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Old 06-10-2008, 17:15
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i am flabborgasted at the amount of negativity about rachel on this forum ive had enough already. this is becoming a real vile place this DS malarky.

it seems we are now putting image and personality ahead of the best voice and being a star. rachel has a voice and the personality but people are letting her past dictate on how they see her. if u forget bout her past for one minute and just watch her cant u see shes special? shes got an edge which is really interesting. perhaps people should try and get to know her instead of writing her off even before the 1st live show.

if this story wasnt printed people would still be on about how her attitude is so bad (it aint people) you arent gettin to know her you are just going on and on and on about her past which is wrong and ive never seen such judgemental views. it seems that noone has ever had drugs or smoked a cigerette or spoke back to someone or had an argument with someone it really is becoming a joke. no wonder the country is going to pot.

i just feel like people are becoming obsessed with blaming why they dislike her on her past its really starting to P me off.
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Old 06-10-2008, 17:18
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Nothing. She's just a hate figure.

I think generally there is an expectation of a pantomime villain on these shows and people pick one.

Mine is Alexandera.
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Old 06-10-2008, 17:20
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nah alexandra is ok but her personalitys a bit dull but im sure she will change her voice is incredible though.

rachel shouldnt be hated she should be respected IMO
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Old 06-10-2008, 17:21
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Respected? Why? Sure she got over drugs, but SHE started it in the first place. Nothing to be respected for at all.
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Old 06-10-2008, 17:23
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respected cos shes turned her life and doin something positive, im sure your perfect billy
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Old 06-10-2008, 17:24
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I'm not perfect but I don't see how she should be respected because she stopped taking drugs? She done it to herself. Doctors should be respected. Nurses and surgeons should be respected. Teachers should be respected, but Rachel Hylton is not on top of any list to be demanded respect.
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Old 06-10-2008, 17:26
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well i respect her u dont have to, i dont really care if u do or u dont tbh.
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Old 06-10-2008, 17:27
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well i respect her u dont have to, i dont really care if u do or u dont tbh.

Are you her best mate or something?
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Old 06-10-2008, 17:29
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To be honest there does seem to be an awful lot of dislike for her and the best people can come up with is her past.

But I fail to see why her past should be an issue. She has moved away from all that now and is trying to make a go off her life.

I suppose it's too much to ask for people to wait until Saturday to see how she gets on. She might win everyone over for all we know and be the best of the night yet.

Louis has actually said he thinks she will win.
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Old 06-10-2008, 17:31
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Originally Posted by Official Diva;27958293[[B
B]]To be honest there does seem to be an awful lot of dislike for her and the best people can come up with is her past[/b].[/b]

But I fail to see why her past should be an issue. She has moved away from all that now and is trying to make a go off her life.

I suppose it's too much to ask for people to wait until Saturday to see how she gets on. She might win everyone over for all we know and be the best of the night yet.

Louis has actually said he thinks she will win.
Really?

I thought that we who dislike her were in a minority round here!

Oh well, what will be will be.
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Old 06-10-2008, 17:32
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hey diva i know people are writing her off and they havent even seen her on the live shows yet sayin shel forget her words cos shes been takin drugs again? well lol if any of them forget their words does that mean they are on drugs aswell? does that apply to ashley from a couple of years ago?

oh its all so hilarious
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Old 06-10-2008, 17:38
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Really?

I thought that we who dislike her were in a minority round here!

Oh well, what will be will be.
I think this place actually is.

Leon last years public voted winner who doesn't have much support on here so that alone tells me this place is slightly out of touch with the voters at home.
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Old 06-10-2008, 17:41
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Respected? Why? Sure she got over drugs, but SHE started it in the first place. Nothing to be respected for at all.
I believe every man, woman and child have their vice in this world so if you want to measure any person you have to look at what they have done to escape their demons.

