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Cat charity loses millions in Icelandic crash
tomharry2
10-10-2008
They got millions in the bank?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4921578.ece

what is left to say?
good shepherd
10-10-2008
Originally Posted by tomharry2:
“They got millions in the bank?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4921578.ece

what is left to say? ”

I do see your point, I really do.

The bigger charities have to employ people and offer services. You can't go around waving a collection tin as a way to fund next months wages for your staff. Neither could you offer free cat neutering service if you kept running out of money to pay for it.

These jobs and services are payed for (partly) out of the interest of large amounts deposited.

I pay a monthly donation to the CPL as well as to many other animal charities. They do bloody good work, and I would be horrified if this was affected.
blueblade
10-10-2008
Originally Posted by tomharry2:
“They got millions in the bank?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4921578.ece

what is left to say? ”

I don't know. The Cat's Protection League do a sterling job.

I totally agree with this sentiment from the article:-

Quote:
“Cats Protection believes there is a case to be made to the Treasury that its particular deposits are public money that has been donated for us to help cats and provide benefits to the public. The charity feels strongly that public deposits should be safeguarded."”

good shepherd
10-10-2008
Originally Posted by blueblade:
“I totally agree with this sentiment from the article:-”

Public money should not be used in this case. I do however hope for a happy outcome.
Give It Up
10-10-2008
Originally Posted by tomharry2:
“They got millions in the bank?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4921578.ece

what is left to say? ”

Of course they have bank accounts where they put their collections in order to gain interest and be able to pay staff, bills, etc.

How else do you expect these charities to survive beyond one week?
Steve™
10-10-2008
Originally Posted by good shepherd:
“Public money should not be used in this case. I do however hope for a happy outcome.”

I agree. It is cats after all
BatBatBaby
10-10-2008
Originally Posted by good shepherd:
“Public money should not be used in this case. I do however hope for a happy outcome.”

No, of course not. Public money should be used to bail out the children's hospices where parents of terminally ill children can put them while they enjoy a holiday without them

Before anyone jumps down my throat, I have worked in two and unfortunately (and this doesn't go for all parents) they are not used by many parents for the purpose that they are intended but instead for them to be able to get away from the "burden" of a terminally ill child for while.

Originally Posted by Steve™:
“I agree. It is cats after all”

That's right. They're only living beings that could bring joy into some people's lives given the chance. Why bother?
good shepherd
10-10-2008
Originally Posted by BatBatBaby:
“Before anyone jumps down my throat, I have worked in two and unfortunately (and this doesn't go for all parents) they are not used by many parents for the purpose that they are intended but instead for them to be able to get away from the "burden" of a terminally ill child for while.”

If you were working in them, it was probably as a cleaner.. Some parents do use them for respite care, but only after looking after the child/adult day in day out for many months. In my experince the decision to lead them is only after many weeks of friends family and doctor pleading with them to do so.
good shepherd
10-10-2008
Originally Posted by BatBatBaby:
“That's right. They're only living beings that could bring joy into some people's lives given the chance. Why bother? ”

Because people are more important than animals.
davidseven
11-10-2008
20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing. All of a sudden Britain is knee deep in financial experts. Charities, councils, pensioners and thousands of others put savings into banks, We all take advice on the best places to invest, And contrary to public opinion everyone from the FSA and bank regulatory authorities downwards gave Icelandic banks a thumbs up.

Blaming the depositors for having the temerity to take these expert institutions word, That these banks were as safe as any other regulated bank, Is really beyond the pale.

Until a few months ago putting savings into any bank was seen as the ONLY truly safe investment compared to property or shares.
The fault lies with the defaulting bank and certainly not with charities doing the right and proper thing with our donations.
Nurse Betty
11-10-2008
Originally Posted by good shepherd:
“Because people are more important than animals.”

Oh what a surprise to find you here

In YOUR opinion.

