We do not have the whole story yet but it must be big to make her risk her relationionship with capital where I am sure she has many friends after working there a year and was her bedrock.

i cannot believe it is the usual announcing on one show every few weeks(this could be combined with other jobs as the others do)

The BBC seem to be going for a major relaunch(my tip -move the main show back to Thursday)

the relaunch may have other promotional duties and radio options.-and hopefully they have not overestimated her appeal.

Any Radio 1 slots looking tired at the moment?

I do not see Kate as a BBC person however -I hope she will be happy there-Remember a lot of the arrows at her in the media are often made without knowing anything about her but are simply dissing BB by association.

Anyone who has watched RI:SE has legitimate reasons for 'dissing' Kate quite independently of any association with BB.
Last edited by lulu g : 23-09-2003 at 23:31

[quote]Originally posted by lulu g
Anyone who has watched RI:SE has legitimate reasons for 'dissing' Kate quite independendly of any association with BB. [/QUOTE

The earlier point(where is it?)
I think the BBC offer must have come up first.
When The Andi Peters announcement was made re BBC I am sure Capital would have wanted her to continue in the slot with someone else or maybe weekly guests.(I think it was one of their higher ranking shows)
She will be too high profile at the BBC for a headline show.
(Andi is able to do it as although he is re-jigging TOTP and has reccomended Kate as someone in touch with the bands and the fans he is not appearing and so is not a face associated with the show)

[quote]Originally posted by Vilt UK

Quote:
“Originally posted by lulu g
Anyone who has watched RI:SE has legitimate reasons for 'dissing' Kate quite independendly of any association with BB. [/QUOTE

The earlier point(where is it?)
I think the BBC offer must have come up first.
When The Andi Peters announcement was made re BBC I am sure Capital would have wanted her to continue in the slot with someone else or maybe weekly guests.(I think it was one of their higher ranking shows)
She will be too high profile at the BBC for a headline show.
(Andi is able to do it as although he is re-jigging TOTP and has reccomended Kate as someone in touch with the bands and the fans he is not appearing and so is not a face associated with the show)”

I refer you to the first post in this thread (by Tamara). That report makes it quite clear that Kate did not jump, but was pushed.

Previous TOTP presenters - even genuinely high-profile ones - have been able to secure and hold down radio jobs at the same time, even on national radio.

You guys are making it sound like Kate hasn't made it! no more effort is needed by Kate as she is now established "A list".

When Kate first took on the Capital and RISE jobs, you were all falling over youself to post that neither job would last two weeks (in the mistaken belief that it was what Alex (sibley) would want you to do). So much for your predictions.

I'm no media guru but don't these sorts of things happen all the time presenters come and go, shows come and go. Its not even as if she hasn't got anything lined up, mind you she deserves a holiday, it will be well earned snd she has a very busy 12 months ahead of her. God knows what heights she would have risen to by then.

Things havn't panned out the way we expected, we all wanted and expected Alex to be the huge star, but somehow it fell in Kates lap instead. Even if you don't accept it was Kates talent, then accept she was just lucky, either way accept it.

yeah right

be careful you might cut yourself

it happened to the sword's last owner

yeah well it helps that they actually know something about the music scene past and present... like at least heard of the bands.... unlike kate

I don't know what Kate is doing but its clear what she couldn't do. When Kate took on RISE she couldn't cover for Penk on Capital as she was asleep in the evenings and he ended 4 hours before RISE seems to start rehearsals. She has been doing specials for Capital instead since she started RISE. When Andi got the BBC job Capital announced he was going and their sunday show would be done by Kate alone . Suggests they wanted to keep Kate - sensible as their ratings were up too. Kate now has RISE until practically the end of the year. If she has any other unknown job to go to before December she would be working a 6 day week so something would have to go.

