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Where will the final 12 rank?
utoia2007
07-10-2008
From the winner to first out and why, heres my list-

1. laura white (the first 3 are very close imo could go any of the 3 ways)
2. Austin
3. Alexandra wont let us down in performances, however may have probs making a sing her own.
4. Rachel dont think she will go all the way due to controversy.
5. Dianna- the dark horse this year, or could crash and burn. hit or miss.
6. Eoghan- hope hes out sooner but will get alot of teen and cute votes
7. bad lashes- good styling, ok singers- think they will struggle with no standout singer like hope.
8. JLS- will be saved a few times
9- Ruth Lorenzo- public will get bored with the spanish thing, voice isn't amazing- however she could be a dark horse
10- Scott bruton- boring/old fashioned songs will lead to his downfall
11- Girlband, will be up bottom two with JLS or bad lashes but they will be saved before them, even though GB have better voices and prob better vocal performance.
12, daniel- generally crap- pub singer, wont get the votes and prob on near the start of the show to ensure less votes.
Love Bear
07-10-2008
I think a sympathy vote may prevent Daniel from being in the bottom 2 on the first show.
mrellis33
07-10-2008
1. Diana - I can only wish that someone with some originality can win this year.

2. Bad Lashes - Dark Horses for me, if only they had one stnd out singer, they would win it.

3. Alex - Great Voice, not so great personality

4. Austin - Don't like his crying but i can appreciate his voice

5. JLS - I really like them, hopefully they'll get good songs

6. Rachel - She does annoy me but she has a good voice and I think she'll perform well.

7. Ruth - Very Sexy, I like her

8. Eughon - He's not that bad

9. Scott - Rather bland but i think he'll be dependable on the live shows

10. Girlband - Haven't really made ny mind up yet. Like their original audition, hated then ever since.

11. Danny - Boring sob story, though tragic, has made me instantly dislike him.

12. Laura - everything i hate about copy-cat singers all rolled up into one act. She tries so hard to be like Amy Winehouse/Adele/Duffy, that she forgets who she really is. I find her performances so far, to be verging on copyright theft. Hate her.
yohinnchild
07-10-2008
1 / Diana
2 / JLS
3 / Alexandra
4 / Eoghan - Just misses out on the final
5 / Rachel - Wont get the public support
6 / Austin - Another possible shock exit?
7 / Bad Lashes - They'll have a good run; but wont win
8 / Laura - I really like her; however I can see her being a shock exit
9 / Ruth - Will either Wow or wont
10 / Scott - I like him; but I don't know how much support he'll have
11 / Daniel - Will be saved on 1st week then crash out
12 / Girl Band - They're either gonna go first or stay till top 5 IMO

However I think 7 or 8 have a reasonable chance of winning tbh
utoia2007
07-10-2008
Originally Posted by mrellis33:
“1. Diana - I can only wish that someone with some originality can win this year.

2. Bad Lashes - Dark Horses for me, if only they had one stnd out singer, they would win it.

3. Alex - Great Voice, not so great personality

4. Austin - Don't like his crying but i can appreciate his voice

5. JLS - I really like them, hopefully they'll get good songs

6. Rachel - She does annoy me but she has a good voice and I think she'll perform well.

7. Ruth - Very Sexy, I like her

8. Eughon - He's not that bad

9. Scott - Rather bland but i think he'll be dependable on the live shows

10. Girlband - Haven't really made ny mind up yet. Like their original audition, hated then ever since.

11. Danny - Boring sob story, though tragic, has made me instantly dislike him.

12. Laura - everything i hate about copy-cat singers all rolled up into one act. She tries so hard to be like Amy Winehouse/Adele/Duffy, that she forgets who she really is. I find her performances so far, to be verging on copyright theft. Hate her.”

Sorry but i dont understand how you can call dianna original when she copies damien rice and many other singers that may not be as well known as amy winehouse, dont say she doesn't coz her voice is affected. Then accuse laura of being a copy cat for singing in a jazz style, which by the way her voice doesn't even sound like amy winehouse. And no winehouse didnt invent this style its been around for centuries
mrellis33
07-10-2008
Originally Posted by utoia2007:
“Sorry but i dont understand how you can call dianna original when she copies damien rice and many other singers that may not be as well known as amy winehouse, dont say she doesn't coz her voice is affected. Then accuse laura of being a copy cat for singing in a jazz style, which by the way her voice doesn't even sound like amy winehouse. And no winehouse didnt invent this style its been around for centuries ”

what the hell are you talking about?! Laura blatantly copies Amy Winehouse, even her stupid hair-do and drunken slurry lyrics (though Amy Winehouse is drunk when she does that). Who Amy Winehouse has been influenced by is not in question, its obvious she tries to emulate artists like Sarah Vaughan and Erykah Badu, not copy them though. thats the difference.

