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Very "excitable" kitten - does she need to be spayed?
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RAINBOWGIRL22
09-09-2008
Mine isn's due to be spayed for at least another month / 6 weeks....... in the meantime we are having to keep her indoors and she is being incredibly naughty!!!

In fact not only is she being very naughty but she is also really "bitey"..... She bites everything? Including me and she is starting to bloody hurt

I am wondering if this is due to being kept in? Or is it something the go through as they get a bit older and begin to reach "maturity". Or is she teething?

The vet mentioned that we'll know when to spay her as she'll be "more noisy" than usual but he didn't tell us about any unusual behaviour etc???
Ber
09-09-2008
She is the cat equivalent of a teenager - mine was exactly the same for about a month before we could get her done!

We also had a (neutered) male and she would "present" herself to him. The poor thing didn't know what to do and she tormented him something rotten!!!
shardlake
09-09-2008
Isn't that just kitten behaviour?

Seriously though did you used play with her when she was smaller and let her attack your hand in a game of rough and tumble?
I did this with one of mine as as i got her as a tiny kitten, the others were all older when they arrived, so I played rough and tumble with because she looked so cute when she was being 'vicious' and the other cats at the time were very elderly and and were far too mature for such games. Anyway she kept on doing it and it bliddy hurt as she got bigger, if I stroked her she was all sweetness then attack.
I've since found out that she thinks I still enjoy it and she's showing affection to me (so it's all my fault )
I now Just say ouch withdraw my hand and disattend her for a very short while and she's alot better, which is just as well because otherwise she's a proper little 'cuddle bundle'.
RAINBOWGIRL22
09-09-2008
We do play with her a lot and mt BF is quite boistorous with her, but she does not bite him at all! Seems my knuckles, fingers, elbows and toes etc fit in her mouth a lot better than his do

My little one goes from sweetness to attack mode in about 2 seconds.....

She sleeps with us and is fine throughout the night so I think it may be down to her inability to differentiate between play and biting fingers off

She has plenty of toys, scratching post etc and as I say she doesn't bite my BF at all......Just me!!!
pai pai
09-09-2008
Originally Posted by RAINBOWGIRL22:
“We do play with her a lot and mt BF is quite boistorous with her, but she does not bite him at all! Seems my knuckles, fingers, elbows and toes etc fit in her mouth a lot better than his do

My little one goes from sweetness to attack mode in about 2 seconds.....

She sleeps with us and is fine throughout the night so I think it may be down to her inability to differentiate between play and biting fingers off

She has plenty of toys, scratching post etc and as I say she doesn't bite my BF at all......Just me!!!”

Are you the one that feeds her? She'll be practising her hunting skills on you (her mum!), it sounds like a kitten thing to do, teething and going mad with the weather. It's normal, enjoy her!
Ultrasonic
09-09-2008
Each time she bites you, give her a slap on the arse. She'll soon associate biting you with being slapped, and stop.
RAINBOWGIRL22
09-09-2008
Originally Posted by pai pai:
“Are you the one that feeds her? She'll be practising her hunting skills on you (her mum!), it sounds like a kitten thing to do, teething and going mad with the weather. It's normal, enjoy her!”

I am indeed the one who feeds her and she does tend to enjoy hunting - especially me (she'll hide and then pounce on my feet when I walk past her!!)

We love her to pieces, biting and all, I just wondered if it was a hormone thing or a teething thing, or maybe if she just hates me?

Originally Posted by Ultrasonic:
“Each time she bites you, give her a slap on the arse. She'll soon associate biting you with being slapped, and stop.”

I don't think I'd be able to get near enough to smack her arse without her getting hold of my fingers
Mutleykaz
09-09-2008
Originally Posted by RAINBOWGIRL22:
“Mine isn's due to be spayed for at least another month / 6 weeks....... in the meantime we are having to keep her indoors and she is being incredibly naughty!!!

In fact not only is she being very naughty but she is also really "bitey"..... She bites everything? Including me and she is starting to bloody hurt

I am wondering if this is due to being kept in? Or is it something the go through as they get a bit older and begin to reach "maturity". Or is she teething?

