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Old 25-08-2008, 00:39
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Tough competiton for X5 winner?

COMIC Peter Kay and singer Gary Barlow are planning to release a novelty Christmas single.

Good pals Peter and Take That’s Gary have joined forces to rival The X Factor in the hope of scooping the coveted festive No1.

Their song will be based on a character from Peter’s new spoof series lampooning X Factor and other reality shows.
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Think this could possibly be toughest competiton for an X Factor winner yet!
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Old 25-08-2008, 00:45
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They wont be able to compete with the x factor winner, I think Leon sold more than the other nine singles from the Christmas top ten all put together and he was a pretty average winner in my opinion.
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Old 25-08-2008, 00:50
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Judging by Leon's success, I agree - a worthy winner could sell more than the entre Top 40 put together. I don't mind, if I like them.

(editing this bit so as not to sound so OT)

Hope we have a decent winner's single this time round, maybe something more upbeat but still relevant and of course well sung would be nice too

If not, I'd rather see Jordin Sparks get it as I'm a huge fan (with any song!) but I'm intrigued to hear this Barlow/Kay comedy collaboration now

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Old 25-08-2008, 01:01
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Judging by Leon's success, I agree - a worthy winner could sell more than the entre Top 40 put together. I don't mind, if I like them.

(editing this bit so as not to sound so OT)

Hope we have a decent winner's single this time round, maybe something more upbeat but still relevant and of course well sung would be nice too

If not, I'd rather see Jordin Sparks get it as I'm a huge fan (with any song!) but I'm intrigued to hear this Barlow/Kay comedy collaboration now

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Faria I know that you don't like or rate Leon but please explain how he is not a worthy winner - the XF winner is based on the public vote and we all know he won that so how can he not be worthy.
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Old 25-08-2008, 01:10
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I'm sure Leon is the winner the majority of the public voted for so in that sense he is worthy but what I don't see is why. To me he has an average voice and lacks star quality, and obviously his fans disagree but when I said he wasn't worthy I said it as an opinion and not a fact based on what I think makes a worthy winner.
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Old 25-08-2008, 01:16
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I'm sure Leon is the winner the majority of the public voted for so in that sense he is worthy but what I don't see is why. To me he has an average voice and lacks star quality, and obviously his fans disagree but when I said he wasn't worthy I said it as an opinion and not a fact based on what I think makes a worthy winner.
I'm with Faria on this one, I couldn't agree more with the highlighted part, I thought Rhydian had much more "star quality" and leon only won because of his story and progression though the weeks, If my memory serves me correctly he was bloody awful on the very first live show.
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Old 25-08-2008, 01:17
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Sorry guys but can we please not turn this into another "Leon" thread.

Seriously peeved off with people doing this.
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Old 25-08-2008, 01:21
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I'm with Faria on this one, I couldn't agree more with the highlighted part, I thought Rhydian had much more "star quality" and leon only won because of his story and progression though the weeks, If my memory serves me correctly he was bloody awful on the very first live show.
Eight months gone and some people still can't move on.
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Old 25-08-2008, 01:22
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I'm sure Leon is the winner the majority of the public voted for so in that sense he is worthy but what I don't see is why. To me he has an average voice and lacks star quality, and obviously his fans disagree but when I said he wasn't worthy I said it as an opinion and not a fact based on what I think makes a worthy winner.
Thats fair enough everyone is entitled to their opinion about particular contestants I honestly don't have an issue with that it does get a tad annoying when people use the term worthy or deserving simply because that contestant isn't to their taste.
I guess in my opinion all those that make it through to the live shows are deserving winners and whoever gets the most votes is worthy or derserving whether they are my personal fave or not.
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Old 25-08-2008, 01:23
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I don't think anyone sets out to change the topic of the threads it was just a natural progresion from your original post but as I was involved I appologise and i will reiterate my first post that there is not a cat in hells chance of them getting the Christmas number one or anyone else for that matter.
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Old 25-08-2008, 01:23
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Sorry guys but can we please not turn this into another "Leon" thread.

