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BB Editing!
Having the option to now watch it pretty much 24 hours on E4 and then turning over to Channel 4 to watch the half hour show, how to people rate Channel 4's editing skills to ensure that the public get an accurate impression of the housemates.
I personally think from watching the live feed and C4 that the producers very much have an aggenda and present certain people in much better ways than others. If you were watching the live feed in the early hours of the 14th (the big argument night), I personally thought that Brian was totally out of order and attacked Josh with such venum that it was pure evil. We then switch over to the Channel 4 edited version who conveniently choose the sections where Brian was being rational with Josh and finish off with an emotional comment from Brian in the diary room saying that he feels bad. (Incidently today, he has been exactly the same with Josh as he was before!) Am I the only one who can't stand this smug little sh*t, and what's this about the nation absolutely loves him - underneath that surface that cracks jokes is a spoilt child (by his own admission) who is immature and devious. He tries sooo hard to comand attention, has temper tantrums and admits that he always gets his own way. AAARRRRGGGHHHH!!!!!! |
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Yup, I agree with you. Still, I think a lot of people do really like him.
The bits we see on Channel 4 do seem to paint a very different picture to watching the whole thing, but I suppose it HAS to in the end doesn't it, it would be difficult not to take one side or another in an argument like the one last night, so if the editor has taken Brian's side, then I suppose you'd expect the program to reflect that. I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying it's understandable. Mark |
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There is no way on earth you could accurately condense last nights events into a 30 minute show. Especially since the Thursday show covers two days.
The producers stick to certain story lines as it's their job to make the show as interesting as possible. If you have watched the live stuff on E4 most of it is just boring stuff. For example if you want to give a typical representation of Helen then you'd just see her sunning herself in the garden, that's all she seems to do most of the day. Not exactly compelling viewing though. I thought the mood of last night was put across as well as it could. It didn't show Stuart creeping around as much as he was though. Also at the end it pretty much summed up how Brian felt and that he was sorry. Maybe what he did was wrong. But it would also be wrong for the producers to put across his bitchyness without any follow up. I expect that there will be more footage over the weekend in the recaps. Noel |
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The C4 programme gave me the impression that BB are trying to protect both Brian and Stuart -- understandably (if not forgivably) as they both provide good entertainment value (Brian through his pseudo-jokey bitchiness and Stuart through his sh*t-stirring). What struck me was that the BBLB coverage appeared to be far more balanced, containing clips of both people at their worst. This in a programme still 30 minutes in length but mostly devoted to trivia and phone-ins.
I can believe that Brian was genuinely sorry. For the way he acted before the cameras. I'm afraid that I tend to agree with Deemo's opinion of him. Brian does appear to be immature and egocentric, reminding me more of a spoilt seven year old than a man seven years over the age of consent. If the public do indeed "love" him, I suspect it's largely due to his camp persona, a desexualised cheeky stereotype developed over generations as a defence against homophobia[0].[COLOR=purple]H.[/COLOR] [0] The camp image reduces the perceived threat to other males by being both a figure of fun and symbolically castrated, despite those camp homosexuals who are into buggery[1] being as likely to enjoy penetrating as being penetrated. This doesn't mean, however, that campness is always deliberate. Many men who identify as homosexual consider themselves naturally effeminate for reasons that I won't go into here for fear of getting even further off-topic. Camp men also appear to stimulate feelings of maternal protectiveness among women, although I've yet to find a reasonable eplanation for this.[1] As Josh (himself conforming to another gay stereotype) pointed out soon after his arrival, not all homosexual men are into buggery. Indeed, around a third aren't, and in terms of absolute numbers (and against popular misconception) buggery is more a heterosexual practice than a homosexual one. Helen isn't particularly unusual.
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I'm afraid that I tend to agree with Deemo's opinion of him. Brian does appear to be immature and egocentric, reminding me more of a spoilt seven year old than a man seven years over the age of consent. If the public do indeed "love" him, I suspect it's largely due to his camp persona, a desexualised cheeky stereotype developed over generations as a defence against homophobia[0].
Camp men also appear to stimulate feelings of maternal protectiveness among women, although I've yet to find a reasonable eplanation for this.