T-Mobile G1: October 30th

The Magic Monkey · 16-10-2008, 08:29

LAUNCH Oct 30th: http://uk.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/...on-october-30/

I'll be in the queue at my local store on the 30th.

There's been so little talk of the G1, or Android, on here, makes me wonder if i'm the only one excited/bothered about it.

From the press release:

Quote:

The G1 is available for free on T-Mobile Combi and Flext price plans from £40 a month, including unlimited fast mobile internet browsing powered by T-Mobile’s award-winning network. Combi 35 offers 800 minutes and unlimited texts while Flext 40 gives up to 1,250 minutes or up to 2,500 texts or any mix of the two.

Ricardodaforce · 16-10-2008, 09:04

I think part of the problem is that the handset is just so damn ugly.

Lawe13 · 16-10-2008, 09:41

And the only reason its received any hype at all is because it runs the Android OS. Because other than that its a bog standard HTC smart phone.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricardodaforce

I think part of the problem is that the handset is just so damn ugly.

The Magic Monkey · 16-10-2008, 10:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricardodaforce

I think part of the problem is that the handset is just so damn ugly.

Yes, it's not the prettiest of things. But so what. I don't like the iPhone. And people want want to steal it.

Ricardodaforce · 16-10-2008, 10:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Magic Monkey

Yes, it's not the prettiest of things. But so what. I don't like the iPhone. And people want want to steal it.

The iPhone has a massive list of things that can only be described as woeful failings. And believe me, it would be so much better if my iPhone could do the things my Curve could do. BUT it IS a sexy looking bit of kit with an impressive UI.

The appeal of the iPhone certainly is not what it does, bit how it does what it does and the design.

Style of substance really does count for something nowadays.

The Magic Monkey · 16-10-2008, 12:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricardodaforce

Style of substance really does count for something nowadays.

Yes, ofcourse. But I think the G1 looks OK. It's no bigger than my current phone, and yes, I could wait for Nokia to bring out an Android device, but at some point you have to jump in.

If it's no good, it'll go back under the 14 day return period.

bascule62 · 16-10-2008, 13:00

I've been following the development of the "gphone" for a very long time and some of the speculation about it being "a smartphone for the masses" got me hoping.

Unfortunately, £40 a month is not a tariff for the masses.

Lawe13 · 16-10-2008, 14:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by bascule62

I've been following the development of the "gphone" for a very long time and some of the speculation about it being "a smartphone for the masses" got me hoping.

Unfortunately, £40 a month is not a tariff for the masses.

See I don't see why most people think they need a smart phone full stop. The majority don't, and only want it because it's top of the range, and can do many weird and wonderful things they will never actually use. These phones cost more to make, but people still expect them to be free on lower talkplans in the £20 a month range.

I guess if you really want this phone on a cheap plan, T-Mobile will let you have it but you will have to contribute toward the handset cost.

bascule62 · 16-10-2008, 15:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lawe13

See I don't see why most people think they need a smart phone full stop. The majority don't, and only want it because it's top of the range, and can do many weird and wonderful things they will never actually use. These phones cost more to make, but people still expect them to be free on lower talkplans in the £20 a month range.

I guess if you really want this phone on a cheap plan, T-Mobile will let you have it but you will have to contribute toward the handset cost.

I hope they will. I guess I don't "need" a smart phone any more than I "need" a mobile phone. I'm not a "power-user" but if I was able to access my gmail, google talk, MSN, maps, docs, internet (dictionaries, wikipedia, etc, etc), without finding a PC or a laptop then I would consider that extremely useful and I think many other people would too. I don't necessarily expect it to be free on cheaper tarrifs but my hopes were raised by all the speculation that this would be a more affordable smart phone. I've already read that gmail traffic won't be charged and I guess that as more Android phones arrive then this model will become cheaper. I'll just have to wait a bit longer. Thank goodness for Moore's Law!

skimminstones · 16-10-2008, 15:55

I didnt think it was ugly. Quite liked the look of it really. The problem i have over it is yes, i like the internet on it which i do use a lot. But is it actually any better as a device than my n95? Probably not really. Just a bigger screen.