The vet mentioned that we'll know when to spay her as she'll be "more noisy" than usual but he didn't tell us about any unusual behaviour etc???”


Is she five and a half months yet? If so the vet will spey her now. I seem to remember you got her around the time we had ours and they're due soon.

I'd ring the vet and ask. Sooner she's done the sooner she can go out and explore.
Ultrasonic
09-09-2008
Originally Posted by RAINBOWGIRL22:
“I don't think I'd be able to get near enough to smack her arse without her getting hold of my fingers ”

Grab her by the scruff of the neck then.
shardlake
09-09-2008
You must just taste better
Mine sleeps with me through the night and she's all purrs and affection, until the alarm goes off and if I don't get up she gentley paws my face and kisses me, then knocks things off shelves gradually gets madder until I get up .
I think you're right about not knowing the difference between play and biting fingers off, hopefully she'll learn as she gets older, just remember to go "Ouch" and look hurt .
I don't think mine changed much after being spayed, but she did become a bit more settled when she was allowed out, I think when they just have humans to play with as opposed to other kittens or their mother they don't realise their limits as quickly.
My bf cats don't attack people as they're mother and daughter and the mother was a pregnant adult stray when she arrived, and as I said my others were all older rescue cats that had socialised with other cats from a young age and they don't relly attack, just sometimes, but with paws not claws .
takeyourpick
09-09-2008
Originally Posted by RAINBOWGIRL22:
“I am indeed the one who feeds her and she does tend to enjoy hunting - especially me (she'll hide and then pounce on my feet when I walk past her!!)

We love her to pieces, biting and all, I just wondered if it was a hormone thing or a teething thing, or maybe if she just hates me?

I don't think I'd be able to get near enough to smack her arse without her getting hold of my fingers ”

Ignore Ultrasonic, they're just saying that to get a rise out of people

Do not smack the cat, do nothing, it's normal cat behaviour. It can sometimes be a sign that they've been taken away from the rest of their litter too soon as they don't learn that biting can be bad

Just put anything with thin wires away in cupboards (such as phone chargers etc), and after you've had her spayed, get another kitten, they will fight like monsters for a couple of weeks normally, but another kitten will help to keep her company and entertained.

Most cat homes I know wont re-home single kittens anymore, they wait to put them into a pair.
stud u like
09-09-2008
My cat is still mad and playful and does bite a lot but it does not hurt me. We play attack the banister monster every day a game she has played since she was 3 months old.

It improves her hunting skills.
susie-4964
09-09-2008
People definitely shouldn't encourage rough play in cats unless they're prepared to be scratched and bitten hard. It's very cute to watch a kitten doing this, but as others have said, the cat gets the idea that you like it and carries on as an adult. That's how cats play with each other, so it is a compliment, but they've got fur and we haven't! I usually tap ours on the nose when they get too rough (very gently, but enough to notice), and they back off. There must be a cat-cat signal to stop this behaviour, I'm trying to figure out what it is!
pai pai
09-09-2008
Originally Posted by takeyourpick:
“Ignore Ultrasonic, they're just saying that to get a rise out of people

Do not smack the cat, do nothing, it's normal cat behaviour. It can sometimes be a sign that they've been taken away from the rest of their litter too soon as they don't learn that biting can be bad
”

Excellent point! You could try and do an angry 'miaow' like her mother would have done, you'll probably feel stupid but she might just get the point, or you might get locked up!
shardlake
09-09-2008
Originally Posted by susie-4964:
“People definitely shouldn't encourage rough play in cats unless they're prepared to be scratched and bitten hard. It's very cute to watch a kitten doing this, but as others have said, the cat gets the idea that you like it and carries on as an adult. That's how cats play with each other, so it is a compliment, but they've got fur and we haven't! I usually tap ours on the nose when they get too rough (very gently, but enough to notice), and they back off. There must be a cat-cat signal to stop this behaviour, I'm trying to figure out what it is!”

