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I'm Heartbroken,Our Sweetheart Cat Was Killed Today
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Loubychew
27-09-2008
So sorry for your loss. Kitties do truly become part of the family and the pain is so acute when they go.

I lost a kitten 2 years ago, my neighbour killed him (I live in Cyprus where cats are not really liked). I moved house because of it. Then I got another needy kitty, there are 100's here. Now I have 3 and I would not be without them.

No other kitty can replace the one that is gone but for me the only way I could move forward after I lost my Gizmo was to get another as soon as possible. It sounds harsh but for me, I needed something to focus on and give my love to.

Big hugs. Take the comments from non cat lovers with a pinch of salt.
overunder
27-09-2008
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kizzie
27-09-2008
Originally Posted by 3 Second Memory:
“Your experience speaks volumes and other people/non-emotionals should definately keep their opinions to themselves and will have a different opinion when they have experienced life!!”


I've experienced more life than you will probably ever know.


Yes its sad when a loved pet dies and yes I felt your pain when you told us.

but why when anyone posts on DS about a pet dying or is ill , it becomes a howling, chest beating ,wallowfest .

No , I don't get it and never will. But luckily I never get to see this in the real world, it seems to stay within the walls of DS thank goodness .
shardlake
27-09-2008
Originally Posted by kizzie:
“I've experienced more life than you will probably ever know.


Yes its sad when a loved pet dies and yes I felt your pain when you told us.

but why when anyone posts on DS about a pet dying or is ill , it becomes a howling, chest beating ,wallowfest .

No , I don't get it and never will. But luckily I never get to see this in the real world, it seems to stay within the walls of DS thank goodness .
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It's because people click on a thread that they're interested so obviously cat lovers will be drawn to these threads and offer sympathy and support.
Just like if you go to the vets it'll be full of animal lovers, it's people who can relate to one another gatheing together a sub-section, perfectly reasonable .
CubeMistress
27-09-2008
Im so sorry to hear about your loss,it is so upsetting and heartbreaking to loss an member of the family weather it is a cat or dog etc or your relatives

I lost my jack russell 9 years ago the same way and still miss him to this day pets are great characters

Time heals all and i really do wish you and your family all the best.
pixieboots
27-09-2008
Originally Posted by kizzie:
“I've experienced more life than you will probably ever know.


Yes its sad when a loved pet dies and yes I felt your pain when you told us.

but why when anyone posts on DS about a pet dying or is ill , it becomes a howling, chest beating ,wallowfest .

No , I don't get it and never will. But luckily I never get to see this in the real world, it seems to stay within the walls of DS thank goodness .”

Kizzie I'm not adressing this to just you directly but your quote illustrates why some other posters object to some of the replies 3SM has had
Everyone experiences bereavement differently, sometimes you can bury your grief for a human loved one without dealing with it fully at the time, especially if you are the family "coper" you go about your business for months or years thinking you have dealt with things. Then you lose a pet and somehow all those feelings of loss you have buried bubble up and become entangled with the loss of a pet. This is quite common -I'm not saying this is the case with 3SM but it certainly happened to me. I couldn't express my grief at losing my Grand mother as I was too busy watching her die a slow lingering death in undignified circumstances and the end seemed merciful. I now know I couldn't express my grief fully as I felt guilty and selfish about "denying" her that release wholeheartedly- silly but thats the human mind, it works on all sorts of levels. I wasn't aware of this until years later when I lost a cat and was paralysed by grief and felt I was going insane

Also some people genuinely feel a very strong bond of love with their pets, I see that a positive thing, I welcome love in any shape or form into my life, there isn't enough of it in this world. 3SM's grief and the sympathy other pet lovers have shown her doesn't diminish anyone elses grief, her anger is understandable as the boy racer could just as easily hit a child or any other human. Compassion is infinite, it won't run out if you "waste" it.
3 Second Memory
28-09-2008
Originally Posted by pixieboots:
“Kizzie I'm not adressing this to just you directly but your quote illustrates why some other posters object to some of the replies 3SM has had
Everyone experiences bereavement differently, sometimes you can bury your grief for a human loved one without dealing with it fully at the time, especially if you are the family "coper" you go about your business for months or years thinking you have dealt with things. Then you lose a pet and somehow all those feelings of loss you have buried bubble up and become entangled with the loss of a pet. This is quite common -I'm not saying this is the case with 3SM but it certainly happened to me. I couldn't express my grief at losing my Grand mother as I was too busy watching her die a slow lingering death in undignified circumstances and the end seemed merciful. I now know I couldn't express my grief fully as I felt guilty and selfish about "denying" her that release wholeheartedly- silly but thats the human mind, it works on all sorts of levels. I wasn't aware of this until years later when I lost a cat and was paralysed by grief and felt I was going insane