Diana is a female Damian Rice, I'm happy with that comparison, We could do with one of those.

Oh and don't roll your eyes, its a bit childish and very rude.
Amy86
07-10-2008
i think this threads a bit premature, anyone could f*ck this show up and i aint tempting anyones fate, i wish them all the best cos they all deserve to do well on the 1st live show.
spiidey
07-10-2008
This article sums up my prediction almost expertly: http://www.chickendinner.co.uk/home/...al_twelve.html

Quote:
“THE GIRLS

Alexandra
Like the biblical tale of one man overcoming actual death, Alexandra's story is a bit like Lazarus'. There she was, back in 2005, living the dream, only for Louis to callously snatch it away from her at his penthouse in Ireland. But now she's in the final twelve, and she's an absolutely brilliant singer. Might yet prove to be Whitney to Leona Lewis' Mariah. The one to beat.

Laura
Laura has a massive face and a voice so powerful that even the immovable women of Bolton will momentarily cease scrubbing their front steps to hear her sing. That said, she lacks the same commercial appeal of Alexandra, so might find herself relying on the "cool" vote, which doesn't really exist on this show. Leona aside, not a single girl has made it past week five.

Diana
As mentioned, girls don't do well. Seventeen individuals have featured in the X Factor final since 2004 and only two of them have been female - Leona Lewis (winner, series three), and Sarah Smith (Same Difference, last year). That leaves Cheryl with just an 11.7 per cent chance of even making the top three. Diana, with her weedy folk voice, probably won't make sense to people expecting a roaring competition.


BOYS

Austin
Like Leon last year, Austin is totally incapable of making it through a single sentence without bursting into tears. It's weird. That said, of the boys, he is the only one who can really belt it out, so should be guaranteed a spot at the finals – like Leon (winner, 2007), Ray (runner up, 2006), Shane (winner, 2005), and Tabby (third, 2004).

Eoghan
This young Irish child looks about eight, but has the straight-faced demeanour of a middle aged man who has seen too much. On the plus side for Eoghan, he will rule the Irish vote - which served the Conway Sisters so well in series two, when they defied the odds and made it to the seventh week. On the downside, he doesn't sing, he whispers.

Scott
Why Cowell chose Scott over Mali-Michael McCalla (who should have made it on name alone) is a mystery. He's rubbish. An ex-Pontins worker who left his job to pursue his dream, in a cruel twist of irony, he will surely be near the bottom of the bill on a Pontins poster come panto season.


OVER 25s

Rachel
Oh, she's got the thrilling backstory. Five kids, crack addiction, prison. Now this should serve as some kind of redemption, winning the X Factor. Unfortunately, when push comes to shove, the kind of doddery old nanas who vote for this thing are much more likely to pick up the phone for the wholesome lass from Bolton over the gobby jailbird who keeps telling Simon to get knotted before instantly apologising and slapping herself playfully on the wrist.

Ruth
Sultry and Spanish, Ruth is the woman equivalent of Enrique Iglesias, and she will surely spend her time singing Spanglish hybrids until everyone finally gets bored and doesn't find her sexy any more. This audience is seriously xenophobic, and only Chico (fifth, series two) has been taken to their hearts - just because he was bit like Manuel from Falty Towers.

Daniel
X Factor viewers simply can't stand old people, hence why Daniel's fellow over-25s are literally 25 and 26. At 38, the guy is a geriatric! And, dare we say it, but the moment he runs out of songs that sound like they were written for his dead wife, he's toast.


GROUPS

JLS
These guys seem popular with the judges and decent at singing, so could yet become the new Damage (remember them?). Only one band, G4 (silly, operatic) has ever made it to the final two.

Bad Lashes
These chicks might look like they're about to offer you a haircut or invite you into a nightclub, but actually they're really edgy. They proved that by singing things like Wonderwall in their auditions. Being from the North East, they should be guaranteed the disgruntled Toon Army vote.

Girlband
Presumably named as an homage to the Bristol post-punk band The Pop Group, these babes are also from the West Country. On the downside this programme churns out bubbly girl bands like this by the bucket load. Remember Addictiv Ladies? Voices with Soul? Hope? Of course you don't.”

