Here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pre...orchwood.shtml

It looks like the answer to the question "Who are the new team members?" is "There aren't any."

Peter Capaldi will be appearing as will Paul Copely (who's already been seen on location) and Liz May Brice who's been in a lot of things the only one of which I've seen / can remember was an episode of 'Peep Show'.

Excellent. I love Peter Capaldi.

His characters called Mr Frobisher then?
Not linked I'd imagine by Frobisher was the name of one of Coin Bakers Doctors companions in some of the BFAudio plays. ALthough it was a talking penguin!!!

Unless of course they are keeping some info back, remembering the line from RTD:

"This series is one big serial and the most ambitious story we've ever made, and we've got plenty of surprises in store."

From the sound of it, this is all aimed at a younger audience. I mean, how many times has 'Person trying to make secret organisation or activity known to the public' been done in the new Doctor who series alone? Far too many, and not one has had any decent quality of acting or added anything to the plot, and has always come across feeble and childish, the two things Torchwood is meant to move away from.

It is sad that Freema leaving was probably also the nail in the coffin of Noel Clarke's Torchwood career, as he was portrayed in a far too light way on Doctor who. He works best as an actor when he isn't the comic relief and the tin dog. I was looking forward to seeing him and the character in a whole new way, but it looks like that isn't happening, which is a shame to say the least. He was the one saving factor for the otherwise dire 'Kidulthood/Adulthood' films!

Woah, there. There's nothing to suggest that Martha and Mickey were even written into those episodes, so Freema getting another job (as Noel has, incidentally, and one that was probably arranged long ago) doesn't automatically equal Noel being removed. It's just as likely, if not more so, that they were never meant for TW this season to begin with.

The dire adulthood and kidulthood that he also wrote and directed?

It was never announced that Freema or Noel were ever going to be in Torchwood - people just assumed they were because of the end of Journey's End and for no other reason!!!

It is possible both characters may appear at some point, maybe in the next series and why Freema has anything to do with Noel's career I have no idea.

I also have to make the same point as another poster and say what a strange comment re: Kidulthood/Adulthood. Noel Clarke wrote and directed both as well as starring in.

He's a good actor, doesn't mean he's a good director, plumber, electrician, or fisherman.

All i wished to point out is that it's a strange comment to make ("he's the one saving grace") when he was also responsible for the script and direction of the films (which would suggest he was also mostly responsible for their failings).

YES!

We get another RTD written TW episode!

My favourite ever episode is "Everything Changes", so i'm looking forward to his next piece. S2 was excellent, but it needed a RTD episode.

To be fair the rumours about their involvement started way before Journey's end was screened.

Its possible the rumours were started by insiders seeing the script/filming of JE and assuming but also possible they started elsewhere.

Are they going to fish...

Please God! *begs*

This show is so going to fall flat without his edge and snark . . . not to mention the fact they currently don't have a doctor! Every show needs a wild card – and the remaining characters don't really fulfill that criteria (neither would Martha or Mickey have filled it, had that happened). If they try to ship in another character with similar characteristics to do it instead, it's just going to be a copy-cat scenario, really, and without it it's all going to feel a bit . . . I don't know. Cosy? That's not the word, but you probably can get what I mean from it . . .

Is Mr. Frobisher a descendant of old Caecillius I wonder!

I really did not like Owen, the only episode that I found him remotely bareable was the episode in series 1 when he fell in love with the woman who flew through the rift from the past - leave him dead! Wasn't he disintergrated anyway?

Well that's what Tosh told him, but she didn't say how long it would take, and we didn't see him *die* did we. Actually Owen, although repellent in the first series, was strangely likeable in the second. I thought so anyway. And there's something about Burn Gorman that makes him very watchable when he's on screen. A TW with just Gwen, Jack and the slab-like Ianto...no thanks. Tosh obviously won't be missed as she hardly registered, but Owen will be.

What Rich said! Overly likeable characters can get quite boring after a while. A TW with neither Owen nor Tosh is going to be dire, IMO. I like the other three, but I watched for the overall ensemble and how they bounced off each other – it's like taking two essential ingredients out of your favourite meal, and still expecting it to taste as good!

It was leaked that Martha and Mickey would be joining and Tosh and Owen would be leaving before the end of season 2 of Torchwood, and probably before the journey's end scene had even been filmed. So it was definitely from a reliable source, otherwise why would they get 50% of the prediction right on a long shot, and the other 50% hinted at if not actually done?

Written by Russell T Davies, John Fay and James Moran. That's a pleasant surprise and no mistake! It should be pretty good.

I don't know if it applies specifically to this instance or not, but this year in the WHOverse there was a big misinformation campaign going on at the Beeb – formerly 100% reliable spoiler-people found themselves unwittingly reporting false spoilers that they had been fed, which in turn had probably been fed to their informers from higher up, deliberately to throw everyone off. At one point the spoilers all said that Harriet Jones would become a Dalek, that Donna would die, that the alternate universe of Rose's had collapsed, and some other stuff I can't remember. But those same, formerly reliable, spoiler people, also had some completely true ones in there, such as the second 'hand' Doctor, Rose keeping one in her universe, etc.

Harriet Jones, yeah ok bull =]
Donna did "die" in a manner of speaker.
The void had collapsed? =D

If its true that "budget cuts" are the order of the day at Who-central then the Torchwood mini-series has possibly been kept at a minimal cast to help with this.

IF it gets a series 4 to go alongside Who Five, I assume then we'll get the cast boosted back up to what it was....Martha or Mickey notwithstanding...

Yup, there was some weird stuff out there all right!

Yay!

RTD one of the writers - Great! (Everything changes was excellent, and though he plays a smaller role in it than who, this show is his baby, one he'd been planning since the late 90s under the name excalibur)

Euros Lynn directing - Great! (He's directed some moffat who episodes and so is more than qualified)

James Moran one of the writers - Great! (He's responsible for fires of pompeii and is currently working on Law and Order London)

John Fray one of the writers - Great! (Clocking off was BAFTA award winning and rightly so imo)

Shame that it looks like we're not getting any new permanant cast members. But who knows, perhaps we will, but joining during the seriies rather than before hence us not knowing.

Also a shame that it will only be one week long.

But good that it's on BBC 1 primetime, where it belongs after series 2 imo.