What about grainy screen?

lawrenma2 · 09-10-2008, 11:43

I've just made an impulse purchase of the Sharp LC46X20E (46 LCD" & 1080p), and will be using Sky+, until Sky set up the HD.

Slightly concerned as my in-laws bought a 50" plasma Samsung PS50A457P1D about a year ago and get a really grainy picture via standard sky box.

I wondered if there is a change I'll get the same poor picture quality. Does anyone know?

bobcar · 09-10-2008, 11:57

I'm not sure what you mean by "grainy picture" as that doesn't describe to me the picture quality problems of SD on a large screen. Both those TVs are decent enough.

A lot depends on how far you sit from the screen as the further away you sit the smaller the screen will seem and the better the PQ. Also bear in mind that when you get HD you will still watch a lot of SD.

niall campbell · 09-10-2008, 12:34

RGB in sky set up will help

with a shielded scart

in a RGB scart socket on the telly

lawrenma2 · 09-10-2008, 12:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobcar

I'm not sure what you mean by "grainy picture" as that doesn't describe to me the picture quality problems of SD on a large screen. Both those TVs are decent enough.

A lot depends on how far you sit from the screen as the further away you sit the smaller the screen will seem and the better the PQ. Also bear in mind that when you get HD you will still watch a lot of SD.

It's sort of like the picture here, but not quite as bad: http://www.plasticbag.org/images/extra/grainy_three.jpg

Doesn't matter whether you're up close or further away - Looks like the picture you would get from an old crt with a bad aerial signal. I don't know why this happens but can't act the in-laws in case they're offended or don't see it as much.

Willie Wontie · 09-10-2008, 12:50

Sounds like they're watching via an analogue RF connection on channel 6 rather than via scart of any kind. And it's not tuned in properly either.

lawrenma2 · 09-10-2008, 12:56

Thanks, everyone for your help and advice - Sounds as if it's going to be ok anyway. If not, It'll be going straight back to Dixons

niall campbell · 09-10-2008, 13:19

yes digital reception should clear a lot of that up

are they watching DTV ?

or a cheap RF setup/ faulty lead.............. or aerial.......................... which wont be the fault of Dixons

Chris Frost · 09-10-2008, 13:23

niall, I think that the clue was in the OP's original post

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrenma2

...my in-laws bought a 50" plasma Samsung PS50A457P1D about a year ago and get a really grainy picture via standard sky box.

lawrenma2 · 09-10-2008, 13:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by niall campbell

yes digital reception should clear a lot of that up

are they watching DTV ?

or a cheap RF setup/ faulty lead.............. or aerial.......................... which wont be the fault of Dixons

They watch normal Sky via standard box and gold plated scart. TBH, it doesn't seem to bother them, I was just worried in case mine does this too

Nigel Goodwin · 09-10-2008, 14:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrenma2

They watch normal Sky via standard box and gold plated scart. TBH, it doesn't seem to bother them, I was just worried in case mine does this too

Well they wasted their money buying a gold plated SCART lead - but if it's grainy they probably aren't watching it correctly. It needs to be watched via RGB, and it sounds like they are watching via composite, or even RF.

bobcar · 09-10-2008, 14:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrenma2

They watch normal Sky via standard box and gold plated scart. TBH, it doesn't seem to bother them, I was just worried in case mine does this too

Based upon your picture (I know you said it's not actually as bad) that does look like analogue noise. Are you sure that although they have a gold plated SCART cable that they aren't actually watching via an RF cable by mistake or in fact they are even watching a terrestrial analogue signal? (It's actually surprisingly common).

Cthulhu · 10-10-2008, 09:50

My father in law had Freeview bought for him last christmas, found out it needed an aerial upgrade, (£150 ish)
When I went round in summer, I noticed quite a bad picture, On examination I noticed he was still watching via analogue, So I changed it over to AV1...Voila! digital pictures.
now, after 6 months, hes made up with his interference free programmes.

niall campbell · 10-10-2008, 11:29

6 months of rubbish pictures !!

thats patience

Nigel Goodwin · 10-10-2008, 11:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by niall campbell

6 months of rubbish pictures !!

