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Leona, Beyonce and Christina Chart Battle: 3rd November
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spiidey
09-10-2008
A really tough week - Leona, Beyonce and Christina are all releasing new singles on the same day, and Leona faces some stiff competition for another #1 as both Beyonce's and Xtina's are really good, particularly Beyonce's.

All 3 can be found here:

Leona Lewis - Forgive Me
Beyonce - If I Were A Boy
Christina Aguilera - Keeps Gettin' Better

Which will do better?
Sidespin Nid
09-10-2008
I hope it'll be Leona. The X Factor should giver her a little boost plus her UK fanbase should increase her chances of being #1 too.
BrokenArrow
09-10-2008
Isn't Bintney releasing on that day as well?
rebel yell
09-10-2008
Beyonce hopefully. I think Leona's song is pretty awful but will get to numero 3 for being Leona, yes she has that kind of status now! Christina's is i think 5 or something. Bey's after listening to the song all day today i love but i dont think the masses will lap it up so probably number 4, hopefully.

So Leona wins.
spiidey
09-10-2008
Originally Posted by BrokenArrow:
“Isn't Bintney releasing on that day as well?”

She's been put back to the 24th AFAIK. Not sure if that's related to either the download or the physical, or both.
SamW25
09-10-2008
If Leona's song was a standalone single (ie not promoted by X Factor) then I think it wouldn't even make it into the top 5.

It will be interesting to see how Girls Aloud chart when their new one is out.
Psychosis
09-10-2008
Probably Leona, unfortunately.

What I'd really like to know about that song is whether there's anybody who can understand a WORD she's mumbling I thought Beyonce and Christina had poor diction, but WOW!
Jonners17
09-10-2008
Originally Posted by spiidey:
“A really tough week - Leona, Beyonce and Christina are all releasing new singles on the same day, and Leona faces some stiff competition for another #1 as both Beyonce's and Xtina's are really good, particularly Beyonce's.

All 3 can be found here:

Leona Lewis - Forgive Me
Beyonce - If I Were A Boy
Christina Aguilera - Keeps Gettin' Better

Which will do better?”

thats a toughie...........I think its possible none of them will reach the top spot, leona's new single isn't really wonderful......I think the video is very gimmicky and americanised as well.

This is the first time i've heard the beyonce song :-S she doesn't really have huge sales in the UK, shes the kinda act thats a week in/week out, when it comes to chart success...

as for christina, its hard to tell. the last album didn't really spawn out as many hits as "stripped." If I recall the only single of back to basics to reach the top 5 was "ain't no other man."

when is the release date of the XF single???? if its before the 3rd i'd say they'd fight them off!
spiidey
09-10-2008
Originally Posted by Psychosis:
“Probably Leona, unfortunately.

What I'd really like to know about that song is whether there's anybody who can understand a WORD she's mumbling I thought Beyonce and Christina had poor diction, but WOW!”

Lol, yeah that's probably the main thing she needs to work on for her next album. The lyrics took me (or, ok, someone else posted them for me) a while to get
spiidey
09-10-2008
Originally Posted by Jonners17:
“thats a toughie...........I think its possible none of them will reach the top spot, leona's new single isn't really wonderful......I think the video is very gimmicky and americanised as well.

This is the first time i've heard the beyonce song :-S she doesn't really have huge sales in the UK, shes the kinda act thats a week in/week out, when it comes to chart success...

as for christina, its hard to tell. the last album didn't really spawn out as many hits as "stripped." If I recall the only single of back to basics to reach the top 5 was "ain't no other man."

when is the release date of the XF single???? if its before the 3rd i'd say they'd fight them off!”

27th October I think.
superstar111
09-10-2008
Christinas is the best imo
Jonners17
09-10-2008
Originally Posted by spiidey:
“27th October I think.”

I'm sure they can manage 2 weeks at number 1, easily! The publicity for XF is ongoing-nonstop, and since its for a good cause I can see it selling bucket loads. regardless of how good/bad it may sound.
Jonners17
09-10-2008
Originally Posted by superstar111:
“Christinas is the best imo”

shes mine as well, I hope the album is better than the last one. I thought back to basics was abit pants.
spiidey
09-10-2008
It'll be interesting to see how well the X Factor charity single does. The charity thing they done on Pop Idol didn't do well at all with all 12 of them on it, and sometimes that just doesn't appeal at all.

Just look at the huge charity single for breast cancer that the likes of Beyonce, Mariah, Rihanna, Carrie Underwood, Leona, Mary J Blige, Fergie etc done - that didn't exactly set the charts alight.
Jonners17
09-10-2008
Originally Posted by spiidey:
“It'll be interesting to see how well the X Factor charity single does. The charity thing they done on Pop Idol didn't do well at all with all 12 of them on it, and sometimes that just doesn't appeal at all.

