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Video of Cheryl when she auditioned for Pop Stars - she is an awful singer!
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InMyArms
08-10-2008
That was years ago..people improve
James Martin 2
08-10-2008
I think she's made a HUGE mistake sending home Hannah over the weaker Alexandra.

Am I the only one who doesn't get Alex?
Psychosis
08-10-2008
Originally Posted by Fenixx:
“They can't have been - after announcing Cheryl was in the band, her line was closed while the other five remained open. This happened for every girl until it was Sarah versus Javine and the lines were still open to pick which one made the band, even if it did all take place in under ten minutes.”

I am about 95% sure you're wrong, unless you have video to back up that claim? I remember them all going through in one batch VERY clearly, because I was an avid Nadine fan at the time. I'm sure it all happened in one go, leaving just Javine and Sarah last. At the time me and my mum were annoyed that Cheryl got announced first, but we were convincing ourselves that it didn't mean she had the most votes. Just checked with my mum and she remembers it the same way.

I wanted Cheryl out because I thought she was useless, and both Javine and Sarah in (actually, I wanted Aimee in more than either of those girls, lol)
Beer
08-10-2008
Originally Posted by Sexy!Cool!:
“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpWus7NUeyY

She sucks. Cannot believe she is judging people on X Factor.

She is very beautiful but i think thats as far as it goes. Whatever happened to real musicians, real talent, real skill with songwriting etc. And she made some money yes, done the Kit-Kat advert and went and married a footballer. Great. X-Factor? no It's a farce people, gone are the days you we're discovered and not manufactured. Where are the real singers/musicians.”

I never knew she was so bad.
Moloko
08-10-2008
At the time, I thought "wow" and thought Cheryl was one of the best though she wasn't my favourite, but seeing this again, she was so crap. However, it has been 6 years now. She was 19 then, remember, so her voice probably didn't mature enough and I'm sure she has improved a lot.
Beer
08-10-2008
Originally Posted by James Martin 2:
“I think she's made a HUGE mistake sending home Hannah over the weaker Alexandra.

Am I the only one who doesn't get Alex?”

No James. I don't get Alex either. I think she's really hopeless as a singer - just shout shout screeeeeeeech.
Psychosis
08-10-2008
Originally Posted by James Martin 2:
“I think she's made a HUGE mistake sending home Hannah over the weaker Alexandra.

Am I the only one who doesn't get Alex?”

I feel the opposite. Hannah's mid range is strong but the moment she tries to belt, she falls apart like glass-throat Ben Mills.
diamond1
08-10-2008
She wasn't just off key in her audition the majority of her live performances on the show were terrible .. if I remember righrly she was flat and off key through out most of the songs.

Actually looking at this video the others weren't much better .. Kimberly was dreadful.

.. and this video also shows that the band were announced one straight after the other ... so I doubt they were still taking votes and counting them after Cheryl was announced as the first member ..... also there was no mention of who got the most votes.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3X1T2UY4qYs
cowleyci5
08-10-2008
Originally Posted by James Martin 2:
“I think she's made a HUGE mistake sending home Hannah over the weaker Alexandra.

Am I the only one who doesn't get Alex?”

I think Alex is a good singer- just totally "heard it all before"! Hannah was something different.
WelshieRachel
08-10-2008
Cheryl's improved massively since then,she was fantastic on the recent tour.
Fenixx
08-10-2008
Originally Posted by Psychosis:
“I am about 95% sure you're wrong, unless you have video to back up that claim? I remember them all going through in one batch VERY clearly, because I was an avid Nadine fan at the time. I'm sure it all happened in one go, leaving just Javine and Sarah last. At the time me and my mum were annoyed that Cheryl got announced first, but we were convincing ourselves that it didn't mean she had the most votes. Just checked with my mum and she remembers it the same way.

I wanted Cheryl out because I thought she was useless, and both Javine and Sarah in (actually, I wanted Aimee in more than either of those girls, lol)”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec0L6MOcyPU

Davina explains it in the first 20 seconds of this video.
Crissiepops
08-10-2008
Shes not an awful singer, she has said herself that she wasn't good when she auditioned for Popstars but GA sing live ALOT now, alot more than most acts & they can all sing, they've all majorly improved since the Popstars days.

As for Cheryls acts being better than her, Cheryls got a job to do, shes been asked to be a judge/mentor, shes doing that, if she was going around saying shes better than her acts then fair enough, slate the girl, but she isn't saying that, & she never would.

