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Old 14-10-2008, 23:36
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Diana was never pencilled in to win this year's X-Factor. Alexandra hot favourite, plus Austin strong contender, put in as two of the first four acts of the night, leaving the dreaded kiss of death for Girlband and Danni Evans as the other two weak acts in the first four, and hence being pushed subtlely towards the X-Factor trap door. It didn't go to plan, as there just aren't votes out there for groups of girls.

Alexandra and Austin up first, and then Laura put on the very last to close out the night, Diana was the least favoured of the three, getting the middle draw. (Alexandra was put up early with the expectancy that she was way too strong to be at risk).

Straight in came Simon's cheesy pre-scripted line about Diana being like "Marmite, people are either going to love it or hate it", followed by the choice his scriptwriters had given him to choose either love or hate, when he says "Diana, I loved it". However, he deviates from the pre-written script, goes into detail, and then says "I actually thought it was fantastic".

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=olIOyG...eature=related


Reminiscent vocally of the girl from the Cranberries in my book (Dolores O'Riordan?), I actually really hope she wins. She's absolutely brilliant.

Problem is that the voters are tedious, and will inevitably vote with their oestrogen for austin and eggnog, the latter having the cutesy george sampson factor. Leona ONLY got 62% against ray quinn's 38%. Crazy.

Can't wait to buy Diana's album.
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Old 14-10-2008, 23:41
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Diana was never pencilled in to win this year's X-Factor. Alexandra hot favourite, plus Austin strong contender, put in as two of the first four acts of the night, leaving the dreaded kiss of death for Girlband and Danni Evans as the other two weak acts in the first four, and hence being pushed subtlely towards the X-Factor trap door. It didn't go to plan, as there just aren't votes out there for groups of girls.
I agree about pre-scripted lines, but to be honest you have no idea what she was "pencilled" in for. They aren't always that blatent and sometimes like a dark horse to come through (just look at Rhydian). They may well love her to bits ... as a Diana fan i'm sure you wouldn't be complaining.

Austin/Alexandra ... never meant to win the thing. You always get them positive editing a few that won't get it to mount up a bit of suspsene and surprise. You can see from the look of Austin he isn't strong enough or commercial enough for them. I think the "chosen ones" are probably Laura/Diana.
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Old 14-10-2008, 23:42
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I won't be voting for Austin - he gives me the creeps AND I can't stand crybabies
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Old 14-10-2008, 23:43
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Diana was never pencilled in to win this year's X-Factor. Alexandra hot favourite, plus Austin strong contender, put in as two of the first four acts of the night, leaving the dreaded kiss of death for Girlband and Danni Evans as the other two weak acts in the first four, and hence being pushed subtlely towards the X-Factor trap door. It didn't go to plan, as there just aren't votes out there for groups of girls.

Alexandra and Austin up first, and then Laura put on the very last to close out the night, Diana was the least favoured of the three, getting the middle draw. (Alexandra was put up early with the expectancy that she was way too strong to be at risk).

Straight in came Simon's cheesy pre-scripted line about Diana being like "Marmite, people are either going to love it or hate it", followed by the choice his scriptwriters had given him to choose either love or hate, when he says "Diana, I loved it". However, he deviates from the pre-written script, goes into detail, and then says "I actually thought it was fantastic".

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=olIOyG...eature=related


Reminiscent vocally of the girl from the Cranberries in my book (Dolores O'Riordan?), I actually really hope she wins. She's absolutely brilliant.

Problem is that the voters are tedious, and will inevitably vote with their oestrogen for austin and eggnog, the latter having the cutesy george sampson factor. Leona ONLY got 62% against ray quinn's 38%. Crazy.

Can't wait to buy Diana's album.

Really? That's shocking, IMO, she's hundreds of times a better vocalist than him (but saying that I did actually vote for Ray in the final, cos I met him in The Met Quarter lift in Liverpool that week)!!
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Old 14-10-2008, 23:50
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I agree about pre-scripted lines, but to be honest you have no idea what she was "pencilled" in for. They aren't always that blatent and sometimes like a dark horse to come through (just look at Rhydian). They may well love her to bits ... as a Diana fan i'm sure you wouldn't be complaining.