Rachel has done a hell of lot after going through what people go through but more so than others. I think she does deserve respect. I would look up to her rather than a lot of the other contestants this year.
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Old 06-10-2008, 17:45
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Well, forgetting her words and having a bit of an attitude is abit of a bother, don't you think? I don't think she actually has a really, really good voice. Yes, she can sing, and hold a tune but I think there were/are more talented people on the show.
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Old 06-10-2008, 17:47
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she werent the only one to forget her words was she? come on now, amy slagged dermot off in the papers making herself look rude and she came across as having more of a bad attitude than rachel im afraid.
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Old 06-10-2008, 17:49
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she werent the only one to forget her words was she? come on now, amy slagged dermot off in the papers making herself look rude and she came across as having more of a bad attitude than rachel im afraid.
Really? Amy slagged off Dermot for disrespecting people who talk about their dead relatives or whatever.

Rachel just couldn't take criticism.
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Old 06-10-2008, 17:49
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I think this place actually is.

Leon last years public voted winner who doesn't have much support on here so that alone tells me this place is slightly out of touch with the voters at home.
The media response on him winning and one other forums on the internet too showed him the most disliked. Up to this day, nobody knows how he won but he did. The faces on This Morning when his name were mentioned weren't of expectation or awe - let's put it that way.
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Old 06-10-2008, 17:54
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she werent the only one to forget her words was she? come on now, amy slagged dermot off in the papers making herself look rude and she came across as having more of a bad attitude than rachel im afraid.
Hmm.... she did forget her words QUITE a few times... boot camp AND at the judge's houses. It wasn't due to crying because off the stress/ nerves or being attached to the song. She just didn't seem to have had much practice time... if she wants to win she has to put in an effort like the others.
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Old 06-10-2008, 17:55
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The media response on him winning and one other forums on the internet too showed him the most disliked. Up to this day, nobody knows how he won but he did. The faces on This Morning when his name were mentioned weren't of expectation or awe - let's put it that way.
If you want my honest opinion. He only won because Simon turned it into a England vs Scotland vs Wales vote off. You know what the Scots are like.

But I do believe DS is being too hard on Rachel. How she will fair in the vote I don't know. I guess we will see on Saturday but she could surprise us all.











Like Rhydian did. But I think she does have a hard task ahead of her. Probably the hardest out of the lot but I believe Dannii is the woman for the job.
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Old 06-10-2008, 17:56
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where did she forget the words at bootcamp then? i think she forgot the lyrics once - dannii's house. she told the pianoist he was going to fast on chasing cars, thats different to forgetting lyrics
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Old 06-10-2008, 17:58
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I just find it deplorable that she think's life is like a plastic cup to be used and then disposed off. Rachel needs to learn that her children aren't objects to be exploited and then cast away when they've serverd their purpose to her.
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Old 06-10-2008, 17:59
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^ what????
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Old 06-10-2008, 18:01
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I just find it deplorable that she think's life is like a plastic cup to be used and then disposed off. Rachel needs to learn that her children aren't objects to be exploited and then cast away when they've serverd their purpose to her.
See I don't know enough of Rachel so wouldn't dare say something like this about someone who I have no idea about.

First impressions are not the way to judge people. I think I was brought up to respect people regardless and I'm pleased I am this way if it means I don't have such shallow views.
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Old 06-10-2008, 18:03
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where did she forget the words at bootcamp then? i think she forgot the lyrics once - dannii's house. she told the pianoist he was going to fast on chasing cars, thats different to forgetting lyrics

I'm sure she did. I didn't think the pianist was going too fast, it is a slow song. She didn't sing it in tune, I couldn't recognise the song, and it is a very familiar song.

I just don't think she is THAT good. I'm not talking about her past, I'm talking about her talent. Yes she can sing, but she's not really that good.
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Old 06-10-2008, 18:05
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amazing grace was a very polished performance (IMO) chasin cars each to their own i thought it was quite good. the only one she really has struggled with was beautiful but only towards the end where she got the lyrics but that can happen to anyone so why single her out?
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