tomorrow. Its quite sad as I'm actually afraid to go out now in case its sitting outside my door again
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Old 18-09-2008, 09:49
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Tell you what, you step outside your rude bubble and I will have rational discussion with you. Rational starting from the point that on every single level that we are superior to cats.
So you can run at over 30mph can you? You have hearing to 64000 Hz do you? If you fell from a high place you have a 'righting reflex' to ensure you land safely? You can jump 7 or 8 feet off the floor? You can hunt small animals in the dead of night with nothing bu your natural abilities?

Humans are not automatically superior to any other species. It depends on what criteria we use. You have delusions of grandeur. Humans are just another animal - our quirky way of evolving - with shops and economies and work and banks and restaurants and cars and clothes are all irrlevant to the Natural World. So they are not really valid for claiming superiority over other animals.

You say that humans are superior to cats on every level, which is absurd, and you have yet to provide evidence.
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Old 18-09-2008, 10:44
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After four days on the trot of having to pick cat poo up out of my garden, I was on the verge of getting one of those sonic gadget things. Then I had a weird moment and decided to put some curry powder down on the bits of garden where the cat kept going. It's been a month and, so far, the garden's been blessedly poo free...
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Old 18-09-2008, 10:52
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I'm glad someone else noticed this, I thought I was the weird one for thinking that this was sick. I felt like vomiting, the thought of those horrible things in your bed. Disgustin, they have dead mice in their mouths, and this person lets them lie on top of them and in their bed.
To OP, have same prob as you, i live in a townhouse with a tiny tiled patio as a garden which just fits 2 bins in it, this horrible black fat cat was sitting on the bin this mornin. Shaking walking past it. Hate the things, gonna use water for tomorrow. Its quite sad as I'm actually afraid to go out now in case its sitting outside my door again
Cats tend to lick thier bits after going to the toilet and they have natural antispetic in their saliva so its not as "disgusting" as some people think....

Not that I encourage my kitten to jump on the bed after using the litter tray etc... but cats really aren't as filthy as some posters are making out
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Old 18-09-2008, 10:55
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Yes, cats are very clean animals.
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Old 18-09-2008, 11:05
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Cats tend to lick thier bits after going to the toilet and they have natural antispetic in their saliva so its not as "disgusting" as some people think....

Not that I encourage my kitten to jump on the bed after using the litter tray etc... but cats really aren't as filthy as some posters are making out
I sleep with both a cat and a dog in the bed...when I had first had my transplant, my immune system was affected and I picked up every bug and infection I came into contact with, so had to be extreemly careful about what I came into contact with

I asked my consultant if it was still safe for me to sleep with my pets and he said it was perfectly safe, but to "stay away from snotty nosed kids!"

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Old 18-09-2008, 11:18
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I have a neighbour with 10+ cats who all use my back yard as ther toilet. I called the RSPCA the other day who are sending someone out but only cos there have been loads of diahorea style poos for over a month and the cats have sticky eyes. Otherwise, they said they wouldn't send anyone out.

It really gets me down that I have to deal with it. My back yard stinks, there are flys everywhere and when the baby gets here, it's bedroom window looks out on this beautiful view!
don't go near the poo yourself if you are pregnant jeff, runny poo in cats (and dogs) can be a sign of worms- they can be dangerous if you are pregnant.

I am a cat lover and have my own (one on my lap now, another looking jealously down from the windowsill) but I think ping's cat are feral, which means they are more persistant in using a food source. Ammonia in bleach smells like other cat pee (as another poster pointed out earlier) which only encourages them to pee over the "intruder cat pee" which is how they smell the bleach, to mark their territory. The more bleach you put down, the more they pee.