The Magic Monkey · 16-10-2008, 17:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by bascule62

I hope they will. I guess I don't "need" a smart phone any more than I "need" a mobile phone. I'm not a "power-user" but if I was able to access my gmail, google talk, MSN, maps, docs, internet (dictionaries, wikipedia, etc, etc), without finding a PC or a laptop then I would consider that extremely useful and I think many other people would too. I don't necessarily expect it to be free on cheaper tarrifs but my hopes were raised by all the speculation that this would be a more affordable smart phone. I've already read that gmail traffic won't be charged and I guess that as more Android phones arrive then this model will become cheaper. I'll just have to wait a bit longer. Thank goodness for Moore's Law!

I absolutly class mysely as a power user, though i'm not a business user.

All the things you describe that would be useful (email etc) are exactly why I want a phone with Android.

Ricardodaforce · 16-10-2008, 17:56

Very comprehensive review here. It doesn't float my boat at all.

Lawe13 · 16-10-2008, 19:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricardodaforce

Very comprehensive review here. It doesn't float my boat at all.

Yeah it does come across quite lacklustre in all reviews so far. Some interesting applications being designed, and some scary such as LifeAware.

The Magic Monkey · 16-10-2008, 19:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lawe13

Yeah it does come across quite lacklustre in all reviews so far. Some interesting applications being designed, and some scary such as LifeAware.

The review has made me more positive about it. Android will evolve, and it'll just upgrade itself over the air.

The thing i'm worried about the most is that a much better phone running Android will come to market in Jan or Feb 09.

Lawe13 · 16-10-2008, 20:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Magic Monkey

The review has made me more positive about it. Android will evolve, and it'll just upgrade itself over the air.

The thing i'm worried about the most is that a much better phone running Android will come to market in Jan or Feb 09.

Bingo.

I very rarely speak to end consumers, but the other day I was speaking to a group of them and one of them asked "Where we getting the Google phone?". Once I'd corrected them, they didn't seem too bothered by the whole concept or as excited to know it was just an OS. And of course to answer the next question of whether other networks/phones will carry Android, I can only speculate "Most definitely".

MrKev · 16-10-2008, 20:13

Being an early adopter always has it's downsides. You just need to ask yourself if Android is worth it. Can you handle a very average handset for 18 months just to be one of the first with the new OS?

What for me makes it a no brainer is the fact that we all know that there will be other Android phones with far better spec arriving in the next 6 months. LG, Samsung and Motorola are all part of the OHA along with HTC. I'd wait for a better handset. Just imagine things like the HTC Touch HD with Android. You'll kick yourself when something similar comes out.

As a side note, I doubt we'll see any Nokia devices with Android in the near future - they aren't part of the alliance.

The Magic Monkey · 17-10-2008, 12:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrKev

Being an early adopter always has it's downsides. You just need to ask yourself if Android is worth it. Can you handle a very average handset for 18 months just to be one of the first with the new OS?

What for me makes it a no brainer is the fact that we all know that there will be other Android phones with far better spec arriving in the next 6 months. LG, Samsung and Motorola are all part of the OHA along with HTC. I'd wait for a better handset. Just imagine things like the HTC Touch HD with Android. You'll kick yourself when something similar comes out.

As a side note, I doubt we'll see any Nokia devices with Android in the near future - they aren't part of the alliance.

I think Android is worth it. Windows Mobile is no good, nor is Symbian. And don't get me started on the iPhone.

If the Nokia N96 ran Android and was a touchscreen, that'd be my perfect phone. However, jumping on now with the G1, and waiting it out for 18 months, the market for Android will have developed substantially enough for there to be plenty of good, mature phones out in April 2010 when an upgrade will be due.

kyussmondo · 17-10-2008, 20:48

I just can't find myself getting excited about the phone. For one the hardware is ugly and from the looks of it, the interface isn't that smooth. I almost gave up with the iPhone when 2.0 was so slow.

