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Lcd Or Plasma?
Been looking at my fave electronic website and they have totally slashedtheir prices on LCD tv.
Have been looking to upgrade the 32" to maybe 37 or 40. Samsung series 5 "40 is on there for £550. but rumours suggest plasma is better at that size. Is this true? |
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For me it would be
37" - Panasonic PX80 plasma or Panasonic LCD, also the Toshiba XV LCD's 40" - Sony LCD 42"- too many to choose from.... PX80 again probably. I don't think there is that much between plasma and lcd these days, and I'm sure you'd be happy with whatever you end up with. |
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Last edited by roddydogs : 14-10-2008 at 07:56. Reason: wrong |
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In spite of the numbers, plasma still has the edge in black level and contrast in the real world, though there is sufficient variation between manufacturers to cover this up. A cheap and nasty plasma is not going to be anywhere close to a top LCD, I mean by that. Beware the shop demo under bright lights in dynamic mode, it won't look like that in your living room.
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As you've got HD, LCD is generally far better on HD, but Plasma tends to be better on SD - but a decent make and model of either will be reasonable on both.
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LCD for me, can't be bothered worrying about screen burn.
I'd probably get fixated on the endless on screen logos and wonder what they were doing to my TV.
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As you've got HD, LCD is generally far better on HD, but Plasma tends to be better on SD - but a decent make and model of either will be reasonable on both.
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The blacks on my Samsung 46 full HD LCD are amazing, I was expecting wishy washy grey listening to the way people go on about this.
My model is not even the best in their lineup, I'm watching Project Catwalk right now and the detail and contrast between colours is superb. Reminds me of Spinal Tap, how more black could that be, the answer is not very.
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The blacks on my Samsung 46 full HD LCD are amazing, I was expecting wishy washy grey listening to the way people go on about this.
My model is not even the best in their lineup, I'm watching Project Catwalk right now and the detail and contrast between colours is superb. Reminds me of Spinal Tap, how more black could that be, the answer is not very. ![]() I had always been a Sony CRT fan due to their excellent blacks so when I decided to go LCD & HD I did an awful lot of viewing on both Plasma & LCD & had almost resigned myself to plasma until I found this model Samsung, the blacks are truly outstanding & everyone who see's it has to admit they have never seen such good black & colour definition. Quite different to the awful "Shop" mode they come out of the Box with! when I unpacked mine initially I thought it was faulty until I got rid of the Dynamic everything!
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For most of the pro's, it's not so much the product we don't like, but Samsung the company. Disgraceful after sales. I refuse to sell them, as if something goes wrong you are on your own. Warrnties disavowed at 367 days, so if it goes tits up a day out of 1 yr warranty, I'd be liable. No, thank you very much.
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For most of the pro's, it's not so much the product we don't like, but Samsung the company. Disgraceful after sales. I refuse to sell them, as if something goes wrong you are on your own. Warrnties disavowed at 367 days, so if it goes tits up a day out of 1 yr warranty, I'd be liable. No, thank you very much.
On a personal note i have found the Service to be very good within warranty but assume they will be like most other manufacturers as soon as the Guarantee runs out! in that they don't want to know (I have had this from two Big Name main stream companies). |
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I'm utterly in disagreement with this I'm afraid. LCDs can be bright and brash and over sharp, and if you like that fair enough. It's not exactly natural looking though. Calibrated, they rarely have a decent greyscale gradation, and never go as black as is made out.
Anything can be bright and brash if you set it that way!
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If that's the case I can clearly see where you are coming from! back up to the trade is all important. Are they so different to other manufacturers though in this respect? (Genuine question)
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They need to be sharp to give good HD, Plasma's are much less sharp, blurring the artifacts and giving better SD, but much poorer on HD.
Anything can be bright and brash if you set it that way! ![]() and don't say calibration
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So why is my PZ81 so much better for HD than my W4000?
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and don't say calibration
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So why is my PZ81 so much better for HD than my W4000?
HD on my (meagre) 40" U3000 looks great to me. On my mates 42" Plasma though it doesn't look nearly as well defined ..... or as good ..... to me. Mind you, the 42" plasma in question is a Philips ...... which may well have something to do with it! |
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I always thought (although I am probably wrong here as I'm no expert) that the general rule of thumb was that 40" and below LCD is generally better like for like, and over 40" plasma has the edge.
However my friend has a 42" panny plasma and I have a 37" LG LCD, and mine looks so much better than his. We both have a Wii and when playing mine looks sharper with richer colours and blacker blacks. True, this might be to do with the way they are both set up, but I was expecting his to blow mine out of the water, especially as it cost £300 more! |
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To be honest I've got alot of time for samsung, not just because they all look ace but they have never failed to impress with the quality of the picture, see a fair few in the field and would say that thery are close to panasonic at being the most popular too.
Not going anywhere near sony, never had any faith in them, and don't they get alot of their components from other manufacturers now?? Think I'll get a series 6 42" LCD then, much lighter too so wall mount will be alot cheaper too. plus I wouldn't be worrying about 15 or more KG's instead of about 8 or 9 on the chimmney breast. |
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Nigel, none taken re calibration. Well, nor anything else, this is a place for discussing exactly such things after all. As a CI professional, I always calibrate my customer's screens as part of thr install. I'm not ISF qualified, and take no huge trouble with it, it's 45 mins to an hour usually, whilst we finish and test the remote control. It will leave them with brightness, contrast and sharpness correctly set, and colour balance very much in the ball park. I too think ISF is for the serious enthusiast. If you want to pay for the ultimate viewing experience, fine.
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I use a Samsung monitor on my PC and I have to say, the picture on that is fantastic.
If they can translate that quality onto their TV's, I don't see why they should be damn good as well. Unfortunately, the only Samsung LCD I've ever seen actually running, the guy hadn't configured it at all from the factory settings. It looked like someone was pointing a military searchlight at the back of the picture. It was almost sticking out of the screen it was so bright. |
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I'm thinking of buying 3, one for each of the spare bedrooms, do you think they will offer a small discount?
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