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ASDA £2 chickens...
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Melanie858
07-10-2008
Originally Posted by Kevin1960:
“Organic chickens are always free-range. Free-range chickens aren't necessarily organic though.”

Originally Posted by whoever,hey:
“Nope. The other way round actually.”

No that's not true. Not all free-range chickens are organic. I also don't think all organic chickens are free range either.
Specktater
07-10-2008
This thread is starting to sound like an IQ test 'if all bingles have bangles and all bangles belong to bongles, how many bungles does it take to change a lightbulb' etc etc

I managed to get the second last £2 chicken today, cheers for the heads up op! (I debated taking them both but thought nah that would be greedy, there's only 2 of us after all )
Kevin1960
07-10-2008
[quote=Melanie858;27974929. I also don't think all organic chickens are free range either.[/QUOTE]

Yes they are. A look at the websites of the certification bodies such as the Soil Association and Organic Farmers and Growers will confirm this.
trinity2002
07-10-2008
Originally Posted by Melanie858:
“No that's not true. Not all free-range chickens are organic. I also don't think all organic chickens are free range either.”

Organic chickens have to be free range.
trinity2002
07-10-2008
Originally Posted by daveyhairbear:
“I'd argue whether "Organic" chickens are in fact "better".

Modern breeds of chicken have around half the fat of those bred 25 years ago, regardless of how they were reared.

In fact, organic chickens contain MORE fat than battery chickens: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...icle658245.ece

In addition, organic chickens are more prone to campylobacter infection than non-organic chicken.

(Campylobacter is the most common form of food poisoning in the UK)”

I don't think you can use the words 'in fact'. That is just one research findings - you will find others that say differently.

It is then of course up to the consumer what they choose to buy.
caras
07-10-2008
http://www.soilassociation.org/web/s...9!OpenDocument


Quite a good read
Kevin1960
07-10-2008
Originally Posted by trinity2002:
“I don't think you can use the words 'in fact'. That is just one research findings - you will find others that say differently.

It is then of course up to the consumer what they choose to buy.”

I always buy free-range/organic chicken for animal welfare reasons and taste. I can't believe that anyone would think "oh, I'm going to buy this cheap 'battery' [sic] chicken because it's got slightly less fat in it than an organic bird".
Katia Polletin
07-10-2008
Battery chickens are where you get EGGs from, not ones you get for eating.

Can we stop calling intensively farmed chickens battery chickens when that they are not.

Ourselves we do buy organic / free range and rarely from a supermarket.
Darthchaffinch
08-10-2008
you are what you eat...
SHAFT
09-10-2008
Originally Posted by Darthchaffinch:
“you are what you eat...”

"... then Gillian McKeith must have eaten a right miserable cow!"

knebworth85
09-10-2008
Originally Posted by SHAFT:
“I had dinner at my sisters recently and she cooked a couple of the chickens that Asdas were selling at 3 for £10. They had very little taste and the texture of the meat was just odd. I'll pass.”

Thats because they were probably produced in bad conditions kept in cramped cages messsing over themselves unable to roam around freely,ect ect.

In short cr-p in cr-p out.

When will the british learn you only get what you pay for,apart from the cruel treatment of cheaply produced food.

Some of the programmes i have seeen on tv would make you feel sick. Still out of sight out of mind.
Darthchaffinch
09-10-2008
Originally Posted by SHAFT:
“"... then Gillian McKeith must have eaten a right miserable cow!"

”

Ha! I know what you mean!! She must live on prunes and castor oil or something!!
Kevin1960
11-10-2008
Originally Posted by Katia Polletin:
“Battery chickens are where you get EGGs from, not ones you get for eating.

Can we stop calling intensively farmed chickens battery chickens when that they are not.

Ourselves we do buy organic / free range and rarely from a supermarket.”

That's why I put "[sic]" after my use of the word "battery". The correct word for meat chickens is "broiler".
lil lexie
11-10-2008
My friend had some cheap chickens from Asda the other week (3 for a tenner?). I asked her what it tasted like, she said 'like cheap chicken from Asda'. She said she wouldn't be buying it again.

We always buy the frozen extra large chickens from Sainsburys (£3.99). Defrost it on Saturday, a bit of Schwartz chicken seasoning and in the oven on Sunday, and then Monday it's either Chicken and Mozzarella Pasta bake or Chicken and Mushroom pie with the rest.
malaikah
12-10-2008
I can't buy non-free range chicken anymore since I watch Hugh's Chicken Out programmes.. if I start to think about the miserable suffering lives they have led before their death it makes me feel sick. I'd rather do without. £6 for a weekly bird to eat on Sunday with another meal out of it in the week is fine!
Lidl sell free range now, I got a £7 medium sized bird for £4.20 becuase it had 30% off, on Friday.. I shoved it in the freezer when I got home, which reminds me I'd best put it in the fridge before I go to bed.
whoever,hey
12-10-2008
Originally Posted by Melanie858:
“No that's not true. Not all free-range chickens are organic. I also don't think all organic chickens are free range either.”

Yeah this is what has confused me reading this thread Maybe its new wording in the past lingo media....
gemchicken
12-10-2008
Why would anyone want to buy a chicken for £2? I think anyone that does is disgusting and should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves, do you not realise what ha horrible, painful life they have lead? Buying these chickens is only encouraging the use of battery hens!