Austin/Alexandra ... never meant to win the thing. You always get them positive editing a few that won't get it to mount up a bit of suspsene and surprise. You can see from the look of Austin he isn't strong enough or commercial enough for them. I think the "chosen ones" are probably Laura/Diana.
Simon is easy to read. This was another cheesy line, reminiscent of his line to Nikitta Angus about how her singing was like a chinese takeaway (punchline: it left him wanting more even after he'd eaten it). It was a rubbish line, as was the marmite line. The penny dropped that Diana was actually outstanding, and he had to tear up the script.

X-Factor is carefully constructed, and it didn't quite go to plan this week, with Danny Evans escaping the chop despite them wanting him in the bottom two with GirlBand. When Diana is in the middle four, she hasn't been pencilled in as the most desirable winner from the line-up. I hope that changes, and I think it may well do.


As for Austin, well, if Leon can win, then any half decent white male has a massive advantage over female singers and groups.
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Old 14-10-2008, 23:52
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I think the public are behind her tbh. She has picked up a hell of a let of support online and in the real world, and I hope she gets to the top 5 cos she will be the most successfull this year I reckon.
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Old 14-10-2008, 23:53
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Leon probably won cause of all the whole of Scotland voting for him
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Old 14-10-2008, 23:55
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Top 5 would mean a record contract in a strong year as this,
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Old 14-10-2008, 23:58
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I disagree about Austin, I do think he's gonna have stronger (than first thought) competition from Eoghan but I think Simon wants Austin to be his main guy.
& for me personally I think Austin is very strong, he doesn't just 'sing' he has soul.

I do agree that Diana/Laura are hot faves, I don't even think Alex is as big a fave as peopl think, yes shes amazing, yes the judges praise her but theres just something missing & compared to the other girls in her category, shes same old same old really..not knocking that but its not like we haven't had millions of Whitney types on this show..we've NEVER had a Diana, a Laura OR an Austin.
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Old 14-10-2008, 23:58
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X-Factor is carefully constructed, and it didn't quite go to plan this week, with Danny Evans escaping the chop despite them wanting him in the bottom two with GirlBand. When Diana is in the middle four, she hasn't been pencilled in as the most desirable winner from the line-up. I hope that changes, and I think it may well do.


As for Austin, well, if Leon can win, then any half decent white male has a massive advantage over female singers and groups.
As for Austin/Leon, there are similarities ... i think they may have learnt their lesson on that one. Shayne had a lot more going for him commercially - they do not have a Shayne this year. You say about female solo artists but Idol's biggest winners have been Clarkson, Underwood and for XF Lewis. They still have big plans for Shayne, Leon is still hanging around - they seem to have found handling the males a bit tricky as the market is more crowded and the teens aren't buying into them as much nowdays. Ideally i'm sure they'd love a credible band but thats not gonna happen and the bands that are in the show are rubbish. JLS is their best chance and they look like a bunch of sixth formers pretending to be Boyz II Men.

I don't get how you say Diana is in the middle four - they don't read the results out in order so there's no indication - she could well have polled the most votes. I also don't know where you are getting they wanted Danny out, i would have said more Scott with Danny to follow in coming weeks. I guess it is just your assumption or opinions on this. It is carefully constructed but the rehearsals are watched carefully, the public feedback from the audition shows is monitored carefully ... they know exactly what is happening on the night and majority of the times you think they don't its because they are deliberately throwing out curveballs - they don't want the show to be as easily predictable as people have come to know the format. Anything can happen right now, if not Diana i can even see them having Ruth come through, but i'd say judging by how popular Diana has been and her Youtube views it is obvious there is mass support for her way above most of the others.
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Old 15-10-2008, 00:09
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LOL, she's only done 1 song and that was in a style that suited her.

She could be completely crap in the rest of the series as could any of them.