Interesting stuff about the % of females that make it to the final stages of the competition - completely backs my idea that males get the most votes purely because of their 'hotness'.
Sidespin Nid
07-10-2008
Originally Posted by spiidey:
“This article sums up my prediction almost expertly: http://www.chickendinner.co.uk/home/...al_twelve.html



Interesting stuff about the % of females that make it to the final stages of the competition - completely backs my idea that males get the most votes purely because of their 'hotness'.
”



I think this year will certainly be interesting. The girls this year are clearly , I'd go as far as to say objectively stronger than the males so if the males do last longer then I guess we'll know for sure that talent counts for very little on this show.
Peeves
07-10-2008
Originally Posted by mrellis33:
“what the hell are you talking about?! Laura blatantly copies Amy Winehouse, even her stupid hair-do and drunken slurry lyrics (though Amy Winehouse is drunk when she does that). Who Amy Winehouse has been influenced by is not in question, its obvious she tries to emulate artists like Sarah Vaughan and Erykah Badu, not copy them though. thats the difference.

Diana is a female Damian Rice, I'm happy with that comparison, We could do with one of those.

Oh and don't roll your eyes, its a bit childish and very rude.”

Hypocritical much? You just dissed Laura's hair and bashed Amy Winhouse's alcoholic problems yet you say a smiley is childish.

And what? As for the "Laura copies Amy" thing, has it ever occured to you that AMY ISN'T THE ONLY ONE WITH THAT HAIRSTYLE! And anyway, it's hardly a beehive that Laura has. I love her hair.
rebel yell
07-10-2008
Unless Laura messes up incredibly in the live shows, i dont see anyone else winning to be honest. I think its unfortunately between Cheryl's girls for the final three places, with the obligatory male, Ewgone.
spiidey
07-10-2008
Would love it if all 3 girls made the final 5 but I fear one of them will get chopped along the way - because inevitably one of them will find themselves in the bottom 2 and if Cheryl still has 3 and all other judges have 1, there's no way they'll let her act stay.
Flamethrower100
07-10-2008
1. Luara. Or Diana.
2. Austen.
3. Alexandra
4. Rachel.

Not sure about the rest. But perhaps Alexandra could win. But I just think it will be a girl this year.
Faxy Fowler
08-10-2008
JLS
Haven't we been here before with bands like this?

We've had 4 Sure, 4 Tune etc....a lot of people might well appreciate their music etc, but bands of this ilk seem to me to not really make a mark with the public.

I can see them for their talent not lasting terribly long. Nothing against them - I am always happy to be proved wrong.

To me the one to beat is Alexandra. Whoever can beat her will probably win the X Factor.
signinstranger
08-10-2008
Ok - It must be getting very late because I thought this said "Where will the final 12 bank"?

1. hsbc
2. Northern rock
87. Icesave
utoia2007
09-10-2008
Originally Posted by mrellis33:
“what the hell are you talking about?! Laura blatantly copies Amy Winehouse, even her stupid hair-do and drunken slurry lyrics (though Amy Winehouse is drunk when she does that). Who Amy Winehouse has been influenced by is not in question, its obvious she tries to emulate artists like Sarah Vaughan and Erykah Badu, not copy them though. thats the difference.

Diana is a female Damian Rice, I'm happy with that comparison, We could do with one of those.

Oh and don't roll your eyes, its a bit childish and very rude.”

Its there to be used isnt it

So because laura has brown thick curly hair, which she wears down and scrunched up and sometimes straightens- shes copying Amy winehouses style? What do you want her to do die her hair platinum blonde- something she wouldnt suit to avoid a ridiculous comparison.. She has normal hair, which prob much of the female population have. She doesnt have a beehive.
Again listen to lauras and amy's voices, they sound nothing alike! The particular style, old school jazz, taken from black females like josylin brown etc, they are the ORIGINALS. Both winehouse and laura are influenced by these singers. Due to the fact lauras vocie not sound like winehouse, for one she has alot more of a huskier tone and quality, she is therefore not a direct copy like you are suggesting, but influenced by the past in the same way winehouse is.

If its ok to emulate damien rice because A- hes male and B- hes less well known than winehosue, your just contradicting yourself. Because that doesn't make dinna original like you are proposing. And theres other female singers out there already doing this style.. but as they are less well known people dont jump to the 'copy cat' assumption, even when they are.
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