Also some people genuinely feel a very strong bond of love with their pets, I see that a positive thing, I welcome love in any shape or form into my life, there isn't enough of it in this world. 3SM's grief and the sympathy other pet lovers have shown her doesn't diminish anyone elses grief, her anger is understandable as the boy racer could just as easily hit a child or any other human. Compassion is infinite, it won't run out if you "waste" it.”

Thank you so much pixieboots, you take the words right out of my mouth, I'm so sorry for all you have been through and I really admire you positivity
3 Second Memory
28-09-2008
Originally Posted by kizzie:
“I've experienced more life than you will probably ever know.


Yes its sad when a loved pet dies and yes I felt your pain when you told us.

but why when anyone posts on DS about a pet dying or is ill , it becomes a howling, chest beating ,wallowfest .

No , I don't get it and never will. But luckily I never get to see this in the real world, it seems to stay within the walls of DS thank goodness .”

I think you have made a little mistake in telling me that you've experienced more life than I will probably know!

I had the most horrendous childhood in ways that I really don't want to talk about at the moment, but believe me if we're talking experience then I never want to go there ever again! I struggle each day to maintain a good solid base and huge love for my hubby and my boy! However, I am talking here of the loss of an animal which has been devestating for all of us.

Maybe if you can't stand the wailing and beating of chests, then you could be on the wrong thread?
Faeden
28-09-2008
I am sorry for the original poster that he or she has lost there pet. I hope you feel better soon.

For anyone doubting that pets live on after their death, I promise you they do go on, I have had personal proof 100%, I know I can't prove it to you, but I know it for a fact, you will see them again.

Anyway, here is something that helped me when I lost my dog Star. You have probably seen it, its quite common.

LINK
3 Second Memory
28-09-2008
Originally Posted by Faeden:
“I am sorry for the original poster that he or she has lost there pet. I hope you feel better soon.

For anyone doubting that pets live on after their death, I promise you they do go on, I have had personal proof 100%, I know I can't prove it to you, but I know it for a fact, you will see them again.

Anyway, here is something that helped me when I lost my dog Star. You have probably seen it, its quite common.

LINK”

Thank you so much for that link, this is what I believe too, they are such lovely comforting words and I totally believe this. Thank you I will PM you in a moment to explain more
pixieboots
28-09-2008
Originally Posted by 3 Second Memory:
“Thank you so much pixieboots, you take the words right out of my mouth, I'm so sorry for all you have been through and I really admire you positivity ”

Thank you 3SM Things will get better for you, keep hanging on to that thought, I look back on those bad times and think how much I got from that particular little cat and despite the grief I felt for him I am very grateful he came into my life at all. Without him I could still be living in a fog. I'll never forget him but now I can think of him and sometimes be sad but without getting very upset. We can learn from animals as well as people imo
3 Second Memory
28-09-2008
Originally Posted by pixieboots:
“Thank you 3SM Things will get better for you, keep hanging on to that thought, I look back on those bad times and think how much I got from that particular little cat and despite the grief I felt for him I am very grateful he came into my life at all. Without him I could still be living in a fog. I'll never forget him but now I can think of him and sometimes be sad but without getting very upset. We can learn from animals as well as people imo ”

Absolutely! I found my Dad dead in the chair at home and I've been so broken for years, but I can talk about him fondly now as my best friend. I'm learning also from my cat now and have learned from other people very close to me dying too or being killed.
Thanks lots and lots pixie boots
3 Second Memory
28-09-2008
Originally Posted by Faeden:
“I am sorry for the original poster that he or she has lost there pet. I hope you feel better soon.

For anyone doubting that pets live on after their death, I promise you they do go on, I have had personal proof 100%, I know I can't prove it to you, but I know it for a fact, you will see them again.

Anyway, here is something that helped me when I lost my dog Star. You have probably seen it, its quite common.

LINK”


Hope my PM reached you, I wrote for about 10 minutes! but when I submitted it told me I was logged out... I'm so cross! I will have to have a word with DS if you didn't receive it, let me know!
Faeden
28-09-2008
Originally Posted by 3 Second Memory:
“Hope my PM reached you, I wrote for about 10 minutes! but when I submitted it told me I was logged out... I'm so cross! I will have to have a word with DS if you didn't receive it, let me know!”


