Cable & Wireless UK GSM Network Planned?

pje1979 · 27-08-2008, 05:04

I see GSM World have Cable & Wireless listed as a planned UK GSM network. Anyone know what it's all about? Are they going to be wholesaling or are they going into the retail market?

http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_gb.shtml

sjc2007 · 27-08-2008, 05:06

Good lord

Widdy · 27-08-2008, 09:57

I believe this is the new FMC service. At home your mobile uses your home landline, when you step outside the call switches to the GSM networks. aparently even mid-call.

Darobi · 27-08-2008, 11:13

Not a public service. Part of a full package offered to business's to converge there communications setups into one provider.

pje1979 · 27-08-2008, 16:01

Ah I see thanks for the info.

digimon900 · 27-08-2008, 21:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Widdy

I believe this is the new FMC service. At home your mobile uses your home landline, when you step outside the call switches to the GSM networks. aparently even mid-call.

Known as "Rabbit" in the olden days!
Anyone remember Rabbit?

blueacid · 27-08-2008, 21:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darobi

Not a public service. Part of a full package offered to business's to converge there communications setups into one provider.

Surely it'd be far far cheaper to become an MNVO? I mean, three have been building their network since around 2002 (or even earlier!) and they still don't have anything like the coverage of the 2G networks.

pje1979 · 28-08-2008, 04:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueacid

Surely it'd be far far cheaper to become an MNVO? I mean, three have been building their network since around 2002 (or even earlier!) and they still don't have anything like the coverage of the 2G networks.

That's what I thought. Just think of the cost and time needed to roll out a network.

prking · 28-08-2008, 07:42

But the "network" will only cover the client company's site. When on-site, employee's handsets will roam onto the company network.

Darobi · 28-08-2008, 09:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by prking

But the "network" will only cover the client company's site. When on-site, employee's handsets will roam onto the company network.

correct.

As for 2g to 3g coverage.

GSM upto 20-30KM, 3G upto 5-10 on a good day!!

Of the big 5 Three have the largest 3G network for obvious reasons.

The rest have an automatic 2g to fall back on. Three roam back to Orange.

2G is also running out of time on the licences, so some of them had best pull their finger out.

blueacid · 28-08-2008, 13:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by prking

But the "network" will only cover the client company's site. When on-site, employee's handsets will roam onto the company network.

Ohhhhh okay! Gotcha

Methuselah Now · 28-08-2008, 18:24

Hi,

But what's the point?

As for the Rabbit reference, how history repeats itself - How could Barclays/hutchinson/BAE do something in the early-90's/late-80's that people/telco's are getting excited about now?

Also, I remember Eckoh (earlier in its life) in the late-90's doing this with just such an MVNO/Bundled model for the business market.

Kind regards,

MN

agent_c · 28-08-2008, 22:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Methuselah Now

Hi,

But what's the point?

As for the Rabbit reference, how history repeats itself - How could Barclays/hutchinson/BAE do something in the early-90's/late-80's that people/telco's are getting excited about now?

Price of the technology coming down.

prking · 29-08-2008, 07:48

Its all to do with cost. Installing a fixed line system on a large site is very expensive and then further costs when in use.

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pje1979 Guest Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 5,568	Cable & Wireless UK GSM Network Planned? I see GSM World have Cable & Wireless listed as a planned UK GSM network. Anyone know what it's all about? Are they going to be wholesaling or are they going into the retail market? http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_gb.shtml

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sjc2007 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 4,020	Good lord

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Widdy Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Yorkshire, UK Posts: 1,955	I believe this is the new FMC service. At home your mobile uses your home landline, when you step outside the call switches to the GSM networks. aparently even mid-call.

27-08-2008, 11:13	#4
Darobi Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: North Notts Posts: 4,090	Not a public service. Part of a full package offered to business's to converge there communications setups into one provider.

27-08-2008, 16:01	#5
pje1979 Guest Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 5,568	Ah I see thanks for the info.

27-08-2008, 21:15	#6
digimon900 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Pennsylvania USA Posts: 3,830	Quote: Originally Posted by Widdy I believe this is the new FMC service. At home your mobile uses your home landline, when you step outside the call switches to the GSM networks. aparently even mid-call. Known as "Rabbit" in the olden days! Anyone remember Rabbit?

27-08-2008, 21:24	#7
blueacid Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,536	Quote: Originally Posted by Darobi Not a public service. Part of a full package offered to business's to converge there communications setups into one provider. Surely it'd be far far cheaper to become an MNVO? I mean, three have been building their network since around 2002 (or even earlier!) and they still don't have anything like the coverage of the 2G networks.

28-08-2008, 04:00	#8
pje1979 Guest Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 5,568	Quote: Originally Posted by blueacid Surely it'd be far far cheaper to become an MNVO? I mean, three have been building their network since around 2002 (or even earlier!) and they still don't have anything like the coverage of the 2G networks. That's what I thought. Just think of the cost and time needed to roll out a network.

28-08-2008, 07:42	#9
prking Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Weston-super-Mare Posts: 9,167	But the "network" will only cover the client company's site. When on-site, employee's handsets will roam onto the company network.

28-08-2008, 09:35	#10
Darobi Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: North Notts Posts: 4,090	Quote: Originally Posted by prking But the "network" will only cover the client company's site. When on-site, employee's handsets will roam onto the company network. correct. As for 2g to 3g coverage. GSM upto 20-30KM, 3G upto 5-10 on a good day!! Of the big 5 Three have the largest 3G network for obvious reasons. The rest have an automatic 2g to fall back on. Three roam back to Orange. 2G is also running out of time on the licences, so some of them had best pull their finger out.

28-08-2008, 13:57	#11
blueacid Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,536	Quote: Originally Posted by prking But the "network" will only cover the client company's site. When on-site, employee's handsets will roam onto the company network. Ohhhhh okay! Gotcha

28-08-2008, 18:24	#12
Methuselah Now Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,597	Hi, But what's the point? As for the Rabbit reference, how history repeats itself - How could Barclays/hutchinson/BAE do something in the early-90's/late-80's that people/telco's are getting excited about now? Also, I remember Eckoh (earlier in its life) in the late-90's doing this with just such an MVNO/Bundled model for the business market. Kind regards, MN

28-08-2008, 22:38	#13
agent_c Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: This side of the screen. Posts: 910	Quote: Originally Posted by Methuselah Now Hi, But what's the point? As for the Rabbit reference, how history repeats itself - How could Barclays/hutchinson/BAE do something in the early-90's/late-80's that people/telco's are getting excited about now? Price of the technology coming down.

29-08-2008, 07:48	#14
prking Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Weston-super-Mare Posts: 9,167	Its all to do with cost. Installing a fixed line system on a large site is very expensive and then further costs when in use.

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