As suggested by others, you'd be amazed how many people are watching via Composite or even RF.

09-10-2008, 11:43	#1
lawrenma2 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 3,772	What about grainy screen? I've just made an impulse purchase of the Sharp LC46X20E (46 LCD" & 1080p), and will be using Sky+, until Sky set up the HD. Slightly concerned as my in-laws bought a 50" plasma Samsung PS50A457P1D about a year ago and get a really grainy picture via standard sky box. I wondered if there is a change I'll get the same poor picture quality. Does anyone know?

09-10-2008, 11:57	#2
bobcar Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 14,718	I'm not sure what you mean by "grainy picture" as that doesn't describe to me the picture quality problems of SD on a large screen. Both those TVs are decent enough. A lot depends on how far you sit from the screen as the further away you sit the smaller the screen will seem and the better the PQ. Also bear in mind that when you get HD you will still watch a lot of SD.

09-10-2008, 12:34	#3
niall campbell Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Aberfeldy Posts: 7,035	RGB in sky set up will help with a shielded scart in a RGB scart socket on the telly

09-10-2008, 12:48	#4
lawrenma2 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 3,772	Quote: Originally Posted by bobcar I'm not sure what you mean by "grainy picture" as that doesn't describe to me the picture quality problems of SD on a large screen. Both those TVs are decent enough. A lot depends on how far you sit from the screen as the further away you sit the smaller the screen will seem and the better the PQ. Also bear in mind that when you get HD you will still watch a lot of SD. It's sort of like the picture here, but not quite as bad: http://www.plasticbag.org/images/extra/grainy_three.jpg Doesn't matter whether you're up close or further away - Looks like the picture you would get from an old crt with a bad aerial signal. I don't know why this happens but can't act the in-laws in case they're offended or don't see it as much.

09-10-2008, 12:50	#5
Willie Wontie Inactive Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,847	Sounds like they're watching via an analogue RF connection on channel 6 rather than via scart of any kind. And it's not tuned in properly either.

09-10-2008, 12:56	#6
lawrenma2 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 3,772	Thanks, everyone for your help and advice - Sounds as if it's going to be ok anyway. If not, It'll be going straight back to Dixons

09-10-2008, 13:19	#7
niall campbell Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Aberfeldy Posts: 7,035	yes digital reception should clear a lot of that up are they watching DTV ? or a cheap RF setup/ faulty lead.............. or aerial.......................... which wont be the fault of Dixons

09-10-2008, 13:23	#8
Chris Frost Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Cheshire Posts: 6,462	niall, I think that the clue was in the OP's original post Quote: Originally Posted by lawrenma2 ...my in-laws bought a 50" plasma Samsung PS50A457P1D about a year ago and get a really grainy picture via standard sky box.

09-10-2008, 13:26	#9
lawrenma2 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 3,772	Quote: Originally Posted by niall campbell yes digital reception should clear a lot of that up are they watching DTV ? or a cheap RF setup/ faulty lead.............. or aerial.......................... which wont be the fault of Dixons They watch normal Sky via standard box and gold plated scart. TBH, it doesn't seem to bother them, I was just worried in case mine does this too

09-10-2008, 14:29	#10
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by lawrenma2 They watch normal Sky via standard box and gold plated scart. TBH, it doesn't seem to bother them, I was just worried in case mine does this too Well they wasted their money buying a gold plated SCART lead - but if it's grainy they probably aren't watching it correctly. It needs to be watched via RGB, and it sounds like they are watching via composite, or even RF.

10-10-2008, 09:50	#12
Cthulhu Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cheshire Posts: 297	My father in law had Freeview bought for him last christmas, found out it needed an aerial upgrade, (£150 ish) When I went round in summer, I noticed quite a bad picture, On examination I noticed he was still watching via analogue, So I changed it over to AV1...Voila! digital pictures. now, after 6 months, hes made up with his interference free programmes.

10-10-2008, 11:29	#13
niall campbell Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Aberfeldy Posts: 7,035	6 months of rubbish pictures !! thats patience

10-10-2008, 11:56	#14
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by niall campbell 6 months of rubbish pictures !! As suggested by others, you'd be amazed how many people are watching via Composite or even RF.

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