Hi there.

Yes it reached me OK. Thanks you for it, I replied to you.
3 Second Memory
28-09-2008
Originally Posted by Faeden:
“Hi there.

Yes it reached me OK. Thanks you for it, I replied to you.”

Thanks I replied to you too
Radiomaniac
28-09-2008
I really do object to that 'I've experienced more life than you will probably ever know' comment, in relation to this thread.

We have all had things happen to us.

I had a boyfriend who got knocked down and killed by a bus.
Like a post above states, I also found my Dad dead, after a short illness.
I watched my Mum die in hospital.
I nearly lost my brother earlier this year due to a serious illness.
Someone very close to me has severe medical problems that I won't go into here.
And other things I won't/don't need to go into.

I'm not saying all this for sympathy - most people here have had all sorts of things happen to them, similar to this.

It's called 'life' and happens to all of us, not just the select few.

I still say that the death of my dog caused me more pain - whoever doesn't like me saying that - tough! It's the truth.

I got a chance to speak to my Dad before he died. My Dad, my Mum and my boyfriend knew I loved them as I told them often enough.

My dog died suddenly and alone, even if I was there I couldn't have made him understand. I think that's the difference.

People should accept that others react like this, without condemnation - as I said before - we are not all the same. It doesn't make our love of humans any less than theirs.
Radiomaniac
28-09-2008
Originally Posted by 3 Second Memory:
“Hope my PM reached you, I wrote for about 10 minutes! but when I submitted it told me I was logged out... I'm so cross! I will have to have a word with DS if you didn't receive it, let me know!”

That happens to me all the time 3SM, it did it just now!

What I do now is copy the text I've written, in case it 'disappears'.
3 Second Memory
28-09-2008
Originally Posted by Radiomaniac:
“I really do object to that 'I've experienced more life than you will probably ever know' comment, in relation to this thread.

We have all had things happen to us.

I had a boyfriend who got knocked down and killed by a bus.
Like a post above states, I also found my Dad dead, after a short illness.
I watched my Mum die in hospital.
I nearly lost my brother earlier this year due to a serious illness.
Someone very close to me has severe medical problems that I won't go into here.
And other things I won't/don't need to go into.

I'm not saying all this for sympathy - most people here have had all sorts of things happen to them, similar to this.

It's called 'life' and happens to all of us, not just the select few.

I still say that the death of my dog caused me more pain - whoever doesn't like me saying that - tough! It's the truth.

I got a chance to speak to my Dad before he died. My Dad, my Mum and my boyfriend knew I loved them as I told them often enough.

My dog died suddenly and alone, even if I was there I couldn't have made him understand. I think that's the difference.

People should accept that others react like this, without condemnation - as I said before - we are not all the same. It doesn't make our love of humans any less than theirs.”

You're absolutely right, there wasn't any need for those ridiculous comments, they were meant for another thread.
I'm so sorry that all those horrible things have happened to you too.

I've got a list too, but I'm just not in the frame of mind to discuss now but I will let you now later at some point.

I'm so sorry your dog died alone, like my cat, it's so so horrible, Like you I had the chance to talk to my Dad (for hours on end) before I left the house and came back to find him dead in the chair. It's devestating!

I didn't have a chance to say goodbye to our cat before she was killed and she was a member of our family, it's so so sad
Doll Feet
28-09-2008
Originally Posted by 3 Second Memory:
“Hope my PM reached you, I wrote for about 10 minutes! but when I submitted it told me I was logged out... I'm so cross! I will have to have a word with DS if you didn't receive it, let me know!”

Now I'm wondering about the pm you said you'd send me. Didn't get it 3SM.
Bendy Wendy
28-09-2008
Look, I'm sorry your cat was killed and I'm also sorry for the others in this thread who have lost pets, but it doesn't give you the right to criticise other peoples' opinions and comments that don't necessarily agree with yours. I have held back from responding to your remarks about thoughtlessness and lacking in natural empathy, out of respect for your loss ( Ironic?) but please don't think it gives you carte blanche to imply that only posters that sympathise with you can post!

If you want a thread to be a kind of shrine to lost pets where people can support each other that's fine (it's probably a really good idea given the number of threads there have been on this subject over the last few weeks) but if you introduce more controversial remarks (boy racers being just one example) and people start to discuss that (it being a discussion forum 'n all) then you can't revert back to the safety of your 'shrine thread' just because it may not be what you want to hear!
HollyC
28-09-2008
Originally Posted by Bendy Wendy:
“But that's a whole different argument.

