I think Jenny would have the potential to become Scrappy Doo very quickly...

Quoted for truth!!!

I do think it was a good idea to have kept Jenny around; and although I hope SM's suggestion of having her revive wasn't a ploy to bring her in as a future companion, it's certainly nice to have a stock of possible recurring characters about that have more potential than the usual clump of present day companion's relatives.

I still hope we won't have him bumping her into her all the time in pretty contrived storylines, but at least with Jenny her crossing paths with her father have some potential. Same with River Song really, although I don't expect to see too much of her anytime soon. While her death wasn't as tragic as it could have been, what with her living on in the memory banks of a computer, to have seen her death already occur before being introduced to a younger River Song will certainly hang over her in a big way. I don't expect to see her travelling with the Doctor on any full time basis - although I wouldn't rule out a couple of two parters or one off adventures scattered here and there. Then again - I think it will be difficult to develop her character on screen to be honest. Unless as yet, unmentioned encounters between her and the Doctor are a lot more exciting then picnics and the movies, I think it'll be a hard one to play out on screen.

Plus - Alex Kingston will be nearing 50 soon, so even if they were to have her recur - unless they shove all her appearances close together, she's not going to really be of a convincing enough age for too long.

AK probably would not be interested any prolonged part in Who anyway -lives in the US these days does she not -thinking if we see River Song it would be a different actress?

Whats difficult to develop -it would be a love story and viewers love a love story -how they meet -how the relationship develops -why do they end up apart yet still together.And of course the adventures they will have -picnics and movies might sound insignificant but never with DW .What we do know is the Doctor has clearly felt River Song significant enough in his life to tell her stuff or something to happen that shocked 10 when River told him.If shes as important or maybe even more significant in the Doctors journey as Rose i'd like to see her story properly told .


The character is not yet developed -so many dismissed Donna as a companion then had to backtrack once they seen the character develop-we don't know Jenny yet.

I did really like Lynda, however - she clearly died. Even if she wasn't "exterminated" by the Daleks, the fact the glass shattered would have been the end for her.

Also, I think the assistant needs to be contemporary. Although I love the adventures in space and time, I think our age needs to be included and I think the companion's connection with this time is essential.

I thought it was Overrated too so don't you're not alone.

Speaking of Overrated this is going to be another unpopular opinion (geez what is it with me and unpopular opinions? I seem to have an awful lot of them recently) but I actually think Jo Joyner is Overrated too and I for one really don't want her to return...


(Red-Eye gets hit with a Frying Pan)


I think I'll leave this Thread now.


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Seriously people I'm really not trying to cause trouble here, that's just how I honestly feel!

I really don't enjoy having unpopular opinions about "Doctor Who" but there you go.

Yeah, if the doctor was to meet a twenty year old Riversong she would have to be played by a different actress with a decent resemblence to Alex Kingston. And I'm sure that at one point Riversong says that she has known the doctor her whole life.

Completely agree with you. I can't understand this desire some fans have to connect everything and everyone in the series to everything and everyone else and create a self-contained Whoniverse of fanw*nk. This endless self-reference was one of the factors that did for the original series in the '80s - the series spiralled so far up its own arse that casual viewers neither knew nor cared what the stories were about - and I do sometimes worry that the new series is going to go the same way. I don't particularly care for the idea that each season has to have its own story arc but I can deal with it as it generally doesn't interfere with the individual stories too much. One of the reasons I really didn't like the majority of series four, however, was that this self-reference was starting to get in the way (I know I'm in a minority here but I hated Turn Left as it required the viewer to have seen - and remembered - several stories since The Runaway Bride).

The beauty of Doctor Who - and the reason the original series was able to carry on for so long until it all started going pear-shaped in the '80s - is that the simple premise of a traveller being able to go anywhere in space and time means viewers can enjoy all sorts of fresh stories in all sorts of different environments with all sorts of different characters without them needing to know any more than this simple premise. How many other drama programmes have this advantage?

I've said it elsewhere but I'd really love Steven Moffat to take full advantage of this loose structure and free the programme from the weight of its own history, so I really think the new companion should be a new character.

That's fair enough- we need to stick together! We share the same opinion over Blink!

I agree with most of what you said....I too love Doctor Who due to its ability to have loose structure, and stand alone episodes, and reason why I prefer it to things like Lost, which is a great endearing Drama, but once you've missed a few, you start thinking that a game of Suduko with only 5 numbers already filled in is easier to understand


However in defence of series 4 and Turn Left, I think it was more about RTD tying the loose ends of his created stories, which even though seemed as if they were planned the moment the first series even been written, that wasn't actaully the case....it was RTD's last series, his swansong, so it was about treating the Fans who stuck by it....however I still don't feel it alienated new viewers, because for example the so called events in Turn Left, even though they were references to old episodes, you could still relate to the characters i.e Donna and Wilf, experiencing these events, because it was happening to them for the first time, so the new audiance would also be seeing it for the first Time, and Rose was also there to explain to not only an unaware Donna, but the Audiance too, about how the Doctor played a part in stopping these events....I don't know if that made sense, but I say that because a cousin of mine who isn't into DW, watched it, and wasn't confused one bit, but still didn't like it as the effects are cr*p

Well at ComicCon Steven Moffat was asked about the whole Jenny thing and he did actually say it was too obvious for her to die and let her live. He said he did forget all about it until everyone started talking about what are Moffat's plans for Jenny. I'm not sure he has any plans for her, but who knows? Well, obviously he does!