Hypothetical situation: An animal and a child are drowing. The animal is my pet, the child is nothing to do with me. Who do I save? My pet. I won't miss the child because I never knew it. End of. Call me selfish or tell me I've got my priorities wrong. They are my priorities and it's my opinion and unlike a certain person, I am not about to start trying to ram it down people's throats ad nauseum. How do you like it, gs, when someone else posts something for the sake of a reaction?

Originally Posted by good shepherd:
“If you were working in them, it was probably as a cleaner.. Some parents do use them for respite care, but only after looking after the child/adult day in day out for many months. In my experince the decision to lead them is only after many weeks of friends family and doctor pleading with them to do so.”

Hospitals, despite all the criticisms, do a great job. Hospices do too when used for the right reasons but they are unfortunately too often the recourse of the lazy, selfish and careless or those who "can't bear to watch their loved one die".

Originally Posted by davidseven:
“20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing. All of a sudden Britain is knee deep in financial experts. Charities, councils, pensioners and thousands of others put savings into banks, We all take advice on the best places to invest, And contrary to public opinion everyone from the FSA and bank regulatory authorities downwards gave Icelandic banks a thumbs up.

Blaming the depositors for having the temerity to take these expert institutions word, That these banks were as safe as any other regulated bank, Is really beyond the pale.

Until a few months ago putting savings into any bank was seen as the ONLY truly safe investment compared to property or shares.
The fault lies with the defaulting bank and certainly not with charities doing the right and proper thing with our donations.”


Well said. Though I wouldn't say that until a few months ago property wouldn't have been seen as a better investment. You would have to deposit a huge amount in a bank or get an extremely high rate of interest for your savings to accrue in a bank at a similar rate to what the increase in value in a property would be.
tomharry2
11-10-2008
Originally Posted by Nurse Betty:
“Oh what a surprise to find you here

In YOUR opinion.

Hypothetical situation: An animal and a child are drowing. The animal is my pet, the child is nothing to do with me. Who do I save? My pet. I won't miss the child because I never knew it. End of. Call me selfish or tell me I've got my priorities wrong. They are my priorities and it's my opinion and unlike a certain person, I am not about to start trying to ram it down people's throats ad nauseum. How do you like it, gs, when someone else posts something for the sake of a reaction?



Hospitals, despite all the criticisms, do a great job. Hospices do too when used for the right reasons but they are unfortunately too often the recourse of the lazy, selfish and careless or those who "can't bear to watch their loved one die".”

so now we know what kind of person you are. I am beginning to think that most cat vlovers on this site are cut from the same cloth.

To save a cat and let a human child drown is the worst that one can suggest on this site. Shame on you. Your attitude is contemptible and inhuman.
good shepherd
11-10-2008
Originally Posted by Nurse Betty:
“In YOUR opinion. ”

Yes, in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Nurse Betty:
“
Hypothetical situation: An animal and a child are drowing. The animal is my pet, the child is nothing to do with me. Who do I save? My pet. I won't miss the child because I never knew it. End of. Call me selfish or tell me I've got my priorities wrong. They are my priorities and it's my opinion and unlike a certain person, I am not about to start trying to ram it down people's throats ad nauseum. How do you like it, gs, when someone else posts something for the sake of a reaction?”

Selfish would not begin to describe how evil your suggested course of action would be. Fortunately I can guarantee you will not be able to find one other person on DS who shares your sick view.



Originally Posted by Nurse Betty:
“Hospitals, despite all the criticisms, do a great job. Hospices do too when used for the right reasons but they are unfortunately too often the recourse of the lazy, selfish and careless or those who "can't bear to watch their loved one die".”

Any evidence?
I think you are simply making things up to suit your own twisted world view.
tomharry2
11-10-2008
Originally Posted by tomharry2:
“so now we know what kind of person you are. I am beginning to think that most cat vlovers on this site are cut from the same cloth.

To save a cat and let a human child drown is the worst that one can suggest on this site. Shame on you. Your attitude is contemptible and inhuman.”


and illegal. To walk away from a scene of an accident (ie a child drowning) is a crime.

And that comes from a person who calls herself/himself nurse betty.
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