If you do find what it is please, please let us know
stud u like
09-09-2008
Originally Posted by shardlake:
“If you do find what it is please, please let us know ”

Hissing works. If I am annoyed with her,I hiss and she runs outside.

The hoover works well too. That soon stops any bad behaviour.
susie-4964
09-09-2008
Originally Posted by shardlake:
“If you do find what it is please, please let us know ”

The angry miaoww works sometimes, but I think it's more surprise. I've watched the cats fighting with each other, and they tend to bat each other off with a paw, so I guess a nose tap is quite close to that. A hiss also seems to work, but I've not mastered arching my back and making my hair stand on end yet!
sancheeez
09-09-2008
Her behavior isn't "in heat" type behavior.

It's just standard young cat behaviour.

When she comes into season, if you have a male in the house, you'll know all about it! It'll be arse in the air and constant miaowing every time anything male so much as clears it's throat. And yes, that includes male humans .... not just cats.

Before we had the older of our two speyed she was in heat (hadn't been since having the kittens) and would not leave me alone (or any male friends that visited the house) but completely ignored my wife (and any female friends who visited).
Ultrasonic
09-09-2008
Originally Posted by takeyourpick:
“Ignore Ultrasonic, they're just saying that to get a rise out of people ”

They?

There's only one of me.
RAINBOWGIRL22
09-09-2008
She's still only just over four months so can't be spayed just yet!!!

I know its all "normal" kitten behaviour and every evening she will settle down with me for "cuddles" and as I say she sleeps with me.

In all honesty I don't chastise her for biting me and never have (she is so bloody cute when she nibbles away on my elbows ) so I guess I need to start doing that!!

My BF hisses at her when she is doing something she shouldn't (as you can imagine with a 4 month old kitten my BF does a lot of hissing ) and she responds to that. Its kind of like we've been "good cop, bad cop" with her!!!

I suppose I just wanted some reassurance - as I say she isn't allowed out much at all until she is spayed and we feel a bit guilty for keeping her in.

Just glad to know its all normal if that makes sense?

I don't think we have the space for another kitten at the moment, but would have loved to had two together!!! I remember reading that by play fighting with each other they learn pain barriers etc and it makes them less likely to nibble on us humans!!
shardlake
09-09-2008
Originally Posted by stud u like:
“Hissing works. If I am annoyed with her,I hiss and she runs outside.

The hoover works well too. That soon stops any bad behaviour.”

Originally Posted by susie-4964:
“The angry miaoww works sometimes, but I think it's more surprise. I've watched the cats fighting with each other, and they tend to bat each other off with a paw, so I guess a nose tap is quite close to that. A hiss also seems to work, but I've not mastered arching my back and making my hair stand on end yet! ”


The hiss and angry meoww sometimes, works other times they just look at me as though I'm not right .

It's true they don't like the vacuum .

I do tap her sometimes, its' just I can't always get my hand in as she's so fast with her front legs .
Funny thing is she sometimes gently holds my hand in her mouth as if to warn me to calm down, I think she's teaching me how to behave.
Ee I just love cats
Sorry don't mean to hijack the thread OP
takeyourpick
09-09-2008
Originally Posted by Ultrasonic:
“They?

There's only one of me.”

'They' isn't implying plural, it's implying that I do not know your gender so can't refer to you as he/she. Would you prefer I call you 'It' instead?
takeyourpick
09-09-2008
Originally Posted by RAINBOWGIRL22:
“She's still only just over four months so can't be spayed just yet!!!”

The RSPCA do it at a number of weeks, each vet is different.
Ultrasonic
09-09-2008
Originally Posted by takeyourpick:
“'They' isn't implying plural, it's implying that I do not know your gender so can't refer to you as he/she. Would you prefer I call you 'It' instead? ”

"She/he" would be perfectly acceptable in such a situation.

However, for your future reference, I'm a bloke.
takeyourpick
09-09-2008
Originally Posted by Ultrasonic:
“"She/he" would be perfectly acceptable in such a situation.

However, for your future reference, I'm a bloke. ”

I'll stick with 'it' then
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