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So if the allegations are true and she gets the boot ...
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demonllama
06-10-2008
What do you think will happen? Who do you want to replace Rachel, IF the allegations are true and IF she gets booted off a la Lady Shivers ... ?
Cuppa_Tea
06-10-2008
I don't think it will happen but if it does I would like Suzie to replace her.
Fenixx
06-10-2008
Originally Posted by Cuppa_Tea:
“I don't think it will happen but if it does I would like Suzie to replace her.”

I think she's stuffed her chances up by bitching in the papers, but she'd be my choice too.
Magpie11
06-10-2008
Originally Posted by Fenixx:
“I think she's stuffed her chances up by bitching in the papers, but she'd be my choice too.”

What did she say?
TheFletch
06-10-2008
Originally Posted by Magpie11:
“What did she say?”

Claimed that 'Dannii didn't mentor us'
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/xfactor/...mentor-us.html

Which is odd ... coz that's the next round
Up to that point it's every mand for him(her)self.
cressida100
06-10-2008
I don't think they will replace her. They will know she won't get the votes because of the bad publicity and let her go 'naturally'. Or else they may do a fantastic PR job and bring in the children to 'melt our hearts'.
Magpie11
06-10-2008
Originally Posted by TheFletch:
“Claimed that 'Dannii didn't mentor us'
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/xfactor/...mentor-us.html

Which is odd ... coz that's the next round
Up to that point it's every mand for him(her)self.”

Thanks

Pretty mild stuff then, doubt it'll be held against her.

I hope she does get back in if Rachel gets the boot.
Faria262
06-10-2008
It would probably be Suzie though,a s Dannii did say Suzie was the c;psest to getting a yes out of the three she rejected. Who knows what the truth is in the newspaper articles anyway?

Haven't heard of Rachel potentially being disqualified though = has something happened recently? So far, her criminal past has not only been acknowledged but made quite a point of.....does she have an outstanding or especially violent conviction she's failed to mention before?


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Fenixx
06-10-2008
It was more than just saying Dannii didn't appear much, it was about the whole of the experience, working long days, doing back to back interviews, not staying at Dannii's rented house, nothing really bad but still bitching about the production.
demonllama
06-10-2008
If she's taking drugs, she's a criminal right now - they HAVE to kick her out, especially after the two they booted last year for, one, an unfinished probation-type thing, and two, assault.

If she's still doing drugs, no matter how "mild" they are perceived to be, she cannot stay.
kts2k
06-10-2008
I don't understand how Rachel was allowed to audition in the first place! If a contestant has a prior conviction, I thought they weren't allowed to compete? Or, is it because she was truthful from the beginning?

If the reports in the papers are true then I hope something does happen. Drugs shouldn't be glamourised. Also, if its true she is keeping the other contestant from rehearsing, then technically, could that be cheating??
demonllama
06-10-2008
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...ming-show.html

That's one of many articles stating that she's being investigated atm.
demonllama
06-10-2008
Originally Posted by kts2k:
“I don't understand how Rachel was allowed to audition in the first place! If a contestant has a prior conviction, I thought they weren't allowed to compete? Or, is it because she was truthful from the beginning?

If the reports in the papers are true then I hope something does happen. Drugs shouldn't be glamourised. Also, if its true she is keeping the other contestant from rehearsing, then technically, could that be cheating??”

She'd completed her punishment - it was considered spent, as far as I understand, so that means she's allowed to audition.
GODDESS
06-10-2008
Originally Posted by kts2k:
“I don't understand how Rachel was allowed to audition in the first place! If a contestant has a prior conviction, I thought they weren't allowed to compete? Or, is it because she was truthful from the beginning?

If the reports in the papers are true then I hope something does happen. Drugs shouldn't be glamourised. Also, if its true she is keeping the other contestant from rehearsing, then technically, could that be cheating??”

I think it will be a headache if Rachel wins.