As someone said in here, at least Cheryl is spending time MENTORING her acts, shes been in their shoes, she knows the score, & shes more in touch with music today than the other 3 judges put together
Peeves
08-10-2008
Originally Posted by James Martin 2:
“I think she's made a HUGE mistake sending home Hannah over the weaker Alexandra.

Am I the only one who doesn't get Alex?”

I don't *get* ger. Great voice, seems like a nice girl, but I dunno what it is. I can't connect with her at all.
Like A Star
08-10-2008
That was 6 years ago. Cheryl has improved greatly since then - plus she's said herself she isn't the most fantastic singer. To be part of a girl group you don't need to be vocally that strong anyway.
diamond1
08-10-2008
Originally Posted by Fenixx:
“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec0L6MOcyPU

Davina explains it in the first 20 seconds of this video. ”

I think that proves what a con the voting thing is .... if the lines were still open for the other girls after Cheryl was announced, when did they actually freeze the lines to count the votes to find the second girl through.

I get the feeling that they the first time they froze the lines they took the top 5 girls names as those through then just conned people into thinking that their votes after that would make a difference and counted.

Perhaps I'm a bit thick but what Davina said followed by the way the girls were announced makes no sense .. they would have to close the lines sometime in order to make an accurate readig at a certain point, but it appears that this didn't happen.
Fenixx
08-10-2008
Originally Posted by Like A Star:
“That was 6 years ago. Cheryl has improved greatly since then - plus she's said herself she isn't the most fantastic singer. To be part of a girl group you don't need to be vocally that strong anyway.”

In fact, you need to be quite the opposite. Can you imagine a group full of Christina Aguileras, Mariah Careys, Whitney Houstons, all caterwauling, ad-libbing all over the shop, trying out-do each other with vocal gymnastics...it'd be utter torture.
Fenixx
08-10-2008
Originally Posted by diamond1:
“I think that proves what a con the voting thing is .... if the lines were still open for the other girls after Cheryl was announced, when did they actually freeze the lines to count the votes to find the second girl through.

I get the feeling that they the first time they froze the lines they took the top 5 girls names as those through then just conned people into thinking that their votes after that would make a difference and counted.

Perhaps I'm a bit thick but what Davina said followed by the way the girls were announced makes no sense .. they would have to close the lines sometime in order to make an accurate readig at a certain point, but it appears that this didn't happen.”

Yeah, it's definitely shifty -- especially with text voting, which sometimes took a whole day to process. But there was an ad-break after it was down to Javine versus Sarah, so we can at least have some confidence that Javine was rightly voted off (and that Cheryl did have the most votes ).
Fashion
08-10-2008
Originally Posted by Fenixx:
“In fact, you need to be quite the opposite. Can you imagine a group full of Christina Aguileras, Mariah Careys, Whitney Houstons, all caterwauling, ad-libbing all over the shop, trying out-do each other with vocal gymnastics...it'd be utter torture. ”

You made me choke on my drink
Siannah
08-10-2008
Very average I must say. But a stunner she is.

I wish I had the youth back then!!
KMX
08-10-2008
The talent on these shows has increased so massively since 2002 so Cheryl was very lucky to get in while she did as she'd stand no chance these days. Of course her looks were the main factor in her choosing as there was more mention of how gorgeous she was than how her voice was in that clip!
Singy Thingy
08-10-2008
I agree that she isnt the strongest singer. She was off pitch in places in the popstars clip, but she has a nice even tone and the kind of voice that blends well with others.
She likely did get as far as she did largely because of her looks, but the thing is, she has the looks, and that is a factor weather we all think it should be or not.
She must have been a good choice for the band, because they havent exactly failed.
Nancy_Drew
08-10-2008
Cheryl's voice has improved a lot though. What she has, which many good singers don't, is pure star quality. Loads of pop stars who can't sing have star quality. Kylie has it.
Lush_Lola
08-10-2008
Omg I'm watching the other 4 performances and they are all terrible apart from Nadine!
Psychosis
08-10-2008
Originally Posted by Fenixx:
“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec0L6MOcyPU

Davina explains it in the first 20 seconds of this video. ”

Regardless of what she said, that actually didn't happen. The girls were announced within seconds of each other. There wasn't time for people to pick up the phone and dial, let alone for them to close the line, count and verify the votes, announce it to the studio, then tell Davina what to say, and have Davina announce it.
Lush_Lola
08-10-2008
I seriously cant get over how bad they were! damn my ears are full of blood
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