Fixed Plug / Power supply

SurreyStu · 12-09-2008, 11:15

Hi

I have just taken hold of a Sony LCD which i want to mount on my wall.

The only problem is the power supply / plug is permanently fixed into the back of the lcd.

This will probably cause an issue when i want to drop the cables down behind the wall as the plug is going to get caught on the inside of the wall....

Can i cut the plug off....drop the cable down the wall...pul it out of the bottom and then attach a new plug ?

Is this ok?

Willie Wontie · 12-09-2008, 11:26

That's what you would do for anything else that has a moulded plug attached. Just make sure that the real plug you connect to the end after you have dropped the wire down the back has the same (or at least same size) fuse in it as the one in the moulded plug.

Lurch · 12-09-2008, 12:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie Wontie

Just make sure that the real plug you connect to the end after you have dropped the wire down the back has the same (or at least same size) fuse in it as the one in the moulded plug.

Right the first time, use the same size fuse, not one larger.

Nigel Goodwin · 12-09-2008, 12:55

Best not to cut the plug off, it voids the warranty - either fit a socket on the wall, or a trailing socket to plug in to. Also if you have to remove the set for any reason, you don't want to be pulling a lead back up the wall.

SurreyStu · 12-09-2008, 13:49

i cant add a socket to the wall based on the eaves in my roof...the electrician can't run the cable down the wall as he can't get to the relevant space in the loft...

i guess i'll just have to cut the plug off and then re-wire once i have dropped the cable down the cavity wall...

Willie Wontie · 12-09-2008, 15:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

Best not to cut the plug off, it voids the warranty

Almost all electrical equipment that you can buy which comes with a moulded plug attached specifically includes a tag or sticker reminding you that if you have to remove the plug then you should replace it with a removable plug with the same fuse in it. They wouldn't give you this reminder/warning if they didn't want you to do it. Sony may be different to the rest of the world - but I doubt it.

Nigel Goodwin · 12-09-2008, 17:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie Wontie

Almost all electrical equipment that you can buy which comes with a moulded plug attached specifically includes a tag or sticker reminding you that if you have to remove the plug then you should replace it with a removable plug with the same fuse in it. They wouldn't give you this reminder/warning if they didn't want you to do it. Sony may be different to the rest of the world - but I doubt it.

What's Sony got to do with it?.

Removing a fitted mains plug is modification of the TV, and voids the warranty - doesn't matter what make it is.

Like I said above, use a trailing socket and a piece of cable to avoid cutting it off.

Deacon1972 · 12-09-2008, 18:01

How many will be buying these flat panels to fit on the wall, do they really think customers want to run new wiring and have sockets up the wall all because cutting the moulded plug of will void the warranty.

Puzzles me why all manufacturers can't fit a basic kettle lead to the TV. At least the customer can go out and get another lead and customise it, cut it to the right length, cut the plug off whatever, they'd just have to keep the original one safe, just in case anything was to go wrong with the TV.

Non of the equipment I have has fixed mains to them, not even the TV.

Nigel Goodwin · 12-09-2008, 21:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deacon1972

How many will be buying these flat panels to fit on the wall, do they really think customers want to run new wiring and have sockets up the wall all because cutting the moulded plug of will void the warranty.

I'm still bemused why chopping the plug off helps?.

For the third time, if you don't want to fit a socket on the wall, use a trailing socket to plug the TV in, and a wire from that down the wall. Bear in mind, it's an advantage if the set can easily be removed.

Quote:

Puzzles me why all manufacturers can't fit a basic kettle lead to the TV.

It's called an IEC connector, not a 'kettle lead'

Most sets use either those or 'figure 8' leads, but the bottom of the range sets tend to use hard wired leads (as it saves money).

Deacon1972 · 13-09-2008, 09:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

I'm still bemused why chopping the plug off helps?.

For the third time, if you don't want to fit a socket on the wall, use a trailing socket to plug the TV in, and a wire from that down the wall. Bear in mind, it's an advantage if the set can easily be removed.

The OP wants to hang the display and have the wire/s hidden, it sounds like it's a stud wall and the plug won't fit down the back of the plasterboard.