I know there is a reality distortion field around Apple, but there is also one around Google, maybe more so. Most of their services are still in beta, they seem to have no clear focus i.e. they do everything, a search engine, videos, space programs, browser, what next? A Google car paid for by advertising, collecting yet more information about you. I don't trust Google as a company. Also, what experience have they had of operating systems? Because it is Google people automatically assume they can compete with the likes of Windows and OS X. Not to mention that it can only be used with a Google ID. The phone doesn't have a standard headphone jack, no video recording built in, and the Google App Store is likely to be a free for all with a lot of crap. Expect to see a lot of crashed phones, or the carriers insisting on closing the store up like Apple as apps put strain on their networks. There was an outcry with iPhones recessed headphone jack, this HTC doesn't even have one! Also people moaned about lack of Exchange, which it has now. The HTC doesn't have it. Do you really expect a business user to use GMail. No large company would rely on webmail, just look what happened to Sarah Palin's Yahoo email account.

I wanted this phone to be great and create some good competition, but it disappointed. One phone that does look very promising is the Blackberry Storm. If this had come out earlier I would have definitely considered it over the iPhone. As for the HTC Android phone, that just seems like a geeks play toy.

The first iPhone was nearly faultless. It worked like it did in the adverts and was nothing short of amazing. HTC and Google need to do the same. The iPhone 3G was a bit of a disappointment, but that didn't matter, they got it right the first time and as a result got a big community of developers so the 3G could afford to slip up a bit. I think Google made a mistake choosing HTC to debut their OS.

Lawe13 · 17-10-2008, 21:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyussmondo

I just can't find myself getting excited about the phone. For one the hardware is ugly and from the looks of it, the interface isn't that smooth. I almost gave up with the iPhone when 2.0 was so slow.

I know there is a reality distortion field around Apple, but there is also one around Google, maybe more so. Most of their services are still in beta, they seem to have no clear focus i.e. they do everything, a search engine, videos, space programs, browser, what next? A Google car paid for by advertising, collecting yet more information about you. I don't trust Google as a company. Also, what experience have they had of operating systems? Because it is Google people automatically assume they can compete with the likes of Windows and OS X. Not to mention that it can only be used with a Google ID. The phone doesn't have a standard headphone jack, no video recording built in, and the Google App Store is likely to be a free for all with a lot of crap. Expect to see a lot of crashed phones, or the carriers insisting on closing the store up like Apple as apps put strain on their networks. There was an outcry with iPhones recessed headphone jack, this HTC doesn't even have one! Also people moaned about lack of Exchange, which it has now. The HTC doesn't have it. Do you really expect a business user to use GMail. No large company would rely on webmail, just look what happened to Sarah Palin's Yahoo email account.

I wanted this phone to be great and create some good competition, but it disappointed. One phone that does look very promising is the Blackberry Storm. If this had come out earlier I would have definitely considered it over the iPhone. As for the HTC Android phone, that just seems like a geeks play toy.

The first iPhone was nearly faultless. It worked like it did in the adverts and was nothing short of amazing. HTC and Google need to do the same. The iPhone 3G was a bit of a disappointment, but that didn't matter, they got it right the first time and as a result got a big community of developers so the 3G could afford to slip up a bit. I think Google made a mistake choosing HTC to debut their OS.

Brand is everything in this day and age. Google and Apple have brands so well marketed that they could release anything and there would be a furore surrounding it.

And Google didn't choose HTC to release their OS on. It's open source software, therefore HTC chose to use it - Google have no say over who can and cannot use it now it is open source.

MrKev · 17-10-2008, 21:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Magic Monkey

I think Android is worth it. Windows Mobile is no good, nor is Symbian. And don't get me started on the iPhone.

If the Nokia N96 ran Android and was a touchscreen, that'd be my perfect phone. However, jumping on now with the G1, and waiting it out for 18 months, the market for Android will have developed substantially enough for there to be plenty of good, mature phones out in April 2010 when an upgrade will be due.

I still think the sensible thing to do with Android is to wait for a few different handsets. Are you sure you can't sit on whatever phone you have now for another few months?

