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Why is it not illegal to poison slugs
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O'Neill
07-10-2008
Its legal in the US, but not in the UK to feed live vertebrate animals (like mice) they are bought frozen. Permission may be given for species that are naturally very picky eaters though, and would otherwise die if not offered live mice (most wild caught snakes for example) Petshops can even refuse to sell mice (and fish) to anyone they suspect of feeding them to other animals, if they buy one or two mice or goldfish every few days for example. At least some of the shops Ive been in have.

Im not sure what would be classed as unnessary suffering to an invertebrate? (as much as I like invertebrates, since I keep plenty of them) would placing a cricket in a tank of water to be eaten by a Mudskipper be classed as unnessary suffering? since that is one of the reasons they are sold for. Or an Assassin Bug drinking its insides injecting a very painful toxin in the process? if it were a live mouse it would be illegal, but not a cricket or locust.

I think its because that its proven that Mice (and animals with a backbone) can feel pain and fear, it isnt proven for Invertebrates. Though I wouldnt feed Millipedes, Tarantula's, Scorpions etc.. to other animals, its probably because I have grown up feeding crickets and locusts, if I kept them as pets when I was younger I probably would have a problem with it.

I clicked off that link as soon as I saw it was a captive situtation. Feeding live mice to any similary sized animal is not only cruel to the mouse, but can also be very dangerous to the snake, spider, centipede etc.. if the mouse tries to defend itself, which it is capable of doing. Its purely for the enjoyment of the person, I find it very disturbing. (I know thats a little hypocritical since I feed crickets, but I find no enjoyment in watching my animals eat them, and dont even see them eat them most of the time let alone film it and put it on youtube.)
takeyourpick
07-10-2008
Originally Posted by tomharry2:
“But cats dont accidentally wander. They have set walks at night that take them about 2 miles from their home and they follow their sent trails set the previous night. Cats have been shown to walk the same paths night after night, weeing at their markers and defecating in same spots (which always happen to be someone elses garden).

Some responsible owners dont alloow cats outside at night and lock the flaps.

If dog owners are expected to pick up the poo then cat owners get off very lightly imo”

Well, you wouldn't sh!t in your own would you?!
takeyourpick
07-10-2008
Originally Posted by acoolwelshbloke:
“My next door neighbour has two cats, bloody things keep crapping all over my garden so much so my children are unable to play there anymore!

I can tell you i have considered drowning the bloody pests a couple of times!!”

Try putting something in their way so they can't get into your garden. If you remove access they're likely to change their route and go into another garden.

Although the best option would be to get a dog if they smell it in the garden they wont come a-wandering as often.
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