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Old 27-09-2008, 21:44
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Anyone else get really annoyed by Rachel tonight and the way the judges kept heaping praise on her?

She is an Amy Winehouse rip-off with a massive chip-on her shoulder and attitude.

There are more humble and better singers than her which deserve more praise from the judges.

The only reason why Simon and Co, are letting Rachel through is because they KNOW she will be controversial, which will bring in column inches and ratings.
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Old 27-09-2008, 21:45
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Can't agree that's why she's through. I genuinely think the woman can sing.
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Old 27-09-2008, 21:47
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disagree, love the girl shes amazing. enough said!
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Old 27-09-2008, 21:48
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She hid it well tonight then.

She makes good TV.....reformed drug addict blah, blah, blah. Just another sob story
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Old 27-09-2008, 21:48
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She has amazing talent, thats why shes through. If she had that attitude and was average she wouldnt be through, end of.
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Old 27-09-2008, 21:50
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Anyone else get really annoyed by Rachel tonight and the way the judges kept heaping praise on her?

She is an Amy Winehouse rip-off with a massive chip-on her shoulder and attitude.

There are more humble and better singers than her which deserve more praise from the judges.

The only reason why Simon and Co, are letting Rachel through is because they KNOW she will be controversial, which will bring in column inches and ratings.
I couldn't agree with you more. I haven't seen any of the papers though as I've been on holiday.

I cannot stand her already and I've only seen her twice. That's twice too many.
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Old 27-09-2008, 21:52
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She has amazing talent, thats why shes through. If she had that attitude and was average she wouldnt be through, end of.
I must be listening to a different Rachel from you
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Old 27-09-2008, 21:53
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She's fabulous.

Her problem is that there's a lot of talent on the show this year, which makes having attitude a dangerous thing.
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Old 27-09-2008, 21:53
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I liked her in her first audition.

In her second, two things bothered me:
- STOP SHOUTING! You don't have to yell the entire song. Loud vocals have better dramatic effect when there are parts that aren't loud
- Advice. take it. Shut the hell up.
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Old 27-09-2008, 21:53
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I need to hear more from her to make my mind up. I liked her in the auditions but not tonight and her outburst also distracted me from her voice.
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Old 27-09-2008, 21:54
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i think simon cowell knows what he is talkin about when its comes to singing to quote 'she is one of the best singers weve had on this show' or something along those lines, i think shes brilliant she just needs some coaching in the attittude department thats all,
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Old 27-09-2008, 21:56
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She's fabulous.

Her problem is that there's a lot of talent on the show this year, which makes having attitude a dangerous thing.
I'm gonna have to listen again then, because to me, tonight, it was nasally and not great.

She does have a great story though.....if only she was a bin man now she'd be assured of a place in the last 12
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Old 27-09-2008, 21:58
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i think simon cowell knows what he is talkin about when its comes to singing
I don't think so. This is the same man that didn't sign Take That and completely overlooked Will Young.
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Old 27-09-2008, 22:02
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She learnt her lesson by simon nearly not putting her through, the public are fickle.. trust me they will soon forget about this episode.
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Old 27-09-2008, 22:03
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OMG...she ruined that song!
It was unregonisable at first, was it meant to be Keane's 'Chasing Cars' or what? And that whole 'diva' thing in the middle calling out "Stop, wait, can i start again. you're playing too fast." She's played the sympathy card, with her past, isn't that enough?

She needs to take a page out of Austin Drage's book about making a song your own. He really did THE ZUTONS justice (not Amy Winehouse, not Mark Ronson, but the Zutons), with his version of Valerie.
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Old 27-09-2008, 22:04
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once they see rachel do a completely different song i think she be fine, this was just a slip up, yes she let herself down and she even said herself cos she nearly didnt go through and i bet you it was edited BIG TIME
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Old 27-09-2008, 22:06
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OMG...she ruined that song!
It was unregonisable at first, was it meant to be Keane's 'Chasing Cars' or what? And that whole 'diva' thing in the middle calling out "Stop, wait, can i start again. you're playing too fast." She's played the sympathy card, with her past, isn't that enough?

She needs to take a page out of Austin Drage's book about making a song your own. He really did THE ZUTONS justice (not Amy Winehouse, not Mark Ronson, but the Zutons), with his version of Valerie.
Nah. It was meant to be an original arrangement of Snow Patrol's Chasing Cars.
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Old 27-09-2008, 22:08
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I really think that the response to Simon seemed a bit too focussed on. Editing...I'm sure of it. I thought Rachel was more rude when she spoke to the piano player.

I think we may be in danger of throwing the baby out with the bath water. Rachel can sing. Really well. It's the X Factor and yet some of the crit of Rachel would be more at home in BB, IMO.
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Old 27-09-2008, 22:08
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shes just very defensive because of her past lifestyle.

I think she learnt her lesson.

shes good but a bit ovverated.
theres better left,theres worse left.
she wont win anyway.
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Old 27-09-2008, 22:10
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I hate how they keep trying to make her past into a sob story. It just puts me off her more. She really irritated me tonight as well.
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Old 27-09-2008, 22:11
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She has amazing talent, thats why shes through. If she had that attitude and was average she wouldnt be through, end of.
Not really. If this was America's Next Top Model (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4gxy43...eature=related) then maybe.

But this is the X Factor, relies on lots of publicity, at the expense of Cowell getting more money, especially when it comes to female contestants. Of course Tyra cares about the attention and money, she's "nice" "moral" and all that crap.
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Old 27-09-2008, 22:14
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No Rachel is not an Amy Winehouse wannabe she is a natural.

Winehouse as a matter of fact Amy's voice is not natural for me any way. I have said this many times. Winehouse is a good mimic of black music in my opinion.

I thought what Rachel sang tonight was just excellent. Loved her version.

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Old 27-09-2008, 22:18
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Her live shows, if she gets through (I don't know) will either be electric or a car crash. She could be the new Rowetta...

Her attitude stinks though.
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Old 27-09-2008, 22:19
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incredible talent - bad decisions, bad lifestyle - completely messed up - may take years to straighten out - but a fabulous voice

she will not take rejection well at this level sadly

I hope she doesnt have to, but even if she fails here if she can keep focused and not fall someone will pick her up - that voice cant be let go and wasted
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Old 27-09-2008, 22:19
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I dunno, i hope rachel can overcome this little cock up and just get on with her amazing singing, and i hope the public see over this because i do think editing played a part in this,

at the end of the day her talent is raw and she can sing amazingly her voice is dead powerful she just needs someone to take her under their wing and she needs to learn to trust people. i think given the right mentor and songs and warmth she will be ok. but right now she needs to think about it and just learn to take the critiscm and let it ride over her head and learn from it, shes not a bad person she just needs some guidence obviously, im in no way going to think about her past or what shes done cos imo shes did the crime and shes done the time and it should all be left in the past where it belongs, she is obviously a different person now so i think those small minded people should give her a chance.
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