Hi,

I am currently decorating the living room in the house i bought about a year ago and some BT equipment is getting in the way. There is a BT box on the windowsill with a line coming in from the outside through the edge of the window frame.

It looks like this:
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...3/P1010029.jpg

(not my pic but it shows the box).

There is then a line coming from this, down the wall along the skirting, through a wall into the hall where it connects to a socket which my phone plugs into (master socket?).

I dont understand why its done like this at all. What is the need for the box in the picture? Why not go through the wall in the other room and straight into the second box?

Anyway where is the demarcation point likely to be in this case? Is it the first box or the second? I really want to get rid of this trailing wire but not sure where to start.

Any help or advice appreciated.

i think that box has to do with the change over from analogue to digital. but i don't know if you're allowed to touch it.

that box is just a junction box for changing from external cable to internal cable. As we can only run external cable 2M inside a property for fire reg's.
your demarcation point is the nte5, "technically" you are not allowed to touch this terminal.

thanks for the info.

I'm guessing BT would charge through the roof to move this?

don't know about how much it would cost to move it as all CP's (i.e bt and co) have their own charges.
in the old days, i think it used to be about £70-£80, but not 100%.

Simple solution do it yourself. the box is a bt66 box with push in connections the tools can be got from most diy places. the black cable or dropwire 10 has four wires whit/orange will have been used from the pole, the internal cable has four wires with blue white/white being used. just run a new cable from where you want the phone to this box in which ever route you want. cable can be got from any diy place. The box 66 has now been replaced with a network term. box 5c which is the uptodate method bt uses.

A BT66 is actually a grey box, about 5* the size and is used for external purposes, the one in the pic is either a BT76, BT80, or BT85. the BT76 having 8 IDC terminals(the push tool type)(used when joining internal to internal cable), the BT80 having 3 IDC and 3 Screw terminals(these used to be the correct one to use when changing from external(dropwire) to internal), however as the circuit boards used to get corroded and cause faults, the BT85 is now the correct terminal(this contains grease IDC crimps)(this is just the BT76, BT80 with the circuit board removed).
anyways slightly off topic, by all means go down the DIY route, but the OP must bear in mind by doing so they would be breaching their T & C's with their service provider. though saying that, what they don't know won't hurt them.
just make sure they do a good job, i had to bill someone today cos they DIY'd to hide the cable under their flooring then putting a nail through it.

Yes you could be right it,s a few years since I dealt with those numbers, the general idea is the same. do it yourself working on two wires is simple with the right tools.

That looks like a typical bodge done by whoever replaced the windows. If you look you will see the PVC below has been cut away. Removing what looks like a BT80 / 85 will leave more of a mess.
This is not BT work as what has been done will (in my understanding) make the guarantee on the windows void, and if I caught any of my colleagues bringing the D/W through PVC instead of the wall it would be coffee and doughnuts all round as a fine. Woe betide them if the job was audited.
Frankly you had best put up with it and hid it behind the curtain, as to get it moved properly will cost, and I don’t expect the double glazers to pay up.

The alternative (assuming this is ground floor) is to reroute the wire through a bed room wall straight into the back of the NTE. Then rewire down through the house. Again against the terms and conditions if you do, but far neater.

er, this was not his actual install, just a photo of the box conn