Options are, cut the plug off, use plastic trunking or have the wire trailing down the wall.

Personally I don't want to see wires hanging down the wall or hidden in plastic trunking, as I suspect most don't who want a neat and tidy install.

I suppose they could make their own extension lead and have the socket at the back of the TV, that's providing there's enough room between the TV and wall and they are not using a flush fitting wall bracket.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

It's called an IEC connector, not a 'kettle lead'

Most sets use either those or 'figure 8' leads, but the bottom of the range sets tend to use hard wired leads (as it saves money).

I bet the OP will be glad to hear he has a bottom of the range Sony LCD.

Nigel Goodwin · 13-09-2008, 10:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deacon1972

The OP wants to hang the display and have the wire/s hidden, it sounds like it's a stud wall and the plug won't fit down the back of the plasterboard.

Options are, cut the plug off, use plastic trunking or have the wire trailing down the wall.

You missed the two first chioice options - fit a socket on the wall, or a trailing socket with a wire running down the wall.

Quote:

I suppose they could make their own extension lead and have the socket at the back of the TV, that's providing there's enough room between the TV and wall and they are not using a flush fitting wall bracket.

That's what a trailing socket is for - and even flush fitting brackets are far from flush - you design and mount according to what you are needing.

Quote:

I bet the OP will be glad to hear he has a bottom of the range Sony LCD.

He already knows from the price

Deacon1972 · 13-09-2008, 10:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

You missed the two first chioice options - fit a socket on the wall, or a trailing socket with a wire running down the wall.

When you said 'wire running down the wall' I assumed you meant the outside of the wall not the inside.

Is it only certain LCD's that have fixed mains because all the plasma TV's I have seen have detachable mains leads, not seen any plasma with fig8 leads either, they also seem to be more substantial leads to LCD as well, has it got something to do with the higher power plasma uses?

Nigel Goodwin · 13-09-2008, 11:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deacon1972

When you said 'wire running down the wall' I assumed you meant the outside of the wall not the inside.

Sorry, the inside

12-09-2008, 11:15	#1
SurreyStu Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 79	Fixed Plug / Power supply Hi I have just taken hold of a Sony LCD which i want to mount on my wall. The only problem is the power supply / plug is permanently fixed into the back of the lcd. This will probably cause an issue when i want to drop the cables down behind the wall as the plug is going to get caught on the inside of the wall.... Can i cut the plug off....drop the cable down the wall...pul it out of the bottom and then attach a new plug ? Is this ok?

12-09-2008, 11:26	#2
Willie Wontie Inactive Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,847	That's what you would do for anything else that has a moulded plug attached. Just make sure that the real plug you connect to the end after you have dropped the wire down the back has the same (or at least same size) fuse in it as the one in the moulded plug.

12-09-2008, 12:05	#3
Lurch Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sheffield Posts: 2,408	Quote: Originally Posted by Willie Wontie Just make sure that the real plug you connect to the end after you have dropped the wire down the back has the same (or at least same size) fuse in it as the one in the moulded plug. Right the first time, use the same size fuse, not one larger.

12-09-2008, 12:55	#4
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Best not to cut the plug off, it voids the warranty - either fit a socket on the wall, or a trailing socket to plug in to. Also if you have to remove the set for any reason, you don't want to be pulling a lead back up the wall.

12-09-2008, 13:49	#5
SurreyStu Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 79	i cant add a socket to the wall based on the eaves in my roof...the electrician can't run the cable down the wall as he can't get to the relevant space in the loft... i guess i'll just have to cut the plug off and then re-wire once i have dropped the cable down the cavity wall...

12-09-2008, 15:50	#6
Willie Wontie Inactive Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,847	Quote: Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin Best not to cut the plug off, it voids the warranty Almost all electrical equipment that you can buy which comes with a moulded plug attached specifically includes a tag or sticker reminding you that if you have to remove the plug then you should replace it with a removable plug with the same fuse in it. They wouldn't give you this reminder/warning if they didn't want you to do it. Sony may be different to the rest of the world - but I doubt it.