Lets wait and see how she copes with different genres.
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Old 15-10-2008, 00:17
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Diana was never pencilled in to win this year's X-Factor ...
Great script, very well written, but are we watching the same series?

Simon has eulogised over Diana since day 1. It's clear she's one of his big favourites from all his comments and the production of the shows leading upto Saturday. He hasn't had to rip up anything.

His ideal last three would be Diana, Laura and Alexandra.

Your middle four theory is conspiracy theory claptrap of the highest order.
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Old 15-10-2008, 01:03
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Problem is that the voters are tedious, and will inevitably vote with their oestrogen for austin and eggnog, the latter having the cutesy george sampson factor. Leona ONLY got 62% against ray quinn's 38%. Crazy.

Can't wait to buy Diana's album.
Well, gosh, there I thought the reason Leona and Ray both got votes was because people were allowed INDIVIDUAL OPINIONS My mistake.

The irony, though, of you imposing your opinion on others in a post where you bitch about Simon for doing the same.
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Old 30-10-2008, 19:36
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LOL, she's only done 1 song and that was in a style that suited her.

She could be completely crap in the rest of the series as could any of them.

Lets wait and see how she copes with different genres.
seem to be doing well now

eat ur words
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Old 30-10-2008, 19:42
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I think diana was a fave actually before the show. I sincerely doubt he wanted alexandra to win after having leona winning last year and having her on his books.

Laura and diana and austin were the producer faves i think.
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Old 30-10-2008, 19:45
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I think diana was a fave actually before the show. I sincerely doubt he wanted alexandra to win after having leona winning last year and having her on his books.

Laura and diana and austin were the producer faves i think.
Totally agree with you - I think if he is going for a female winner this year he will pick someone who is a completely different type than Leona.
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Old 30-10-2008, 20:02
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Totally agree with you - I think if he is going for a female winner this year he will pick someone who is a completely different type than Leona.
Except he doesn't get to pick.
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Old 30-10-2008, 20:33
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Sorry I don't agree OP.

Before the auditions were even aired Simon said he was looking for something different this year.
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Old 30-10-2008, 20:36
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Simon liked Diana from the beginning in the auditions he was saying how refreshing she is
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Old 30-10-2008, 21:41
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I won't be voting for Austin - he gives me the creeps AND I can't stand crybabies
oh grow up FFS.
I will be voting for Austin,hes a lovely guy and a fantastic singer.
youve got some neck coming on a Diana thread and turning into an excuse to attack Austin.
i wont be voting for Diana-i cant stand fake bores.:sleep:
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Old 30-10-2008, 21:49
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oh grow up FFS.
I will be voting for Austin,hes a lovely guy and a fantastic singer.
youve got some neck coming on a Diana thread and turning into an excuse to attack Austin.
i wont be voting for Diana-i cant stand fake bores.:sleep:
LMAO.
You just told he/she to grow up then you go and do the same? How do you know Austin is lovely? Cos his appearance on Boys Will Be Girls didn't reflect your statement.
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Old 30-10-2008, 21:59
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LMAO.
You just told he/she to grow up then you go and do the same? How do you know Austin is lovely? Cos his appearance on Boys Will Be Girls didn't reflect your statement.
Because he/she took it upon themselves to amid discussion of Diana have a cheap shot at Austin.
i see your a Bex fan.....ill leave it there.
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Old 30-10-2008, 22:12
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I think the script is going fine, if he didn't want her to be there she wouldn't be there simple as that.
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Old 30-10-2008, 22:36
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I think the script is going fine, if he didn't want her to be there she wouldn't be there simple as that.
Exactly. Diana isn't causing the script to be ripped up...she IS the script.
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Old 30-10-2008, 23:32
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Because he/she took it upon themselves to amid discussion of Diana have a cheap shot at Austin.
i see your a Bex fan.....ill leave it there.
hes actually a steph fan

if you read it properly it says Bex terminator.

and i agree, austin is a desperate crybaby.
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