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Brenden's extra lift
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alastair_r
14-09-2008
Can't they just throw him out if he does an extra lift . It relly annoys me he only does it for the tv if this was a real dance comp with e money he would go by the rules X
Eternal Life
14-09-2008
Throw him out, thats a bit harsh!
the_daddy
14-09-2008
Auto placement in bottom 2 would be better. He is a bad bad boy and I just hope this year he takes the rules a little more seriously.
smileycat
14-09-2008
Somehow I don't see that happening.
qwertyqueen
14-09-2008
It certainly isn't fair on his partner. Lisa is screwed(!) before she's even begun.
Icarus17
14-09-2008
There were two problems with what happened last year, one Brendan's fault for deliberately ignoring the rules, and defeating the entire point of the competition, which implies that you discipline yourself to perform within the rules for a particular dance; the other Bruno's for rewarding him for doing so. The direct result of that was that one of the best dancers was eliminated early (the marks were awarded in such a way that Bruno's marks changed the rankings. Without that, different couples would have been in the dance-off.). As soon as the third lift happened, if not disqualified, he and Kelly should automatically have been placed in the bottom two, and in my view that is what should happen should there be a repeat.
Annanyla
17-09-2008
Oooh yes we should be very harsh. After all think what's at stake!!!! How about a spanking?
DavidJames
17-09-2008
How about providing for a score of zero for deliberate breaking of the rules?

That'd allow people like Len to demonstrate his displeasure; if he truly had the guts for it (despite all his grumbling, he still gave Brendan an 8 for that routine - he seems physically incapable of finding a number below 5).

Also, it'd hit Brendan where it hurts - in the ego. He'd always be known as "Brendan null-points"...
katie_p
17-09-2008
I'd like to see it get zero... I still think people would vote it into safety, but it might make him think twice about constantly breaking the rules.

On the other hand I do think people should face the fact that the BBC are encouraging him to do it. If they didn't want a rule-breaker, they wouldn't renew his contract.
LauraD&L1
17-09-2008
Originally Posted by DavidJames:
“How about providing for a score of zero for deliberate breaking of the rules?

That'd allow people like Len to demonstrate his displeasure; if he truly had the guts for it (despite all his grumbling, he still gave Brendan an 8 for that routine - he seems physically incapable of finding a number below 5).

Also, it'd hit Brendan where it hurts - in the ego. He'd always be known as "Brendan null-points"...”

That to me is probably the best idea DavidJames. A score of zero would probably make them really realise the extent of stupidity in breaking the rules.

I quite like Brendan but was furious when he did that and then his attitude afterwards too I felt like it was a bit of a slap in the face for all the other pro's & celebs, especially after Bruno's 10!!
kaycee
17-09-2008
Originally Posted by alastair_r:
“Can't they just throw him out if he does an extra lift . It relly annoys me he only does it for the tv if this was a real dance comp with e money he would go by the rules X”

But that's the point isn't it? It's NOT a real dance competition, it's classed as 'light entertainment'.

And if anyone should have been penalised for Brendan's extra lift it should have been Bruno for giving him a 10..... perhaps he should be thrown out as well!
katie_p
17-09-2008
Originally Posted by kaycee:
“But that's the point isn't it? It's NOT a real dance competition, it's classed as 'light entertainment'.

And if anyone should have been penalised for Brendan's extra lift it should have been Bruno for giving him a 10..... perhaps he should be thrown out as well!”

Yes please!
Endemoniada
17-09-2008
If a dancer breaks the 'rules', then the 'rules' must state unequivocally what happens to that dancer...surely? Otherwise the 'rules' are not much good...are they?

Where are these 'rules' of Strictly Come Dancing that everyone keeps going on about? Let's have a look at them and put an end to all the pointless debate.

Somebody must be able to produce them.
katie_p
17-09-2008
The rules are stated by Len at the start of every series:

No lifts in any dance unless stated (and they specifically say, two in AS week, three in AT week, unlimited in the showdance). Also ballroom dances apart from AS must be in hold except for the start and end of the routine.
The_abbott
17-09-2008
his head on a stick please!

Len promised us last year!
Wiz Net
17-09-2008
Originally Posted by kaycee:
“But that's the point isn't it? It's NOT a real dance competition, it's classed as 'light entertainment'.”

Then why have expert judges? If it is just light entertainment and the rules don't matter lets just have a celebrity judging panel.

Graham Norton would be a great replacement for Arlene.
lightdragon
17-09-2008
Originally Posted by DavidJames:
“How about providing for a score of zero for deliberate breaking of the rules?

