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Simon Says: "Cheryl Cole Is The Best Judge Ever"
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Nancy_Drew
08-10-2008
He really rates her highly. I think she's going to get a massive pay packet soon. Higher than Dannii's I'll bet.







But is Simon right? I think he is.
Amy86
08-10-2008
didnt he say something like that about dannii last year?
ZipGypsy
08-10-2008
Originally Posted by Nancy_Drew:
“He really rates her highly. I think she's going to get a massive pay packet soon. Higher than Dannii's I'll bet.

But is Simon right? I think he is.”

I think it's best to wait until the live shows.

I find that a) the song choices and b) the comments aftyer live performances are crucial for the judges' status.
Nancy_Drew
08-10-2008
Originally Posted by ZipGypsy:
“I think it's best to wait until the live shows.

I find that a) the song choices and b) the comments aftyer live performances are crucial for the judges' status.”

The judges don't choose the songs though. Not really.
ZipGypsy
08-10-2008
Originally Posted by Nancy_Drew:
“The judges don't choose the songs though. Not really.”

Yeah....maybe not. Sometimes they do though? Simon seems to have a big input there.
InMyArms
08-10-2008
Originally Posted by Nancy_Drew:
“He really rates her highly. I think she's going to get a massive pay packet soon. Higher than Dannii's I'll bet.”

Shes been offered £1m for the next series, apparantly 100k more than dannii
marianner
08-10-2008
Originally Posted by InMyArms:
“Shes been offered £1m for the next series, apparantly 100k more than dannii”

That wasn't true. X Factor denied saying they never discuss contracts and that they are signed in spring ever year.

I'm glad it's Cheryl and not Sharon
antalmax
08-10-2008
Originally Posted by Nancy_Drew:
“He really rates her highly. I think she's going to get a massive pay packet soon. Higher than Dannii's I'll bet.







But is Simon right? I think he is.”

The truth?

The producers have chosen Chryl as 'the Dannii of the series'.
Thus, she will make wise choices, have a lot of camera time, cry /sympathise with the auditionees and the...get a winner.

Keep this post till the finale.
Laura will win. Or Alexandra. Or Diana.

Girl/boy winnning year after year, remember?
Same as in AI.
marianner
08-10-2008
Originally Posted by antalmax:
“The truth?

The producers have chosen Chryl as 'the Dannii of the series'.
Thus, she will make wise choices, have a lot of camera time, cry /sympathise with the auditionees and the...get a winner.

Keep this post till the finale.
Laura will win. Or Alexandra. Or Diana.

Girl/boy winnning year after year, remember?
Same as in AI.”

So you're saying it's a fix?
I agree that she's the chosen one this series but I don't think the rest is fixed.
KMX
08-10-2008
Steve, Shayne, Leona, Leon - that's not boy/girl, boy/girl?

A lot of things in this show are manipulated but one thing that's never a fix are the votes!
Lucylock
08-10-2008
Originally Posted by Amy86:
“didnt he say something like that about dannii last year?”

I think so
jujubee
08-10-2008
I wonder how many Dannii fans will cry "fix" if Cherly turns out to have the winning act and is seen as a "Brilliant Mentor". Not that they would be wrong, but the SAME THING happened last year with Dannii. She got the best of everything, plus all the praise from Simon. It's all for publicity.

Privately, I bet Simon thinks either Pete Waterman, Louis ,or Randy Jackson is the best judge ever.

Who am I kidding? He thinks HE is the best judge ever. :rollseyes
Lucylock
08-10-2008
Originally Posted by jujubee:
“I wonder how many Dannii fans will cry "fix" if Cherly turns out to have the winning act and is seen as a "Brilliant Mentor". Not that they would be wrong, but the SAME THING happened last year with Dannii. She got the best of everything, plus all the praise from Simon. It's all for publicity.

Privately, I bet Simon thinks either Pete Waterman, Louis ,or Randy Jackson is the best judge ever.

Who am I kidding? He thinks HE is the best judge ever. :rollseyes”

I wouldn't think it was a fix if Cheryl won with one of her acts and that is comming from a Dannii fan
marianner
08-10-2008
Originally Posted by jujubee:
“I wonder how many Dannii fans will cry "fix" if Cherly turns out to have the winning act and is seen as a "Brilliant Mentor". Not that they would be wrong, but the SAME THING happened last year with Dannii. She got the best of everything, plus all the praise from Simon. It's all for publicity.

Privately, I bet Simon thinks either Pete Waterman, Louis ,or Randy Jackson is the best judge ever.

