I love how you are turning this into an Anti Ruth thing when she has shown nothing but gratidue towards anyone.

Rachel's the thug, not Ruth!

so you know ruth inside out? how do you she isnt bitchy? how do you know this wasnt a small argument being blown up?

sorry billy but shes not a thug you read to much into things.

You say it ain't uncommon, and then say this one isn't true. I don't get that, she may be off serious drugs and just do cannabis. As you said, its not uncommon, not the first time this has happened and far worse.

http://www.people.co.uk/news/tm_head...name_page.html

But whatever the truth of the story, this gives a huge chunk of sympathy to Ruth. It's like a new sob story.

That's assuming she's made it into the final 12.

Did anybody notice when the girls appeared at the Dannii's villa Ruth and Rachel came out holding hands? Was that not after they had stayed together in London? Or maybe Rachel was making sure Ruth didn't go anywhere without her say so?

funny

True.

How do you know that she has been clean for six years other than that she says so?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...ar-Rachel.html

How do you know she hasn't you don't.

It is highly likely that as part of her probation when she was released from prison she would have been drug tested on a regular basis. In fact it is possible that she still is if Childrens Services are still involved with her case, which is highly possible given her history.

Maybe he isn't the only person reading into things though:


So you know Ruth inside out? How do you know whether she'll use it as a sob story or not?

It's funny how you defend Rachel like this but then you say things like that about other contestants who you also don't know.

And I disagree about Rachel being head and shoulders above Ruth in singing. Imo, Rachel has messed up twice so far, Ruth has been consistant and has delivered at every round. I actually prefer Rachel's voice, but she's not that great and I feel more emotion from Ruth when she sings.

IF she is using , what a silly silly girl she is , 3 children in care ,been to prison , using drugs , with her voice she could have done well and completely changed her life , there is a saying that a Leopard can't change it's spots springs to mind , bloody fool

Using cannabis and using heroin and crack are 2 completely different things do not fall for the sensationalistic headlines.
That is if she is using anything.

Btw her 3 children are not in care they have been adopted.

Have you ever seen anybody with cannabis induced psychosis ?

There is no such thing as a safe drug.

Seen it many times. I have also seen the damage that cannabis can do to someones life, however I did not say it was a safe drug just that it was the same as heroin and crack.

So you are telling me that you have never drunk alcohol or smoked a cigarette in your life? Studies have shown that cannabis aswell as a few class A drugs like ecstacy and LSD are less harmful and less addictive than either of those. Ever taken a drug with side-effects (paracetemol, aspirin etc)?

I have to agree. Wonder if this will be mentioned on the main show?

Less addictive yes less harmful not quite - cannabis is just as carcinogenic as cigarettes as it is smoked. Anything that is burnt is carcinogenic. Although admittedly most people would not smoke as many spliffs as the average smoker would but cannabis smokers have a tendency to draw the smoke deeper into their lungs.
As for the chemicals in a cigarette most cannabis also contain a variety of chemicals through the growing process.

In actual fact the least harmful drug on the actual body believe or not is heroin - in its purest form it has the least long term effect on the body.

Thing is though. If this happened at boot camp why where Rachel and Ruth holding hands at Dannii's house on Xtra factor?

If they were warring is that how they would behave?

Have you ever drank tea, coffee, coke, alcohol or ate chocolate or taken a headache tablet - if you have then you are one of those drug users.

They will hold whoevers hand they are told to hold, say what they are told to say ... contestants on that show are so desperate to get far they'll say and do anything. Very few have gone against this, if they have, they haven't lasted long!

That is even worse , she will never have the chance to get them back , they are the fortunate ones

Remember Ruth did not sell the story, so do not blame her...
I think most stories come from inside the X Factor offices good and bad. I like Rachel and think she has one of the best voices on the show.