Ping if you think you will live there for the next few years at least you could try contacting one of the cat charities and enquire about a trap, neuter & release programme. they may be able to relocate the colony (doubtful but it does happen)but if they can't you will at least control the population and feral cats tend to only live for 5/6 years. I know its a lot of hassle for a problem thats not your fault but if you want rid long-term and you'll be doing the cats a favour too which will get you excellent karma and/or rewards in heaven and/or satisfaction if you are a humanitarian atheist
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Old 18-09-2008, 11:27
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don't go near the poo yourself if you are pregnant jeff, runny poo in cats (and dogs) can be a sign of worms- they can be dangerous if you are pregnant.
Am staying well away. My husband has been clearing it daily because of the danger to me and t'baby. I had a mad moment a couple of months ago where I got really irritated and scooped up all the poo and threw it over the wall into my neighbours yard but it made me vomit so I don't even go in the back yard anymore.
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Old 18-09-2008, 11:36
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So you can run at over 30mph can you? You have hearing to 64000 Hz do you? If you fell from a high place you have a 'righting reflex' to ensure you land safely? You can jump 7 or 8 feet off the floor? You can hunt small animals in the dead of night with nothing bu your natural abilities?

Humans are not automatically superior to any other species. It depends on what criteria we use. You have delusions of grandeur. Humans are just another animal - our quirky way of evolving - with shops and economies and work and banks and restaurants and cars and clothes are all irrlevant to the Natural World. So they are not really valid for claiming superiority over other animals.

You say that humans are superior to cats on every level, which is absurd, and you have yet to provide evidence.
The crucial point is that where we do have deficits we have the means and technologies to address these. Cats do not. Hence we are superior.
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Old 18-09-2008, 11:38
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Cats tend to lick thier bits after going to the toilet and they have natural antispetic in their saliva so its not as "disgusting" as some people think....

Not that I encourage my kitten to jump on the bed after using the litter tray etc... but cats really aren't as filthy as some posters are making out
It is still rank rotten. They eat all sorts, lick all sorts etc so letting them near your face/ bed makes my stomach heave.
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Old 18-09-2008, 13:52
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It's quite funny reading some peoples views on this. I don't own any pets, but I have always liked cats.

I don't agree with the view that humans are more superior to animals. It's how you perceive it.

I actually think us humans while being very intelligent are rather stupid. There are not many other species who knowingly damage their bodies (eg by smoking), commit suicide or murder for the sake of it and not for survival.
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Old 18-09-2008, 13:58
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It is still rank rotten. They eat all sorts, lick all sorts etc so letting them near your face/ bed makes my stomach heave.
As I say I don't encourage my kitty to leap from litter tray to my pillow (and as she is still young I sometimes have to make sure she "remembers" to clean herself )

But it is true that cats have natural antiseptic in their saliva and once they lick their bums they arses are probably cleaner than ours after having a dump and wiping!!!
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Old 18-09-2008, 18:02
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I have no idea if a cat is more superior to a human but I do believe that my needs as a human are overshadowed by that of a cat and I think it's wrong.

I am all for the humane and decent treatment of animals (wouldn't be veggie if I wasn't!) but I think when it comes to the clash between me and a cat, I'm considered less important and I think it's wrong.

I am expected to put up with the crap (literally!) that comes with people being poor pet owners and can't do anything about it. I know that in the grand scheme of things, a bit of cat poo isn't the end of the world but I don't own a cat for a reason and I don't expect to put up with other peoples pets doing what they want in my garden and house because that person can't be bothered to bring their pet in at night or get a litter tray or a cat flap or whatever.

I know people say that cats can't be kept in which makes me wonder, why bother having one as a pet? If they're so independant and crafty then they shouldn't be pets and people shouldn't be allowed to keep them.

So yeh, I may not be superior to a cat but I think that people should have more rights than they do against them and that they should be considered a pest in a lot of cases. You only have to look on these forums in the average week to see how many people have trouble with cats.
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Old 18-09-2008, 19:25
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I understand where you are coming from Jeff. That is one of the reasons my cats remain inside. Also due to one having a major disability, and the thought of her watching the others outside. And there are 14 cats in 4 houses, not including mine.

I am a responsible owner, there are others who are not.
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Old 18-09-2008, 20:10
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I had some brilliant cat related news when I got home from work.

I'd called the RSPCA on Monday about my neighbours cats and they came out yesterday and took most of them away. He had 15, they've taken 9 away and are taking a further 3 away next week. Hurrah!

My neighbour told my husband all about it, not sure if he knows that it was us who called the RSPCA, but he says he knew he couldn't look after them - why he didn't sort it out himself I don't know.

I'm so happy I don't have to put up with them anymore. It was really getting both me and the husband down.
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