12-09-2008, 17:49	#7
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by Willie Wontie Almost all electrical equipment that you can buy which comes with a moulded plug attached specifically includes a tag or sticker reminding you that if you have to remove the plug then you should replace it with a removable plug with the same fuse in it. They wouldn't give you this reminder/warning if they didn't want you to do it. Sony may be different to the rest of the world - but I doubt it. What's Sony got to do with it?. Removing a fitted mains plug is modification of the TV, and voids the warranty - doesn't matter what make it is. Like I said above, use a trailing socket and a piece of cable to avoid cutting it off.

12-09-2008, 18:01	#8
Deacon1972 Guest Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 8,103	How many will be buying these flat panels to fit on the wall, do they really think customers want to run new wiring and have sockets up the wall all because cutting the moulded plug of will void the warranty. Puzzles me why all manufacturers can't fit a basic kettle lead to the TV. At least the customer can go out and get another lead and customise it, cut it to the right length, cut the plug off whatever, they'd just have to keep the original one safe, just in case anything was to go wrong with the TV. Non of the equipment I have has fixed mains to them, not even the TV.

12-09-2008, 21:52	#9
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by Deacon1972 How many will be buying these flat panels to fit on the wall, do they really think customers want to run new wiring and have sockets up the wall all because cutting the moulded plug of will void the warranty. I'm still bemused why chopping the plug off helps?. For the third time, if you don't want to fit a socket on the wall, use a trailing socket to plug the TV in, and a wire from that down the wall. Bear in mind, it's an advantage if the set can easily be removed. Quote: Puzzles me why all manufacturers can't fit a basic kettle lead to the TV. It's called an IEC connector, not a 'kettle lead' Most sets use either those or 'figure 8' leads, but the bottom of the range sets tend to use hard wired leads (as it saves money).

13-09-2008, 09:06	#10
Deacon1972 Guest Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 8,103	Quote: Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin I'm still bemused why chopping the plug off helps?. For the third time, if you don't want to fit a socket on the wall, use a trailing socket to plug the TV in, and a wire from that down the wall. Bear in mind, it's an advantage if the set can easily be removed. The OP wants to hang the display and have the wire/s hidden, it sounds like it's a stud wall and the plug won't fit down the back of the plasterboard. Options are, cut the plug off, use plastic trunking or have the wire trailing down the wall. Personally I don't want to see wires hanging down the wall or hidden in plastic trunking, as I suspect most don't who want a neat and tidy install. I suppose they could make their own extension lead and have the socket at the back of the TV, that's providing there's enough room between the TV and wall and they are not using a flush fitting wall bracket. Quote: Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin It's called an IEC connector, not a 'kettle lead' Most sets use either those or 'figure 8' leads, but the bottom of the range sets tend to use hard wired leads (as it saves money). I bet the OP will be glad to hear he has a bottom of the range Sony LCD.

13-09-2008, 10:42	#11
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by Deacon1972 The OP wants to hang the display and have the wire/s hidden, it sounds like it's a stud wall and the plug won't fit down the back of the plasterboard. Options are, cut the plug off, use plastic trunking or have the wire trailing down the wall. You missed the two first chioice options - fit a socket on the wall, or a trailing socket with a wire running down the wall. Quote: I suppose they could make their own extension lead and have the socket at the back of the TV, that's providing there's enough room between the TV and wall and they are not using a flush fitting wall bracket. That's what a trailing socket is for - and even flush fitting brackets are far from flush - you design and mount according to what you are needing. Quote: I bet the OP will be glad to hear he has a bottom of the range Sony LCD. He already knows from the price

13-09-2008, 10:56	#12
Deacon1972 Guest Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 8,103	Quote: Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin You missed the two first chioice options - fit a socket on the wall, or a trailing socket with a wire running down the wall. When you said 'wire running down the wall' I assumed you meant the outside of the wall not the inside. Is it only certain LCD's that have fixed mains because all the plasma TV's I have seen have detachable mains leads, not seen any plasma with fig8 leads either, they also seem to be more substantial leads to LCD as well, has it got something to do with the higher power plasma uses?

13-09-2008, 11:01	#13
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by Deacon1972 When you said 'wire running down the wall' I assumed you meant the outside of the wall not the inside. Sorry, the inside

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