The recurring characters have worked so well and made us care, we don't have to get used to someone else all over again. I appreciate that doesn't work for everyone, but Rose, for example, was young and fun, children instantly liked her as did Mums and Dads (all for different reasons!!!)

But, we all like different aspects of the programme; I'm happy if it stays as is, but if it changes, it'll be interesting to see what happens.

I can vouch for this because I had never watched a single episode of new Who before Season 4 but found Turn Left utterly compelling - so compelling in fact that it prompted me to seek out all the previous seasons. Obviously I would have gotten even more out of it as a fan - I realise that with hindsight - but my lack of prior knowledge didn't impair my enjoyment or understanding at the time.

That said, I'm with brouhaha regarding Moffat offloading the baggage of the past. It's definitely time to lose Rose, Jack, Mickey, Martha et al or the show will get hopelessly stuck looking backwards to the point where it really does become impossible for new viewers to join the party.

And in fact, fond though I am of David Tennant, I wouldn't even mind if he were to be replaced as well . New Doctor, new assistant and new villains for a new era. Works for me...

How about a "celebrity" companion, by which I mean a historical figure. Someone like a young Isaac Newton, Gallileo, or HG Wells (my favourite).

I dont think would be a good replacement for DT, well not yet anyway

I like the fact he bumps into people, i hate it when he doesn't - it makes the universe look big, but it looks strange for him to never ever bump into them again, that's a good thing about what RTD did, made the universe look alright.

NO WE CANT GET RID OF JACK!

I'm sorry....just...just NO!

I disagree with this ... my friend missed the entire of series 3 (and The Runaway Bride) because she was abroad, so all of the events in Turn Left that were referenced were a mystery to her. Despite this, Turn Left is her favourite episode of series 1,2 and 4.

I don't think you need to have seen those episodes at all, it just adds something for the viewer who has seen them. For those who haven't, its just a series of events which would have happened without the Doctor.

Nah, Turn Left wasn't my favourite but it was fab. My top five:
1. Doomsday
2. The Parting of the Ways
3. Bad Wolf
4. The Girl in The Fireplace
5. The Shakespeare Code

Ooh, I just want a new start, a fresh re-boot, a re-invention if you like. I don't want Rose back ( she just annoyed the hell out of me with that stupid "I've been stung by a wasp" mouth ) and the rest, isn't it obvious that the last double episode was a goodbye?

I really want a new companion - please no more teenage women, Donna Noble was a good companion in the vein of some of the stronger previous ones - if the Doctor has the power that is always being talked about, surely he needs a strong companion to keep him tethered to a reality? A male and female companion (possibly a sister and brother even) could be interested as you would have various dynamics that could be played out.

And another thing - the Doctor's Daughter as a companion - please god no - I thought Rose was kind of ok enough for the initial re-boot, but this would be a bad idea.

And if we are thinking unlikely pairings, how about Chris Moyles and Alan Carr as the next companions. That would be funny. In a "oh my god I can't watch this crap" way .......

Before anyone flames, I love them both and think they are genuinely funny guys.

Couldn't agree more. I'd rather have a good actress over eye candy.

I was watching Catherine Tate's performance in Scenes of a Sexual Nature, and it struck me how lucky we have been to have such a good actress play a companion. I've watched Doctor Who since the mid 1970s, and am familiar with previous companions performances, and I don't think anyone comes close to Catherine in ability. Sarah Jane was and always will be my favourite, but I readily accpet that Lis Sladen is no where need the actress Catherine is.

So it would be a shame to go back to the eye candy type.

Jack and Sarah Jane are part of the current Whoniverse, with their own series. Even if they never directly cross paths with The Doctor again, we can't get rid of them, nor should we. The connection can be maintained by references. It needn't involve cross-over episodes or guest shots.

David is such a brilliant actor, the programme just works so much better when he has a a strong actor to work with and bounce off. His interaction with David Morrissey in the Christmas special, I'm sure will be great judging on Blackpool, for example. We need that to continue.

I love David Morrissey- if I had to choose I'd pick him as the next Doctor

That would be odd though seeing as he will be in the special. But I am sticking my fingers in my ears and singing loudly then all this talk of DT going I am certain will go away!!!!!

I meant Neil Morrissey XD