Mr Cable · 17-10-2008, 22:50

While I have no love for the G1, I am intrigued by Android. Very promising.

kyussmondo · 19-10-2008, 16:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lawe13

Brand is everything in this day and age. Google and Apple have brands so well marketed that they could release anything and there would be a furore surrounding it.

And Google didn't choose HTC to release their OS on. It's open source software, therefore HTC chose to use it - Google have no say over who can and cannot use it now it is open source.

I am sure Google would have had a say what device the Android platform launched on. It would be beneficial to them releasing it on a good device to encourage customers that they really want Android on their phones and hence manufacturers providing it on phones.

Google have already said they have a kill switch so they can kill specific apps if they are malicious. In my opinion this is a good thing. There needs to be some sort of vetting, eitherway it is not completely open source. Furthermore, how open is it really when you "have" to use a Google ID to have a functioning OS?

Magic Monkey...if you thing WinMo, Symbian and OS X all suck what is the chance that Android won't suck? I suppose because it is made by Google it will be totally awesome by default? [/sarcasm]

The Magic Monkey · 19-10-2008, 18:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyussmondo

Magic Monkey...if you thing WinMo, Symbian and OS X all suck what is the chance that Android won't suck? I suppose because it is made by Google it will be totally awesome by default?

It may well be no good. Who knows. But from what i've seen, it looks good. And it's neither of the OSs you listed, which is a good thing.

When I saw the news about the possibility of the HTC Touch HD being Androided up, I thought about not getting a G1, and waiting. However, at somepoint, you have to jump onboard, and I can't wait forever, as my current phone is close to death.

Anyway, according to the review on http://androidcommunity.com the G1 is actually pretty good.

The Magic Monkey · 29-10-2008, 14:57

From T Mobile, to those of us who registered on the website:

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The T-Mobile G1 with Google™ is coming

The wait is nearly over…

We know you’ve been waiting patiently to get your hands on the T-Mobile G1 and, as a thank you for signing up for G1 information, we have some great news especially for you.

We’re making the G1 available exclusively for you to order from T-Mobile.co.uk before anyone else. And we’ll email you on 29 October 2008 with simple instructions on how to place your G1 order.

* Choose between our 2 best value pay monthly plans
* Both offer a free G1, unlimited internet plus loads of minutes and texts
* Get more information on the available plans online

To avoid disappointment and make sure you don’t miss this chance to get your hands on the hotly-anticipated G1, put a reminder in your diary now for 9am on 30 October 2008.

Thanks
The T-Mobile.co.uk team
Are you in the London area on 30 October 2008?
If you fancy being one of the first to see the G1 in the flesh, T-Mobile is hosting an exclusive early opening of our store at 287 Oxford Street, London, W1C 2DP (nearest Tube Oxford Circus). You’ll need to be there for 7am to find out what we have planned for the T-Mobile G1 launch.

I'm just gonna go down to my local store and pick on up. I can't imagine there's going to me much of a rush, except at the Oxford Street branch.

The Magic Monkey · 29-10-2008, 18:19

More:

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The T-Mobile G1 Google™ is here

To order your T-Mobile G1 from the T-Mobile.co.uk shop, follow the exclusive link below after 9am on 30 October 2008. We have limited stock, so make sure you get in early to avoid disappointment. Once they’re all gone, the link will no longer work.

Place your T-mobile G1 order

We will aim to deliver your T-Mobile G1 within the next few days, however if demand is very high please allow up to seven days. We’ll let you know in advance when to expect delivery of your phone.

If you have not been successful in ordering your G1 today, don’t despair. We have
more stock coming soon, so keep an eye on the website.

Thanks
The T-Mobile.co.uk team

16-10-2008, 08:29	#1
The Magic Monkey Guest Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,929	T-Mobile G1: October 30th LAUNCH Oct 30th: http://uk.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/...on-october-30/ I'll be in the queue at my local store on the 30th. There's been so little talk of the G1, or Android, on here, makes me wonder if i'm the only one excited/bothered about it. From the press release: Quote: The G1 is available for free on T-Mobile Combi and Flext price plans from £40 a month, including unlimited fast mobile internet browsing powered by T-Mobile’s award-winning network. Combi 35 offers 800 minutes and unlimited texts while Flext 40 gives up to 1,250 minutes or up to 2,500 texts or any mix of the two.