Just look at the huge charity single for breast cancer that the likes of Beyonce, Mariah, Rihanna, Carrie Underwood, Leona, Mary J Blige, Fergie etc done - that didn't exactly set the charts alight.”

hmmmm.......I suppose, the pop idol one was such a long time ago now. I'm sure the XF will have found a much more profitable way to market it (or shove it down our throats). you can tell by the anticipation that people are already interested. no one was particularly bothered by the Pop Idol one....

As for the breast cancer song, your right...but to be fair that song is AWFUL, I want to cut my ears off when it gets to the Fergie solo (This song is currently on a 30minute rotation at my work....)
Last edited by Jonners17 : 09-10-2008 at 22:54
spiidey
09-10-2008
Awww I like the Breast Cancer song - its really quite good

Although you're not the only person I've heard comment on that Fergie solo - having said that, most people go for the Miley Cyrus bit as the most annoying
Jonners17
09-10-2008
Originally Posted by spiidey:
“Awww I like the Breast Cancer song - its really quite good

Although you're not the only person I've heard comment on that Fergie solo - having said that, most people go for the Miley Cyrus bit as the most annoying ”

I'm sure you can understand that when you've heard the same song about a 100times a day it begins to grate on you....even when you liked the song to begin with. heheheh
spiidey
09-10-2008
lol, yeah, depends on that song's burn-out rate for you
C14E
09-10-2008
I only heard Beyonce's for the first time on Radio One this morning. It went down badly with the team on R1, although it did grow on me a bit as it went on. My problem with it is that it feels like a second or third single as oppose to the lead single. It's preferrable to the mess that Deja Vu was, but nothing thrilling.

I really like the start of Christina's, but then it disappoints with about one line appealing to me and the rest is a bit tedious.

I daresay I'll be slated for it, but I think Leona's is the best although it would have been better suited to the summer than winter.
Ethereal
09-10-2008
Originally Posted by Psychosis:
“Probably Leona, unfortunately.

What I'd really like to know about that song is whether there's anybody who can understand a WORD she's mumbling I thought Beyonce and Christina had poor diction, but WOW!”

Christina diction is FAR worse than Leona's. 'Fighter' is so hard to understand and it's sung at a slower speed than 'Forgive Me'.
Psychosis
09-10-2008
Originally Posted by Ethereal:
“Christina diction is FAR worse than Leona's. 'Fighter' is so hard to understand and it's sung at a slower speed than 'Forgive Me'.”

lol, no and no to both of those. I'm not exaggerating when I say I can't understand A WORD of Forgive Me. I can't even figure out if she actually sings the words "forgive me" in the song. And again, no, Fighter is a faster, more forceful song.

With that said, I'm not saying Leona is always like this. I don't think her diction isn't awful, but it's not usually this bad.
BrokenArrow
09-10-2008
Beyonce's new tune is great, much better than anything she's done before.

I have seen a few comments around the net thats she's taking a lead from Leona Lewis - lol.
Ethereal
10-10-2008
Originally Posted by Psychosis:
“lol, no and no to both of those. I'm not exaggerating when I say I can't understand A WORD of Forgive Me. I can't even figure out if she actually sings the words "forgive me" in the song. And again, no, Fighter is a faster, more forceful song.

With that said, I'm not saying Leona is always like this. I don't think her diction isn't awful, but it's not usually this bad.”

I disagree with everything you just said.

I found 'Forgive Me' quite easy to understand to be honest. It is a fast-paced song, the verses especially, but she is lightyears better than Christina in the diction department IMO.

And sorry but I think you are exaggerating seen as though she says "hope you forgive me" numerous times during the chorus. Even with the layered vocals it's pretty clear. Unless you've only heard it once or something but I'd still find it astonishing you couldn't hear her say that at least once.
BrokenArrow
10-10-2008
Originally Posted by Psychosis:
“lol, no and no to both of those. I'm not exaggerating when I say I can't understand A WORD of Forgive Me. I can't even figure out if she actually sings the words "forgive me" in the song. And again, no, Fighter is a faster, more forceful song.

With that said, I'm not saying Leona is always like this. I don't think her diction isn't awful, but it's not usually this bad.”

Fighter is 94 BPM,
Forgive me is 120 BPM

Its quite a bit more uptemp0.
Ethereal
10-10-2008
Originally Posted by BrokenArrow:
“Beyonce's new tune is great, much better than anything she's done before.

I have seen a few comments around the net thats she's taking a lead from Leona Lewis - lol.”

Beyonce's new song reminds me of Rihanna's Take A Bow. Although it's much better as Beyonce actually has a good voice. I didn't think much to it at first but it's growing on me a lot.
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