This, is what happens to your 'bargain' two pound chickens...

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...en/bathen2.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...en/bathen3.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ken/bathen.jpg

How can anyone justify eating an animal which has suffered such horrible conditions? It's beyond me.
gemchicken
12-10-2008
Originally Posted by Specktater:
“This thread is starting to sound like an IQ test 'if all bingles have bangles and all bangles belong to bongles, how many bungles does it take to change a lightbulb' etc etc

I managed to get the second last £2 chicken today, cheers for the heads up op! (I debated taking them both but thought nah that would be greedy, there's only 2 of us after all )”

Why would you be proud of that? It's disgusting.
malaikah
12-10-2008
Also, don't kid yourself that it is the store subsidising the cut-price misery bird. Its not! Its the producer who loses out.
Porcupine
13-10-2008
Originally Posted by gemchicken:
“Why would anyone want to buy a chicken for £2? I think anyone that does is disgusting and should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves, do you not realise what ha horrible, painful life they have lead? Buying these chickens is only encouraging the use of battery hens!

This, is what happens to your 'bargain' two pound chickens...

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...en/bathen2.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...en/bathen3.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ken/bathen.jpg

How can anyone justify eating an animal which has suffered such horrible conditions? It's beyond me.”

Why does the bird in the 2nd photo have lots of different coloured eggs around her ? And she isnt in a cage, but on someones floor. So, the eggs were props ? I wonder if the hen was a prop too ?
gemchicken
13-10-2008
Originally Posted by Porcupine:
“Why does the bird in the 2nd photo have lots of different coloured eggs around her ? And she isnt in a cage, but on someones floor. So, the eggs were props ? I wonder if the hen was a prop too ?”

She is a rescued battery hen, who can't stop laying. That is the type of life she will have, through no fault of her own. She is skinny because she is not used to food and is bald due to stress.

As for the different coloured eggs - they're all the same colour, just vartying shades. These are classed as 'brown' eggs, which are laid by hens with red ear lobes, whereas white eggs are laid by hens with white earlobes. It can also be to do with their diet.

Pretty sad, isn't it? People who buy cheap chickens (no pun intended) are contributing to the poor treatment of chickens and should feel ashamed.
darkjedimaster
13-10-2008
Originally Posted by knebworth85:
“Thats because they were probably produced in bad conditions kept in cramped cages messsing over themselves unable to roam around freely,ect ect.

In short cr-p in cr-p out.

When will the british learn you only get what you pay for,apart from the cruel treatment of cheaply produced food.

Some of the programmes i have seeen on tv would make you feel sick. Still out of sight out of mind.”

I buy a bag of large chicken breasts from iceland for £5 & they taste like they have come from a more expensive bird, I know that they probably haven't & that the chickens in question never had a pair of slippers & cup of cocoa before bed but that isn't my concern.

This Ethical shopping BS is an argument that will go for many years to come.

Regardless of how well or how bad the chickens are treated, people will only buy what they want to.
Porcupine
14-10-2008
Originally Posted by gemchicken:
“She is a rescued battery hen, who can't stop laying. That is the type of life she will have, through no fault of her own. She is skinny because she is not used to food and is bald due to stress.

As for the different coloured eggs - they're all the same colour, just vartying shades. These are classed as 'brown' eggs, which are laid by hens with red ear lobes, whereas white eggs are laid by hens with white earlobes. It can also be to do with their diet.

Pretty sad, isn't it? People who buy cheap chickens (no pun intended) are contributing to the poor treatment of chickens and should feel ashamed.”

Sorry - im not being difficult, but yes it is a shame, and i hate to see it. Im a chicken keeper myself, and i raise free range birds who will never be killed. Even when they stop laying, they will live out the rest of their days with us.

But that chicken wont have laid all of those eggs. To say 'she cant stop laying' makes it sound as if she is popping one out every minute. A hen will lay one egg a day. Those eggs arent from the same hen, unless the diet really does vary wildly. I doubt it though. Hens normally have the same diet day in day out, with a little 'treat' every day. Mine love a little fruit, bread and pastry.

I have lots of different varieties of chickens. The majority lay brown eggs, but they are different coloured brown eggs. Those eggs didnt come from the same bird.

Having said this, it is horrid - and it shouldnt be allowed.
Specktater
14-10-2008
Originally Posted by gemchicken:
“Why would anyone want to buy a chicken for £2? I think anyone that does is disgusting and should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves, do you not realise what ha horrible, painful life they have lead? Buying these chickens is only encouraging the use of battery hens!

This, is what happens to your 'bargain' two pound chickens...

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...en/bathen2.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...en/bathen3.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ken/bathen.jpg

How can anyone justify eating an animal which has suffered such horrible conditions? It's beyond me.”

Using misleading images to shock people round to your point of view... you are Hugh Fearnley-Whitteryone and I claim my £5
SHAFT
14-10-2008
Originally Posted by Specktater:
“Using misleading images to shock people round to your point of view... you are Hugh Fearnley-Whitteryone and I claim my £5 ”

What an incredibly dumb comment.
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