Who am I kidding? He thinks HE is the best judge ever. :rollseyes”

You don't really remember last year do you?
Dannii didn't get the same amount of good publicity as this new girl gets.
She was mocked heavily throughout the series and her boys were not considered the best.
The best were the over 25's and Sharons girls according to most. Dannii's boys took a lot of stick in the press, especially Rhydian.
Dannii was given a hard time from most and a yes, Simon did praise her but not really that much.
marianner
08-10-2008
Originally Posted by Lucylock:
“I wouldn't think it was a fix if Cheryl won with one of her acts and that is comming from a Dannii fan”

Neither would I
jujubee
08-10-2008
Originally Posted by marianner:
“You don't really remember last year do you?
Dannii didn't get the same amount of good publicity as this new girl gets.
She was mocked heavily throughout the series and her boys were not considered the best.
The best were the over 25's and Sharons girls according to most. Dannii's boys took a lot of stick in the press, especially Rhydian.
Dannii was given a hard time from most and a yes, Simon did praise her but not really that much.”

Oh please. It was ALLLL about Dannii last year.
marianner
08-10-2008
Originally Posted by jujubee:
“Oh please. Simon acted as if she was the second coming. It was ALLLL about Dannii last year.”

I can gladly post all the articles that was because I got them all.
Simon praised her in the beginning, but later he didn't say much.
It was when Louis & Sharon bullied her and it got too much that he reacted.

And he hired her for 2 shows so of course he thinks she's good, as he probably thinks Sharon is good, Louis and now Cheryl.
But to say that it was all about Dannii last year is a lie.

First of all almost all the newspapers were against her and the show itself, 'x marks the flop' 'Strictly much better than X' etc
This year it's a lot more 'X Factor is the best'
KatrinaK
08-10-2008
Originally Posted by jujubee:
“Oh please. It was ALLLL about Dannii last year.”

I disagree. Alot of it was Sharons weekly diva strops and Louis and Simons constant disagreements about same difference. Danni was pretty grounded last year, not making a fuss. She just got on with it.
marianner
08-10-2008
Originally Posted by KatrinaK:
“I disagree. Alot of it was Sharons weekly diva strops and Louis and Simons constant disagreements about same difference. Danni was pretty grounded last year, not making a fuss. She just got on with it.”

True. It was supposed to be about Dannii and Brian but instead of letting them shine, Sharon had to react like a baby craving all the attention.
Even when she got Louis back she continued.
Singy Thingy
08-10-2008
I dont really care much about the 'judges'/panto side of the show, but at least she has been through the process herself, so can understand things from the perspective of the contestants
Sib69
08-10-2008
i dont see how people can judge how good she is until the live shows

i still think dannii is gonna be good this year. yeah, she perhaps shouldnt have chosen danny, but she produced the 2 finalists last year. she is good at choosing songs for her acts
marianner
08-10-2008
Originally Posted by Sib69:
“i dont see how people can judge how good she is until the live shows

i still think dannii is gonna be good this year. yeah, she perhaps shouldnt have chosen danny, but she produced the 2 finalists last year. she is good at choosing songs for her acts”

I think this is more about the judges and the things is,
It's like a new girl in school. Everyone wants to know her, and everyone's focus is on her. That's natural.
Same here, of course X Factor wants to make Cheryl shine the most, she's new.

Why should Dannii have a problem with that? Or anyone.
Sharon Osbourne did and now everyone thinks it's the same with Dannii.

Now when the live shows starts it's all about focusing on the groups.
I think this will be a really good, positive year.
For all the judges and their groups.
Lucylock
08-10-2008
Originally Posted by KatrinaK:
“I disagree. Alot of it was Sharons weekly diva strops and Louis and Simons constant disagreements about same difference. Danni was pretty grounded last year, not making a fuss. She just got on with it.”

That is what I like about Dannii, she doesn't make a fuss. Even this year with Cheryl arriving, she has not been having diva strops like Sharon did last year and Dannii has even praised Cheryl.


http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/lates...5875-20783001/
Nancy_Drew
08-10-2008
Originally Posted by Lucylock:
“That is what I like about Dannii, she doesn't make a fuss. Even this year with Cheryl arriving, she has not been having diva strops like Sharon”


Yes but Dannii's management has approached the X Factor producers and asked them to have more Dannii footage in the show. Why do that unless they or Dannii felt threatened by Cheryl? And who do you think leaked that daft Dannii Fans Petition X Factor story to the tabloids? Dannii's management I bet.



There is rarely smoke without fire. There are too many Dannii Jealous Of Cheryl stories for them to be all false.
cryingshame
09-10-2008
I thought that Simon was talking about getting rid of danni next year and having Sharon back - as he thinks that Sharon and Cheryl would be an amazing combination.
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