Seriously peeved off with people doing this.
Fair point Jimmy sorry anyway this could be interesting if they do might stand a shot.
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Old 25-08-2008, 01:28
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Aw sorry all for being involved in going OT. Who knows, maybe Leon himself will come out witha fantastic single which surprises his doubters and wins the race to Xmas No1?
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Old 25-08-2008, 11:55
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I don't understand why they just don't make the Winners single a Xmas ballard. At least the theme would fit the tone.

This is the only part of the X Factor I hate. The fact they have ruined that was a great music chart race.
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Old 25-08-2008, 13:30
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I'm sick of x-factor winner's songs about "this is my moment in time and I'm going for gold to make it big because I was a nobody".
I think Abba should reform just once and release a Killer Chrimbo single just to put an end to this nonsense.
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Old 25-08-2008, 13:40
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I don't see why all winners' singles have to be ballads - something like Walking On Sunshine would be good as you'd think that's how most winners would really be feeling having just heard their name!

I wouldn't suggest the winner realeasing WOS, just a similar type song as I don't like thm releasing covers either, even decent ones. I love Jordin Sparks and David Cook's American Idol winners' singles but that's partly because I always supported them and was so pleased that they both won. Other songs by them are even better.
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Old 25-08-2008, 15:17
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Well Barlow/Kay can dream all they like, but it won't stop the X Factor winner getting the Christmas #1.
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Old 25-08-2008, 16:11
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Well Barlow/Kay can dream all they like, but it won't stop the X Factor winner getting the Christmas #1.
I dunno, Take That are still hot off the heels of their comeback, and it seems this will be marking Peter Kay's tv comeback (I mean, wasn't Max and Paddy in 2004/05? Ages ago! And his 2 singles 500 miles and Amarillo were big sellers, the latter being especially big in sales), I think the combined popularity could definately take it to #1.
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Old 25-08-2008, 16:18
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If anyone can nobble the 'X Factor' winner from landing the number 1 spot, it's Take That and Peter Kay. Both popular. Plus as time goes on, there's going to be even more of a backlash against 'X Factor' grabbing number 1.

I personally wanted Shaun the Sheep to be number 1 when I heard the Woolly Wonder was releasing a single. That was before the live show had even got going. Alas, it wasn't to be.

Oops just realised it's Gary Barlow without the Thatters and Peter Kay.
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Old 26-08-2008, 22:44
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Well I hope Gary Barlow and Peter Kay do get the number 1 spot. Xmas number 1's were always about Novelty records before X Factor came and it's about time it reversed back.
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Old 26-08-2008, 22:56
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The rebellion against the XF Xmas number one has been creeping up for a bit, I think.

Nevertheless, I don't think that there will be strong enough competition for an XF winner's song. We will have another XF winner's song.
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Old 26-08-2008, 23:10
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I love what they're calling their show!

"Britain's Got The Pop Factor and Possibly a New Celebrity Jesus Christ Soapstar Superstar Strictly On Ice"
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Old 26-08-2008, 23:18
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I agree it would be nice if the XF song was a nice Christmas song, or a more upbeat song I'm fed up of the "This Is My Moment/That's My Goal" type rubbish.
The race for Christmas No. 1 used to be great. I agree Cowell has ruined that
Except, pre-Cowell, who did we get?
East 17 (1994)
Spice Girls (1996, 1997, 1998)
Westlife

Hmmm.
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Old 27-08-2008, 00:13
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Well sales have been decreasing in winners' sales, so it could be a possibility. If the winner this year only manages 300-350k it could be very possible.
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Old 27-08-2008, 00:21
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Well sales have been decreasing in winners' sales, so it could be a possibility. If the winner this year only manages 300-350k it could be very possible.
Wouldn't that be an increase on last year?
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Old 27-08-2008, 01:19
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If anything is going to stop the X Factor from being Christmas Number One, I want it to be something that has some kind of actual musical merit. Something I highly doubt this collaboration will have.

Plus, I can't stand Peter Kay
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