16-10-2008, 09:04	#2
Ricardodaforce Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alacant Posts: 7,773	I think part of the problem is that the handset is just so damn ugly.

16-10-2008, 09:41	#3
Lawe13 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 869	And the only reason its received any hype at all is because it runs the Android OS. Because other than that its a bog standard HTC smart phone. Quote: Originally Posted by Ricardodaforce I think part of the problem is that the handset is just so damn ugly.

16-10-2008, 10:24	#4
The Magic Monkey Guest Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,929	Quote: Originally Posted by Ricardodaforce I think part of the problem is that the handset is just so damn ugly. Yes, it's not the prettiest of things. But so what. I don't like the iPhone. And people want want to steal it.

16-10-2008, 10:33	#5
Ricardodaforce Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alacant Posts: 7,773	Quote: Originally Posted by The Magic Monkey Yes, it's not the prettiest of things. But so what. I don't like the iPhone. And people want want to steal it. The iPhone has a massive list of things that can only be described as woeful failings. And believe me, it would be so much better if my iPhone could do the things my Curve could do. BUT it IS a sexy looking bit of kit with an impressive UI. The appeal of the iPhone certainly is not what it does, bit how it does what it does and the design. Style of substance really does count for something nowadays.

16-10-2008, 12:28	#6
The Magic Monkey Guest Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,929	Quote: Originally Posted by Ricardodaforce Style of substance really does count for something nowadays. Yes, ofcourse. But I think the G1 looks OK. It's no bigger than my current phone, and yes, I could wait for Nokia to bring out an Android device, but at some point you have to jump in. If it's no good, it'll go back under the 14 day return period.

16-10-2008, 13:00	#7
bascule62 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 27	I've been following the development of the "gphone" for a very long time and some of the speculation about it being "a smartphone for the masses" got me hoping. Unfortunately, £40 a month is not a tariff for the masses.

16-10-2008, 14:29	#8
Lawe13 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 869	Quote: Originally Posted by bascule62 I've been following the development of the "gphone" for a very long time and some of the speculation about it being "a smartphone for the masses" got me hoping. Unfortunately, £40 a month is not a tariff for the masses. See I don't see why most people think they need a smart phone full stop. The majority don't, and only want it because it's top of the range, and can do many weird and wonderful things they will never actually use. These phones cost more to make, but people still expect them to be free on lower talkplans in the £20 a month range. I guess if you really want this phone on a cheap plan, T-Mobile will let you have it but you will have to contribute toward the handset cost.

16-10-2008, 15:04	#9
bascule62 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 27	Quote: Originally Posted by Lawe13 See I don't see why most people think they need a smart phone full stop. The majority don't, and only want it because it's top of the range, and can do many weird and wonderful things they will never actually use. These phones cost more to make, but people still expect them to be free on lower talkplans in the £20 a month range. I guess if you really want this phone on a cheap plan, T-Mobile will let you have it but you will have to contribute toward the handset cost. I hope they will. I guess I don't "need" a smart phone any more than I "need" a mobile phone. I'm not a "power-user" but if I was able to access my gmail, google talk, MSN, maps, docs, internet (dictionaries, wikipedia, etc, etc), without finding a PC or a laptop then I would consider that extremely useful and I think many other people would too. I don't necessarily expect it to be free on cheaper tarrifs but my hopes were raised by all the speculation that this would be a more affordable smart phone. I've already read that gmail traffic won't be charged and I guess that as more Android phones arrive then this model will become cheaper. I'll just have to wait a bit longer. Thank goodness for Moore's Law!

16-10-2008, 15:55	#10
skimminstones Inactive Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 8,186	I didnt think it was ugly. Quite liked the look of it really. The problem i have over it is yes, i like the internet on it which i do use a lot. But is it actually any better as a device than my n95? Probably not really. Just a bigger screen.

