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Old 11-10-2008, 23:41
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It didn't influence anything - the judges didn't even mention the performances A complete waste of time for the girls really. In future, the judges need to at least acknowledge their second performances!
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Old 11-10-2008, 23:44
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I love the fact they sung the second songs but yes, the judges do need to at least comment on it. I thought that Girlband were fantastic on their second song and thats now made me quite a fan of them. Bad Lashes really fell apart on Wonderwall which surprised me.
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Old 11-10-2008, 23:50
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I loved the fact that they sang a second song, if nothing else it gave another side to the acts. In previous years the act to go in show 1 has been really disadvantaged. At least Bad Lashes can say the sang two songs on the X Factor. Roberta, Addictiv Ladies, Unconventionals and Kimberley only sang once.
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Old 11-10-2008, 23:51
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It made it more interesting. I actually listened to their efforts for once, which I don't usually.
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Old 11-10-2008, 23:53
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For the record, I was glad they sang a second time - but the judges made it pointless and it annoyed me
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Old 12-10-2008, 00:07
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I actually like the idea of a different song, as singing the SAME song - that failed earlier - really does seem pointless !
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Old 12-10-2008, 00:10
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It's also another one in the bank for the surviving act. The voting public will remember the performance.
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Old 12-10-2008, 00:13
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I´ve a feeling its all about letting the judges off the hook. Danii and Simon both made atrocious song choices - if their people had been in the sing off at least they had a get-out clause ....if they lost the sing-off it would be losing on their own choice of song as opposed to the songs their mentors chose for them.
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Old 12-10-2008, 00:39
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I actualy thought it is a good move to give the acts a second chance with the judges with a second song but I dont think the judges should have a decision vote anyway it should be the lowest public vote goes thats the fairest way
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Old 12-10-2008, 00:41
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I liked the second song, but agree that the judges need to comment on it for it to serve any purpose in the competition.
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Old 12-10-2008, 05:24
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I think that Girlband practiced their second song more than Bad Lashes, they were up first (Bat position) and were odds on favourites to go. Bad Lashes were on towards the end, and werent favourites to go.
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Old 12-10-2008, 06:48
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It didn't influence anything - the judges didn't even mention the performances A complete waste of time for the girls really. In future, the judges need to at least acknowledge their second performances!
It was pointless this weak, as both groups are pretty dire, yet say for example one week you get two strong acts in the bottom two, they can really go ahead to ahead and sing the songs which suit their voices.

But if you get two acts which are just crap singers, it doesn't make any difference (which you saw tonight)
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Old 12-10-2008, 07:51
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It was pointless this weak, as both groups are pretty dire, yet say for example one week you get two strong acts in the bottom two, they can really go ahead to ahead and sing the songs which suit their voices.

But if you get two acts which are just crap singers, it doesn't make any difference (which you saw tonight)

It would not make any difference in this case whether the judges commented or whether they sung different songs , the same sung or not at all, as it was decided on the public vote that was already in. So in reality once Louie decided not to vote the loser had already been chosen.

The singing ws just to fill the time slot out.
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Old 12-10-2008, 08:16
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Bob22A - without any singing, their wouldn't be a timeslot, unless they just showed the sob stories, or tales about being bullied.

Sure, it will be a waste of time if every week the final judge always goes with the choice which puts it to the public vote, yet as the comp gets to the final stages, we can only hope certain judges have some balls and boot out the dead wood.

Still pleased they brought in this new "twist" as it at least allows the acts to perform their own style live on TV.
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Old 12-10-2008, 09:08
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im glad they sung new songs...the old ones were boring anyway
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Old 12-10-2008, 10:02
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It's more interesting for the audience, but the judges didn't seem to take the second song into account at all.

I do think they should be allowed to though - imagine if Scott had had to sing Yeah Yeah again after all the "It's not your fault but that song choice was rubbish" comments - even from his own mentor!

So, yes, I'm in favour of the change, but the judging needs to take the second performance into account.
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Old 12-10-2008, 10:06
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I think the point of the second song, as someone has already said, is so that the singers can't complain it was entirely the mentor's song choice that made them fail. If they choose their own song and STILL get thrown out, then they should know they deserve it. As for the judges not commenting on it, there's no point - the comments are designed to influence the public vote, not for the contestants, so if there's no public vote, why comment? It just rubs salt in the wound for the losing singer(s).
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Old 12-10-2008, 10:09
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I think the point of the second song, as someone has already said, is so that the singers can't complain it was entirely the mentor's song choice that made them fail. If they choose their own song and STILL get thrown out, then they should know they deserve it. As for the judges not commenting on it, there's no point - the comments are designed to influence the public vote, not for the contestants, so if there's no public vote, why comment? It just rubs salt in the wound for the losing singer(s).
Susie, while I agree, the point people are making is that the public vote is counted before the second song is sang, therefore it only makes a difference, if the act is voted out by the judges, rather then "deadlock" taking place and it going down to who had the less votes.

For example, if louis had enough balls, he would have sent home the group he felt was the weakest.
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Old 12-10-2008, 10:12
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Susie, while I agree, the point people are making is that the public vote is counted before the second song is sang, therefore it only makes a difference, if the act is voted out by the judges, rather then "deadlock" taking place and it going down to who had the less votes.

For example, if louis had enough balls, he would have sent home the group he felt was the weakest.
I think the bit about the balls says it all as far as Louis is concerned!! He and Sharon have always played the "I can't choose, it's not fair" card, but I guess you have to accept it as part of the game. Maybe they really need to have an odd number of judges - perhaps the four mentors and one other independent one.
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Old 12-10-2008, 10:45
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Having to sing the same song again when normally it's bad and the reason they are in the bottom 2 was a joke

I think it's a good change and makes the results show better regardless of whether the judges really care about the 2nd performance
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Old 12-10-2008, 12:05
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The only point is that they crew don't have to set the stage twice for two different performances. That's it. But I like the change all the same.
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Old 14-10-2008, 16:16
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Another option would be for BOTH acts in the bottom two sing the same song ( third) so we could compare the two ??
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Old 14-10-2008, 17:04
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Another option would be for BOTH acts in the bottom two sing the same song ( third) so we could compare the two ??
In some ways that would be fair, but the downside to this is if you have two entirely different acts in the bottom 2. Rhydian and Same Difference as an example, one song couldn't suit both acts. SD would have struggled with a Phantom type song and Rhydian would have struggled with a full on pop type song. It could end up favouring one act over the other, which would be unfair.

I think its a good idea they chose their song, if they still make a hash of something they think suits them, then its time for tubby bye bye.
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Old 14-10-2008, 17:30
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I agree with Spider - I thought the fact they both sang different songs, which made it more interesting, but the judges didnt comment afterwards All Simon said was "they were both shocking" - real constructive And the others just moaned about how tough it was to decide.
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Old 14-10-2008, 17:41
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I don't think there is any point singing a second song if the viewers don't have the right to vote between them.

Then again I've never seen the point in the bottom two singing again anyway.
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