And after just going out in my garden to peg out some washing and find yet another load of cat poo, I think it's the cat owners that are thoughtless.”

Originally Posted by Bendy Wendy:
“Look, I'm sorry your cat was killed and I'm also sorry for the others in this thread who have lost pets, but it doesn't give you the right to criticise other peoples' opinions and comments that don't necessarily agree with yours. I have held back from responding to your remarks about thoughtlessness and lacking in natural empathy, out of respect for your loss ( Ironic?) but please don't think it gives you carte blanche to imply that only posters that sympathise with you can post!

If you want a thread to be a kind of shrine to lost pets where people can support each other that's fine (it's probably a really good idea given the number of threads there have been on this subject over the last few weeks) but if you introduce more controversial remarks (boy racers being just one example) and people start to discuss that (it being a discussion forum 'n all) then you can't revert back to the safety of your 'shrine thread' just because it may not be what you want to hear!”

And yet, after reading the title of the thread, you decided to post complaining about cat poo in your garden! Did you really think that was appropriate at the time? There are already threads with people complaining about cat poo - why didn't you post your original comment in one of those?
Threads like these are not "shrines" to lost pets - they are a place where people can offer sympathy and understanding, to try and help people who are grieving.
kizzie
28-09-2008
Originally Posted by 3 Second Memory:
“I think you have made a little mistake in telling me that you've experienced more life than I will probably know!

I had the most horrendous childhood in ways that I really don't want to talk about at the moment, but believe me if we're talking experience then I never want to go there ever again! I struggle each day to maintain a good solid base and huge love for my hubby and my boy! However, I am talking here of the loss of an animal which has been devestating for all of us.

Maybe if you can't stand the wailing and beating of chests, then you could be on the wrong thread?”

If you look at the post I quoted , I think you will find that you started the pissing contest !
kizzie
28-09-2008
Originally Posted by Radiomaniac:
“I really do object to that 'I've experienced more life than you will probably ever know' comment, in relation to this thread.

We have all had things happen to us.

I had a boyfriend who got knocked down and killed by a bus.
Like a post above states, I also found my Dad dead, after a short illness.
I watched my Mum die in hospital.
I nearly lost my brother earlier this year due to a serious illness.
Someone very close to me has severe medical problems that I won't go into here.
And other things I won't/don't need to go into.

I'm not saying all this for sympathy - most people here have had all sorts of things happen to them, similar to this.

It's called 'life' and happens to all of us, not just the select few.

I still say that the death of my dog caused me more pain - whoever doesn't like me saying that - tough! It's the truth.

I got a chance to speak to my Dad before he died. My Dad, my Mum and my boyfriend knew I loved them as I told them often enough.

My dog died suddenly and alone, even if I was there I couldn't have made him understand. I think that's the difference.

People should accept that others react like this, without condemnation - as I said before - we are not all the same. It doesn't make our love of humans any less than theirs.”

Then maybe you too should look at the post I was quoting when I made that remark ?
Bendy Wendy
28-09-2008
[quote=HollyC;27807006]And yet, after reading the title of the thread, you decided to post complaining about cat poo in your garden! Did you really think that was appropriate at the time? There are already threads with people complaining about cat poo - why didn't you post your original comment in one of those?
Threads like these are not "shrines" to lost pets - they are a place where people can offer sympathy and understanding, to try and help people who are grieving.[/QUOTE]




No. Please keep my comments in context. I didn't decide to post in a thread about the death of someone's cat just to complain about cat poo which is what you're trying to infer. My comment was made as an additional remark regarding thoughtlessness although, had there been a thread about thoughtless cat owners around at the time, I might have posted in that.

And as for your last comment which I've highlighted, have you read this thread? It is absolutely a shrine!! Yes, there's lots of sympathy and understanding offered, there's also lots of support which is admirable. But it's unfair to throw remarks around about other posters' comments and not let those posters defend themselves because this isn't the 'right thread for that'. I'm simply saying you can't have it both ways.
*Ugly_Betty*
28-09-2008
For Fcuk sake people get a grip! Its a cat.

Yes, pets are part of the family and its heartbreaking to lose one but to compare it to losing a mother, father, child or other close relative is just beyond me.

For all the people who said that losing a pet is worse than losing a relative, seriously, you should go to your GP because thats not normal and you may have underlying "Issues" as to why you feel that way.
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