16-10-2008, 17:25	#11
The Magic Monkey Guest Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,929	Quote: Originally Posted by bascule62 I hope they will. I guess I don't "need" a smart phone any more than I "need" a mobile phone. I'm not a "power-user" but if I was able to access my gmail, google talk, MSN, maps, docs, internet (dictionaries, wikipedia, etc, etc), without finding a PC or a laptop then I would consider that extremely useful and I think many other people would too. I don't necessarily expect it to be free on cheaper tarrifs but my hopes were raised by all the speculation that this would be a more affordable smart phone. I've already read that gmail traffic won't be charged and I guess that as more Android phones arrive then this model will become cheaper. I'll just have to wait a bit longer. Thank goodness for Moore's Law! I absolutly class mysely as a power user, though i'm not a business user. All the things you describe that would be useful (email etc) are exactly why I want a phone with Android.

16-10-2008, 17:56	#12
Ricardodaforce Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alacant Posts: 7,773	Very comprehensive review here. It doesn't float my boat at all.

16-10-2008, 19:20	#13
Lawe13 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 869	Quote: Originally Posted by Ricardodaforce Very comprehensive review here. It doesn't float my boat at all. Yeah it does come across quite lacklustre in all reviews so far. Some interesting applications being designed, and some scary such as LifeAware.

16-10-2008, 19:31	#14
The Magic Monkey Guest Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,929	Quote: Originally Posted by Lawe13 Yeah it does come across quite lacklustre in all reviews so far. Some interesting applications being designed, and some scary such as LifeAware. The review has made me more positive about it. Android will evolve, and it'll just upgrade itself over the air. The thing i'm worried about the most is that a much better phone running Android will come to market in Jan or Feb 09.

16-10-2008, 20:06	#15
Lawe13 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 869	Quote: Originally Posted by The Magic Monkey The review has made me more positive about it. Android will evolve, and it'll just upgrade itself over the air. The thing i'm worried about the most is that a much better phone running Android will come to market in Jan or Feb 09. Bingo. I very rarely speak to end consumers, but the other day I was speaking to a group of them and one of them asked "Where we getting the Google phone?". Once I'd corrected them, they didn't seem too bothered by the whole concept or as excited to know it was just an OS. And of course to answer the next question of whether other networks/phones will carry Android, I can only speculate "Most definitely".

16-10-2008, 20:13	#16
MrKev Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Durham Posts: 1,636	Being an early adopter always has it's downsides. You just need to ask yourself if Android is worth it. Can you handle a very average handset for 18 months just to be one of the first with the new OS? What for me makes it a no brainer is the fact that we all know that there will be other Android phones with far better spec arriving in the next 6 months. LG, Samsung and Motorola are all part of the OHA along with HTC. I'd wait for a better handset. Just imagine things like the HTC Touch HD with Android. You'll kick yourself when something similar comes out. As a side note, I doubt we'll see any Nokia devices with Android in the near future - they aren't part of the alliance.

17-10-2008, 12:15	#17
The Magic Monkey Guest Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,929	Quote: Originally Posted by MrKev Being an early adopter always has it's downsides. You just need to ask yourself if Android is worth it. Can you handle a very average handset for 18 months just to be one of the first with the new OS? What for me makes it a no brainer is the fact that we all know that there will be other Android phones with far better spec arriving in the next 6 months. LG, Samsung and Motorola are all part of the OHA along with HTC. I'd wait for a better handset. Just imagine things like the HTC Touch HD with Android. You'll kick yourself when something similar comes out. As a side note, I doubt we'll see any Nokia devices with Android in the near future - they aren't part of the alliance. I think Android is worth it. Windows Mobile is no good, nor is Symbian. And don't get me started on the iPhone. If the Nokia N96 ran Android and was a touchscreen, that'd be my perfect phone. However, jumping on now with the G1, and waiting it out for 18 months, the market for Android will have developed substantially enough for there to be plenty of good, mature phones out in April 2010 when an upgrade will be due.