That'd allow people like Len to demonstrate his displeasure; if he truly had the guts for it (despite all his grumbling, he still gave Brendan an 8 for that routine - he seems physically incapable of finding a number below 5).

Also, it'd hit Brendan where it hurts - in the ego. He'd always be known as "Brendan null-points"...”

I've always had the feeling that Brendan doesn't do it because he can, but rather that it's "what the public want".

So the judges automatically scoring zero is a great idea. Then the public can decide.

The rest of the professionals continue to abide by the rules, and if Brendan isn't punished in some way, then why should they bother? It will become a free for all.
Kyle123
17-09-2008
I agree that giving him zero if he does it again is the best rule. I think its wrong that other couples, eg Gabby and James last year ended up going home despite others breaking rules that week. (I think it was that week anyway!)
Wiz Net
17-09-2008
Is anyone else just so bored of brendan and Lisa already. She has a crush on him apparently :yawn: Sooner they go out the better in my view.

Brendan is a fab dancer but all this not wanting to play by the rules, flirting and rubbish gets on my nerves. I think after last year the Great British Public may just see sense. Hope so anyway!!!!
katmobile
17-09-2008
In theory a great idea until I think about what I would have done had they actually done it. The thing is that Kelly and Bren's AS was a great dance - best of the night probably - so had I been at home in front of the telly (I was at a wedding when this happened) would I have voted for them to stay in because Kelly was a talented dancer and it was a great dance and give Brendan the justification for continuing to rule break on the grounds the public supported him or would I have refrained to each Brendan a lesson that breaking the rules wasn't cool and risk having this talented couple and forcing the judges into the same diliemna - tricky one

I think the better solution might be to either kick him out of the competition all together for that year (at least as a dancer he could still choreograph for his celeb provided he doesn't try to do again) or to give his celeb to an already evicted male dancer for a week (obviously if he does it the first ladies night and someone like Darren or Vincent gets evicted that night then you have a problem but I'm sure you could work around it). That just might show him.
jjackson42
17-09-2008
Originally Posted by Wiz Net:
“Is anyone else just so bored of brendan and Lisa already. She has a crush on him apparently :yawn: Sooner they go out the better in my view.

Brendan is a fab dancer but all this not wanting to play by the rules, flirting and rubbish gets on my nerves. I think after last year the Great British Public may just see sense. Hope so anyway!!!!”

My thoughts too! While admiring his skill, he is just a complete tit at times!!!!!!

JJ
missfrankiecat
17-09-2008
Originally Posted by Endemoniada:
“If a dancer breaks the 'rules', then the 'rules' must state unequivocally what happens to that dancer...surely? Otherwise the 'rules' are not much good...are they?

Where are these 'rules' of Strictly Come Dancing that everyone keeps going on about? Let's have a look at them and put an end to all the pointless debate.

Somebody must be able to produce them.”

Exactly. People need to realise that these 'controversies' are hatched up by the production team to build ratings and the celebs and pros are just pawns in the game [if they know what's good for their career!] If Brendan really broke an important rule then it was up to the judges to penalise him properly. They didn't so it's no good blaming him for doing something that paid off.
missfrankiecat
17-09-2008
Originally Posted by jjackson42:
“My thoughts too! While admiring his skill, he is just a complete tit at times!!!!!!

JJ”

JJ - you've wandered far from home! How goes it?
saggy1
17-09-2008
Please this year,could all the Brendan dislikers spell his name right?!Everyone is entitled to their opinion of him,but it would be nice if everyone got his name right...
He is Brendan,not Brenden,or Brendon.
Thank you!

Also,don't you think it's because it IS tv that he breaks the rules?If you label someone 'bad' they tend to enjoy living up to their label for the fun of it...
Puffle
17-09-2008
Originally Posted by Wiz Net:
“Is anyone else just so bored of brendan and Lisa already. She has a crush on him apparently :yawn: Sooner they go out the better in my view.

Brendan is a fab dancer but all this not wanting to play by the rules, flirting and rubbish gets on my nerves. I think after last year the Great British Public may just see sense. Hope so anyway!!!!”

I'm amazed that you and others can't see how much the BBC manipulate this - as someone else said above, if the dancers know what's good for them they play along with the pantomimes the BBC production staff hatch up to keep the ratings high - all the pro dancers realise they're only as good as the series they're working on (just look at poor Nicole and what happened to her) so of course he's going to play along.

I cannot believe that almost a year after the event this is still being dragged up - surely it's time to move on and look forward to a new series of great dancing and the highs and lows that come with any competition
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