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Old 19-10-2008, 00:07
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Last year Niki started off brilliantly and if she carried on could have won. Then she lost the plot a bit in the middle whilst trying to experiment and it cost her a lot of fans, and eventually her place in the show. It seemed as though they expected her fans just to stick.

Rachel had a really good start in the auditions, she had quite a few fans before the live shows and her odds were quite healthy too. But she seems to be on self destruct mode and if she doesn't do well on Saturday she is going to spectacularly crash out of the competition. They seem to be also expecting her fans to stick.

I'm not comparing the two styles, I just think there are similarities in their situations.
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Old 19-10-2008, 00:10
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Niki's first couple of performances in the live shows were far superior to Rachel's though. I think her 'All That Jazz' performance marked the start of her decline.

In contrast, it feels like Rachel hasn't really shown up yet.
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Old 19-10-2008, 00:13
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Niki's first couple of performances in the live shows were far superior to Rachel's though. I think her 'All That Jazz' performance marked the start of her decline.

In contrast, it feels like Rachel hasn't really shown up yet.
Thats sort of where I see the similarity. We seen quite a lot of a very good Rachel prior to the live shows. We didn't really see much of Niki last year. The first few we did see of Niki's we did were very good- just as Rachel's were. Then there were a few dodgy ones before she managed to save herself, by which point it was too late. I do agree about All That Jazz though.
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Old 19-10-2008, 00:13
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most people started to dislike Niki for her attitude rather than her performances, she had a right 'know it all' attitude to the judges comments, she'd stand there like she was Mariah Carey and she didnt need to be told she was good...and then they kept repeating her sob story as well (not entirely her fault i admit) which again didnt look good for the audience.
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Old 19-10-2008, 00:14
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rachel has a better voice than niki and rachel has way too much more to give, the word potential comes to my mind.
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Old 19-10-2008, 00:16
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most people started to dislike Niki for her attitude rather than her performances, she had a right 'know it all' attitude to the judges comments, she'd stand there like she was Mariah Carey and she didnt need to be told she was good...and then they kept repeating her sob story as well (not entirely her fault i admit) which again didnt look good for the audience.
Yup.
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Old 19-10-2008, 00:17
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No no..Niki was always terrible and bland and..oh god. I hated that woman. And her stupid sob story and power ballads. Eurgh.
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Old 19-10-2008, 00:18
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Actually, I think the main thing that did Niki in was her tuning.
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Old 19-10-2008, 00:19
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Her problem is that she sounds good when singing on her own, but with music and a setup she just doesn't fit.
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Old 19-10-2008, 00:20
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rachel has a better voice than niki and rachel has way too much more to give, the word potential comes to my mind.
Rachel and niki dont have the same kind of voice.
They both have a unique style to there voice.

But imo Niki had potential, maybe even doing a brenda.

IMO, Rachel has had two poor performences since being on the live shows.She needs to come out next week with a song in her comfort zone.As i think it might be the only chance of her progressing further
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Old 19-10-2008, 00:22
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Rachel and niki dont have the same kind of voice.
They both have a unique style to there voice.

But imo Niki had potential, maybe even doing a brenda.

IMO, Rachel has had two poor performences since being on the live shows.She needs to come out next week with a song in her comfort zone.As i think it might be the only chance of her progressing further
Rachel is clearly in her comfort zone doing things like Amy Winehouse. Alisha managed to be saved last year by doing Valerie (OK partly down to the 'everyone hates me' sob story as well) but looking back that was one pretty good performance (HERE). Unless its already reserved for Laura, I think that song has to be for Rachel.
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Old 19-10-2008, 00:23
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if you call rachels performances poor than you must be watchin a different show. im not being funny right but her vocals are beyond good. they might not have been the best song choices but she has got star written all over her. she has a stage prescene and her talent is raw.
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Old 19-10-2008, 00:24
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Her problem is that she sounds good when singing on her own, but with music and a setup she just doesn't fit.
I agree. It's just not working at all.

I don't think we've seen a truly great performance from her since the first audition.
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Old 19-10-2008, 00:25
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if you call rachels performances poor than you must be watchin a different show.
Or maybe people are expressing their personal opinions...
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Old 19-10-2008, 00:27
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I agree. It's just not working at all.

I don't think we've seen a truly great performance from her since the first audition.
I agree. Her first audition was brillent
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Old 19-10-2008, 00:27
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if you call rachels performances poor than you must be watchin a different show. im not being funny right but her vocals are beyond good. they might not have been the best song choices but she has got star written all over her. she has a stage prescene and her talent is raw.
I'm not calling her performances poor, she can perform. I'm saying her vocals/song choices aren't what they could be at all.

I think she can still go far and possibly be in the final but she has to up her game considerably.
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Old 19-10-2008, 00:28
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if you call rachels performances poor than you must be watchin a different show. im not being funny right but her vocals are beyond good. they might not have been the best song choices but she has got star written all over her. she has a stage prescene and her talent is raw.
She sounds a bit of key last week with "every heartbeat" and tonight she didn't sound in tune.
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Old 19-10-2008, 00:30
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Rachel is clearly in her comfort zone doing things like Amy Winehouse. Alisha managed to be saved last year by doing Valerie (OK partly down to the 'everyone hates me' sob story as well) but looking back that was one pretty good performance (HERE). Unless its already reserved for Laura, I think that song has to be for Rachel.
I thought Alisha had potential and was disappointed she went so soon
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Old 19-10-2008, 00:34
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most people started to dislike Niki for her attitude rather than her performances, she had a right 'know it all' attitude to the judges comments, she'd stand there like she was Mariah Carey and she didnt need to be told she was good...and then they kept repeating her sob story as well (not entirely her fault i admit) which again didnt look good for the audience.

Thats right. I really hated her personality. Her voice also got kind of weak near the end of the competition, couldn't really hit half of the high notes.
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Old 19-10-2008, 01:26
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Last year Niki started off brilliantly and if she carried on could have won.
I dont think Niki could ever have won. Not at all, she didnt have the support or versatility imo
No no..Niki was always terrible and bland and..oh god. I hated that woman. And her stupid sob story and power ballads. Eurgh.
Hate is a strong word, but she was not a nice person. Her attitude was horrible. She really did think she was the greatest and didnt quite know when to keep her mouth closed.
She does remind me of Rachel in many ways. Both have good voices, but their attitudes are what making people dislike them. Similarly, Rachel wont win in the same way Niki wasnt ever going to win because of that.
XF is as much a personality programme as it is singing - you have to draw the viewers to you and Rachel and Niki dont/didnt.
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Old 19-10-2008, 01:29
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Rachel needs to do a decent performance before she can do a Niki.
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Old 19-10-2008, 02:02
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Niki was outstanding! She was better then Leon and Same difference!!!
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Old 19-10-2008, 02:04
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Niki was outstanding! She was better then Leon and Same difference!!!
But, as I mentioned in my previous post, she didnt have the likeability due to her attitude. Whereas, Leon and SD were friendly people. You could be the best singer on xf, but if it appears that you have/or you do have an attitude or are not a very warm person, then you wont win. Its as much a popularity, personality contest as it is singing
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Old 19-10-2008, 02:04
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Rachel has been awful!

Niki was ok during the auditions but nailed the first live show performance, rapidly installing her as favourite.

There's no way Rachel will make the final 4 like Niki did. No chance.
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Old 19-10-2008, 02:04
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Niki was outstanding! She was better then Leon and Same difference!!!
What? Better than Same Difference? Never! That's not saying much now is it!?
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