17-10-2008, 20:48	#18
kyussmondo Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ipswich, Suffolk Posts: 1,731	I just can't find myself getting excited about the phone. For one the hardware is ugly and from the looks of it, the interface isn't that smooth. I almost gave up with the iPhone when 2.0 was so slow. I know there is a reality distortion field around Apple, but there is also one around Google, maybe more so. Most of their services are still in beta, they seem to have no clear focus i.e. they do everything, a search engine, videos, space programs, browser, what next? A Google car paid for by advertising, collecting yet more information about you. I don't trust Google as a company. Also, what experience have they had of operating systems? Because it is Google people automatically assume they can compete with the likes of Windows and OS X. Not to mention that it can only be used with a Google ID. The phone doesn't have a standard headphone jack, no video recording built in, and the Google App Store is likely to be a free for all with a lot of crap. Expect to see a lot of crashed phones, or the carriers insisting on closing the store up like Apple as apps put strain on their networks. There was an outcry with iPhones recessed headphone jack, this HTC doesn't even have one! Also people moaned about lack of Exchange, which it has now. The HTC doesn't have it. Do you really expect a business user to use GMail. No large company would rely on webmail, just look what happened to Sarah Palin's Yahoo email account. I wanted this phone to be great and create some good competition, but it disappointed. One phone that does look very promising is the Blackberry Storm. If this had come out earlier I would have definitely considered it over the iPhone. As for the HTC Android phone, that just seems like a geeks play toy. The first iPhone was nearly faultless. It worked like it did in the adverts and was nothing short of amazing. HTC and Google need to do the same. The iPhone 3G was a bit of a disappointment, but that didn't matter, they got it right the first time and as a result got a big community of developers so the 3G could afford to slip up a bit. I think Google made a mistake choosing HTC to debut their OS.

17-10-2008, 21:07	#19
Lawe13 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 869	Quote: Originally Posted by kyussmondo I just can't find myself getting excited about the phone. For one the hardware is ugly and from the looks of it, the interface isn't that smooth. I almost gave up with the iPhone when 2.0 was so slow. I know there is a reality distortion field around Apple, but there is also one around Google, maybe more so. Most of their services are still in beta, they seem to have no clear focus i.e. they do everything, a search engine, videos, space programs, browser, what next? A Google car paid for by advertising, collecting yet more information about you. I don't trust Google as a company. Also, what experience have they had of operating systems? Because it is Google people automatically assume they can compete with the likes of Windows and OS X. Not to mention that it can only be used with a Google ID. The phone doesn't have a standard headphone jack, no video recording built in, and the Google App Store is likely to be a free for all with a lot of crap. Expect to see a lot of crashed phones, or the carriers insisting on closing the store up like Apple as apps put strain on their networks. There was an outcry with iPhones recessed headphone jack, this HTC doesn't even have one! Also people moaned about lack of Exchange, which it has now. The HTC doesn't have it. Do you really expect a business user to use GMail. No large company would rely on webmail, just look what happened to Sarah Palin's Yahoo email account. I wanted this phone to be great and create some good competition, but it disappointed. One phone that does look very promising is the Blackberry Storm. If this had come out earlier I would have definitely considered it over the iPhone. As for the HTC Android phone, that just seems like a geeks play toy. The first iPhone was nearly faultless. It worked like it did in the adverts and was nothing short of amazing. HTC and Google need to do the same. The iPhone 3G was a bit of a disappointment, but that didn't matter, they got it right the first time and as a result got a big community of developers so the 3G could afford to slip up a bit. I think Google made a mistake choosing HTC to debut their OS. Brand is everything in this day and age. Google and Apple have brands so well marketed that they could release anything and there would be a furore surrounding it. And Google didn't choose HTC to release their OS on. It's open source software, therefore HTC chose to use it - Google have no say over who can and cannot use it now it is open source.

17-10-2008, 21:11	#20
MrKev Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Durham Posts: 1,636	Quote: Originally Posted by The Magic Monkey I think Android is worth it. Windows Mobile is no good, nor is Symbian. And don't get me started on the iPhone. If the Nokia N96 ran Android and was a touchscreen, that'd be my perfect phone. However, jumping on now with the G1, and waiting it out for 18 months, the market for Android will have developed substantially enough for there to be plenty of good, mature phones out in April 2010 when an upgrade will be due. I still think the sensible thing to do with Android is to wait for a few different handsets. Are you sure you can't sit on whatever phone you have now for another few months?

