That was Emily. Cece had some more punishment time left - was it community service? Can't remember. Emily aka Lady Shivers was the one threatening to cut people's bosoms off.

Thanks for that. Now I'm trying to remember who Cece was.

Np :>

Cece was the very gobby friend of Charley from Big Bro, who was the 6th member of Hope.

She deserved to get booted off just for her association with Charley.

I think the lack of CeCe was the reason Hope didn't do as well they could have. I think she would have given them that sparkle they needed so badly.

I don't think she'll endear herself to the GBP...... she could end up being one of the ones who are voted off first.

LOL true.

Well Rhydian had awful PR for the majority of the show and he came second.

Yes but HE had the likeability factor (IMO)

I'm not sure that Rhydian's life and Rachel's life can be compared. No PR can overturn what she did in the past, no matter how sincere she might be about a fresh start. We might be willing to give her a second chance, but not everyone will.

I liked Rachel to start with but have since gone off her. I've heard several other people saying this too and people making that comment on the showbiz forum too.

But so does Rachel.

Rhydain wasn't liked on here until the live shows Started. Thread upon thread of how Dannii got it wrong. Yet look what happened. Same will happen here.

And no offense but the only people who seem to dislike Rachel strongly are mass posting in various threads so as a result it looks like people don't like her when infact it's just a smal group of about 15.

Interesting. I've never been interested in her vocally - I'm not into Duffy or Winehouse etc either - but I was willing to give her a chance. I'm hoping she hasn't been taking drugs again, after her realising that she was ruining it for herself. I really think she has a great opportunity here and I'd love to see her take it.

I think Rachel is one gobby-scabby cow. She didn't even bother to paint her nails properly for the audition, and when she speaks she REALLY grates on my nerves. Shame she was blessed with a great singing voice. If she has been doing the whacky, they should defo sling her out, maybe thats the reason she forgets her words?

If it is true she should be kicked out,and I'd say that if it was any of them.

From article:

'"A lot of people assumed we were going to get expert coaching from Dannii and Emma... But there was none."

How the hell can you get expert coaching, from two people who can't actually sing?

Niether Simon, Louis or Cheryl can sing so why single out Everyone else but leave them out?

Nobody here has singled Everyone out. If by Everyone, you mean Dannii and Emma Babyspice. It was Suzy thing, who got booted out, that mentioned their names.

Why, because they were her 'mentors.' More like dementors, if you ask me. Have you heard the hideous screeching on a Dannii Minogue record?

Yeah and I think she is quite a good singer and that's my opinion.

And Emma also can sing. In my opinion

I don't need anyone telling me what to think thanks.

I agree

Have I missed a post

If these allegations are true and she is allowed to remain it just makes a mockery of the whole show.

Perhaps she should remember she is not a star yet. so it's a bit early to act like one

I don't think she's acting like a star, it's how her character is.

Indeed it's the fact that she can't change her behaviour that will probably be her downfall.

I thought on the first show she told us she had changed and was looking for another chance, clearly she meant more than one chance !
How many more will she require do you think ?