Frankly we don't know enough to speculate. Why has Capital kept Andi on the books, why was he twinned with Kate and now Emma? Why did he and Kate suddenly start practicing telling the time for a period on their show then stop, why was Andi doing morning radio in Wales? How many jobs can he do? Thats before we get to wondering what Kate could do next.

PS whoever thought Kate had a Pat Bucher radio voice needs to listen more. She can go into South London but her radio voice is more radio 4/blue peter than most of the radio 1 djs.

You are missing the point about RISE - its a daily two hour live morning show. Given that, it sounds as if they do it the only way they could - after one quick riun through every day. There is NO TIME to research what the West Wing is or discuss it like you would if you had a weekly show like Ross or Parkinson ( West Wing audiences are probably lower than RISE's so why would she know? ) Nor does she have time to get an atlas out and find out where Inverness is - she knows its in Scotland which is all 99.9% people in London would know. I don't know where it is either because it is something no sensible person would clutter their brain with.. Kate actually does kinow her stuff on current music and films which is precisely what I would tell her to concentrate on.

Frankly it doesn't matter anyway. As any of the Aunty's bloopers series or Norton's shows prove, most news and talk shows would be full of similar gaffes if they were shown live. Compared with CBBC or CITV which are the breeding ground of future presenters, RISE for its length is actually pretty low on gaffes per hour. It also is the only show that allows its hosts to corpse each other, its guests and its supporting presenters -which actually explains many of the "faux mots"

Rehearsals? Surely not!

Still, at least she will get a job as a market trader when the media work dries up completely.

Yes I know loads of gaffes are made by other presenters, and also that if presenters pretend they know all about something when all they've done is 5 mins "research" they're being a bit hypocritical.

However, Kate just shows no nous about anything. If The West Wing had just come up in a conversation about another topic altogether there would be some excuse. However on Monday morning they were linking with the US re the Emmy Awards; surely the least she could have done was check the shortlsted programmes and find out a bit about them. 10 mins would have been long enough.

But perhaps she thinks it somehow cool to be so stupid.

maybe her agent said ...."go on kate it worked for jade"

jade is considerably richer than yow

She may be a bit dizzy but I wouldn't wish that on anybody.

Why does a TOTP presenter need to know the past and present history of pop music?

All the presenter does basically is introduce the next act and as there are only about 5 or 6 acts per show the presenter will probably only be speaking for about 5 or 6 minutes total.

Everything will be scripted and rehearsed, so all Kate has to do is look sparkly and enthusiastic...................she can handle that can't she..............it's not rocket science..................has somebody already said that?

Bystander, the voice of reason.

Indeed, lulu - bystander puts the whole controversy into perspective, as usual

What the hell does it matter if Kate has never heard of The Happy Mondays - they're not going to be on TOTP are they ?

And if they do turn up I'm sure she'll manage to pronounce the name right

Well, you have more faith than I do, Swing. I don't think you have been watching RI:SE, have you?

erm, err..........

Quite, she's getting ditsier by the day and was thrilled this morning to be named third in the 'unthinking man's woman' poll - she just wasn't sure whether it was better to be after Jade or not.
Ah well I suppose it's all press coverage.......
She doesn't know any music or bands prior to the last couple of years, she doesn't know any history as she didn't study it and wasn't born then, she did study geography but doesn't seem to know any - I'm surprised she hasn't started saying - 'I dunno, I wasn't born there........'

Thank you Lulu and Swing.....................it's nice not to get a bollocking for one of my posts.........................not yet anyway.

Give it time......

I'm feeling the love Anon...............even from here.

ooooo goody
Apologies btw it's what I thought at the time - I almost apologised last night then read a thread when you'd done the same again so I went to bed instead but I do feel a bit bad - well only just a teentsy bit.........
Glad you're feeling lovey tonight though

coz its called having presenter credibility...
or more importantly lack of incredibility

or likewise Jade 'd be a fine choice to present Mastermind,
coz all she gotta do is be able to read the cards, so why not