17-10-2008, 22:50	#21
Mr Cable Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 2,868	While I have no love for the G1, I am intrigued by Android. Very promising.

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19-10-2008, 16:51	#22
kyussmondo Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ipswich, Suffolk Posts: 1,731	Quote: Originally Posted by Lawe13 Brand is everything in this day and age. Google and Apple have brands so well marketed that they could release anything and there would be a furore surrounding it. And Google didn't choose HTC to release their OS on. It's open source software, therefore HTC chose to use it - Google have no say over who can and cannot use it now it is open source. I am sure Google would have had a say what device the Android platform launched on. It would be beneficial to them releasing it on a good device to encourage customers that they really want Android on their phones and hence manufacturers providing it on phones. Google have already said they have a kill switch so they can kill specific apps if they are malicious. In my opinion this is a good thing. There needs to be some sort of vetting, eitherway it is not completely open source. Furthermore, how open is it really when you "have" to use a Google ID to have a functioning OS? Magic Monkey...if you thing WinMo, Symbian and OS X all suck what is the chance that Android won't suck? I suppose because it is made by Google it will be totally awesome by default? [/sarcasm]

19-10-2008, 18:57	#23
The Magic Monkey Guest Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,929	Quote: Originally Posted by kyussmondo Magic Monkey...if you thing WinMo, Symbian and OS X all suck what is the chance that Android won't suck? I suppose because it is made by Google it will be totally awesome by default? It may well be no good. Who knows. But from what i've seen, it looks good. And it's neither of the OSs you listed, which is a good thing. When I saw the news about the possibility of the HTC Touch HD being Androided up, I thought about not getting a G1, and waiting. However, at somepoint, you have to jump onboard, and I can't wait forever, as my current phone is close to death. Anyway, according to the review on http://androidcommunity.com the G1 is actually pretty good.

29-10-2008, 14:57	#24
The Magic Monkey Guest Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,929	From T Mobile, to those of us who registered on the website: Quote: The T-Mobile G1 with Google™ is coming The wait is nearly over… We know you’ve been waiting patiently to get your hands on the T-Mobile G1 and, as a thank you for signing up for G1 information, we have some great news especially for you. We’re making the G1 available exclusively for you to order from T-Mobile.co.uk before anyone else. And we’ll email you on 29 October 2008 with simple instructions on how to place your G1 order. * Choose between our 2 best value pay monthly plans * Both offer a free G1, unlimited internet plus loads of minutes and texts * Get more information on the available plans online To avoid disappointment and make sure you don’t miss this chance to get your hands on the hotly-anticipated G1, put a reminder in your diary now for 9am on 30 October 2008. Thanks The T-Mobile.co.uk team Are you in the London area on 30 October 2008? If you fancy being one of the first to see the G1 in the flesh, T-Mobile is hosting an exclusive early opening of our store at 287 Oxford Street, London, W1C 2DP (nearest Tube Oxford Circus). You’ll need to be there for 7am to find out what we have planned for the T-Mobile G1 launch. I'm just gonna go down to my local store and pick on up. I can't imagine there's going to me much of a rush, except at the Oxford Street branch.

29-10-2008, 18:19	#25
The Magic Monkey Guest Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,929	More: Quote: The T-Mobile G1 Google™ is here To order your T-Mobile G1 from the T-Mobile.co.uk shop, follow the exclusive link below after 9am on 30 October 2008. We have limited stock, so make sure you get in early to avoid disappointment. Once they’re all gone, the link will no longer work. Place your T-mobile G1 order We will aim to deliver your T-Mobile G1 within the next few days, however if demand is very high please allow up to seven days. We’ll let you know in advance when to expect delivery of your phone. If you have not been successful in ordering your G1 today, don’t despair. We have more stock coming soon, so keep an eye on the website. Thanks The T-Mobile.co.uk team