With her criminal past if would be very diffucult for her to obtain a visa to America or Australlia. A nightmare for simon if he wants another Leona Lewis type winner

Simon and the producers must have realised this as she progressd futher through the audition process.

My guess is that they'll use her 'story' to gain publicity for the show but will use all their powers to stop her from winning.

The same will be done with Daniel. This years Steve Brookstien.
Magpie11
06-10-2008
Originally Posted by GODDESS:
“I think it will be a headache if Rachel wins.

With her criminal past if would be very diffucult for her to obtain a visa to America or Australlia. A nightmare for simon if he wants another Leona Lewis type winner

Simon and the producers must have realised this as she progressd futher through the audition process.

My guess is that they'll use her 'story' to gain publicity for the show but will use all their powers to stop her from winning.”

They won't need to do much.

Right or wrong there's no way the GBP will vote for her.
cressida100
06-10-2008
Originally Posted by Magpie11:
“They won't need to do much.

Right or wrong there's no way the GBP will vote for her.”


Agreed. I think she has fans on these forums but after piece of bad publicity the viewer's comments have been really slating her. I will be very surprised if she goes far. Unless of course they can really do a great PR job. Who knows?
GODDESS
06-10-2008
Originally Posted by cressida100:
“I don't think they will replace her. They will know she won't get the votes because of the bad publicity and let her go 'naturally'. Or else they may do a fantastic PR job and bring in the children to 'melt our hearts'. ”

I dont think Social Services will allow Rachel or the producers to exploit her children like this.

I imagine she only kept them by the skin of her teeth.
kts2k
06-10-2008
I thought she wasn't that good a singer. The young girl who was a backing singer for Shane Ward was so much better then Rachel. I was really shocked that she didn't get through.

Do you think Danni just kept her in because she knew there would be loads of headlines?

I may just not have remembered this correctly, but wasn't there a contestant a couple of years ago that had a conviction and was booted off the show by the producers?
TheFletch
06-10-2008
Have you all forgotten we are trying to find a "pop star"

Have you all forgotten about the likes of Amy Winehouse?

If you ask me, she's just got a head start on the whole thing
It'll save time later
demonllama
06-10-2008
Originally Posted by kts2k:
“I thought she wasn't that good a singer. The young girl who was a backing singer for Shane Ward was so much better then Rachel. I was really shocked that she didn't get through.

Do you think Danni just kept her in because she knew there would be loads of headlines?

I may just not have remembered this correctly, but wasn't there a contestant a couple of years ago that had a conviction and was booted off the show by the producers?”

That young girl was Suzie from The 411 - quite a successful girl group a couple of years ago.

Danni - yes!

And yes, it was last year - Cece.

tenchgirl
06-10-2008
Hmmm rachel, I was surprised she was chosen as one of the 3 - dispite the above, as to date we have yet to see her sing a song without stopping mid way whining shes lost the words or the musics being played to fast, a bit of a liablity in that department one I think Simon noted during bootcamp and not just becuase of her attitude, I think its a serious gamble to have her on the live shows becuase shes not going to be able to stop the band and try to start again. The girls got a voice but its one think to sing along to the radio a totally different thing to sing to live music as we've seen she cant without messing it up. Im not sure shes going to be able to carry it off, even less so if shes stoned out of her face. we shall see tho.
TheFletch
06-10-2008
Iagree ...
I think she's got a great voice. It's different enough to do her very well. But, it could be a complete car wreck when she gets on a LIVE Stage

It's going to be compelling viewing either way
GODDESS
06-10-2008
Originally Posted by demonllama:
“That young girl was Suzie from The 411 - quite a successful girl group a couple of years ago.

Danni - yes!

And yes, it was last year - Cece.

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I'm not sure if Cece had an actual conviction, but there was some footage of her posted on youtube showing her involvement in an assault.
InMyArms
06-10-2008
She wont get dropped imo, Unless she gets done by the police for it
Locke_John
06-10-2008
The Golf guy, I think his names was James but I'm not sure.
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