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All-time most criminally overmarked and undermarked Strictly performance award
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The Swampster
23-10-2008
Which dance was most unappreciated by the judges - and which was most over-rated?

My votes go to Louisa and Vincent's fab paso doble, which scored a measly 34 - I can't believe my all-time favourite got no tens!

Most over-marked IMO was John Barnes' and Nicole Cutler's salsa - John was very stooped throughout but Len still gave it 10!
kittles
23-10-2008
oooh great idea for a thread

overmarked has to be Emma and Darren's feral kitten paso doble - complete with tittarubba

undermarked I'll need to think about some more...
yohinnchild
23-10-2008
Len said on ITT last year that he gave John and Nicole's Salsa a 10 because he thought it was better than something that he gave a 9 and wanted to show that... therefore he said that it wasn't perfect just better than something that he rated as 9.

Lastweeks leaderboard is a candidate for the criminally overmarked and undermarked...

Rachel, Austin and Lisa were all overmarked IMO

Jodie and Christine were undermarked
chh33
23-10-2008
Overmarked: Bruno's perfect 10 for Kelly and Brendan's American Smooth! Bruno's is a joker here!!!
arddunol
23-10-2008
Ooh liking this .
Two of the most seriously undermarked were Aled's Tango and Paso both in the semifinal of series 2, deliberately undermarked .

Overmarked , Emma's pasodoble for starters ; many of last year's dances were overmarked .
Dollystanford
23-10-2008
Overmarked:

Matt and Flavia's Waltz - wasn't even the best waltz of the series, let alone ever

Undermarked

Alesha and Matt's AS (they were overmarked on the cha cha though)
allisonbm2
23-10-2008
Overmarked:

1.Matt & Flavia's waltz(Still annoys me)
2.John Barnes salsa (10 my backside!)
3.Emma Paso
4. Emma Waltz


Undermarked:
1.Matt & Lilia's quickstep
2.Aled Jones Tango
3.Aled Jones Paso
4.Louisa's paso
5.James Martin's tango
6.Emma Tango
katie_p
23-10-2008
Undermarked- I agree on Aled's Tango- 27?! It would easily get in the high thirties now.

Overmarked- ... where to start?! My vote to Gethin's Jive or Matt DA's Waltz I think.
BuddyBontheNet
23-10-2008
Great thread idea - will have to give my answer some serious thought!
tutti_frutti_79
23-10-2008
Originally Posted by chh33:
“Overmarked: Bruno's perfect 10 for Kelly and Brendan's American Smooth! Bruno's is a joker here!!!”

I agree completely with this and my most under marked ummmmmm, lrt me think....
Gill P
23-10-2008
Overmarked Matt DA's waltz - I agree with all of you who say that. No way was it good enough for four tens.

No sure about Undermarked yet.
katie_p
23-10-2008
Ooh- another thought for most overmarked- Fiona's Rumba: 6/10 from Len! Given that he freely goes down to 5/10, and has marked as low as 3/10 for a really appalling dance, what was he thinking?

Edit: And that leads me to Matt and Flavia's Foxtrot actually! 8/10?
EmilyIRE
23-10-2008
Most overmarked: There's a lot of candidates but the top ones for me are Matt and Flavia's waltz, John's 10 for salsa, Lisa and Brendan's AS, Kelly and Brendan's AS and not forgetting the Bunton's paso *shudder* Oh and Matt and Flavia getting 8s from Bruno and Len for the hideous foxtrot. Gethin and Camilla's jive.

Most undermarked: Louisa's paso is the only one I can think of off the top of my head.
SCD-Observer
23-10-2008
Len and Bruno are the criminals in this overmarking business!

Case in Point:

Len's 8/10 for Matt DA's disaster of a Foxtrot AND
(if I recall properly) his 8/10 for Matt DA's disaster of the Samba!

Also, his ridiculous perfect score of Gethin's Jive (Austin and Tom this year would have EASILY danced a better and more technically correct routine than him) and Paso!!!

Bruno's 10 for Kelly and Brendan's AS

AND! Emma's tittarubba in a Paso!!! *shudders*

Undermarked (not sure about criminally undermarked, however):

Alesha's AS last year.
And arguably, Tom's AS (!) this year. I think it should be 4 nines instead.
Of course, to add Louisa's Paso too!
kittles
23-10-2008
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“Len and Bruno are the criminals in this overmarking business!

Case in Point:

Len's 8/10 for Matt DA's disaster of a Foxtrot AND
(if I recall properly) his 8/10 for Matt DA's disaster of the Samba!

Also, his ridiculous perfect score of Gethin's Jive (Austin and Tom this year would have EASILY danced a better and more technically correct routine than him) and Paso!!!

Bruno's 10 for Kelly and Brendan's AS

AND! Emma's tittarubba in a Paso!!! *shudders*

Undermarked (not sure about criminally undermarked, however):

Alesha's AS last year.
And arguably, Tom's AS (!) this year. I think it should be 4 nines instead.
Of course, to add Louisa's Paso too!”

ah well going by that, then the Ramps AT - how Craig did you not give that a 10 but you gave 10 to Matt D for his waltz. Explain to me how that works!
katie_p
23-10-2008
I'm not sure about criminally undermarked since it was only one point, but I think every one of the dances that scored 39/40 could reasonably have had 40/40... Craig (and Len, for Alesha's Waltz) is so tight sometimes!

From Wikipedia:
* 39/40: Colin Jackson and Erin Boag; Quickstep; 17/12/2005 (Series 3 Final)
* 39/40: Mark Ramprakash and Karen Hardy; Argentine Tango; 16/12/2006 (Series 4 Semi-Final)
* 39/40: Alesha Dixon and Matthew Cutler; Cha Cha Cha; 24/11/2007 (Series 5 Week 8)
* 39/40: Gethin Jones and Camilla Dallerup; Waltz; 1/12/2007 (Series 5 Week 9)
* 39/40: Alesha Dixon and Matthew Cutler; Waltz; 22/12/2007 (Series 5 Final)
* 39/40: Matt Di Angelo and Flavia Cacace; Salsa; 22/12/07 (Series 5 Final)
katie_p
23-10-2008
Originally Posted by kittles:
“ah well going by that, then the Ramps AT - how Craig did you not give that a 10 but you gave 10 to Matt D for his waltz. Explain to me how that works!”

I think that may have been a case of vainly hoping to put Emma at the top of the leaderboard, as that was the only way she had a shot of being in the final!
Loueez
23-10-2008
Originally Posted by kittles:
“ah well going by that, then the Ramps AT - how Craig did you not give that a 10 but you gave 10 to Matt D for his waltz. Explain to me how that works!”

Interesting point, has Craig ever explained why he didn't give it a ten???
SCD-Observer
23-10-2008
Originally Posted by kittles:
“ah well going by that, then the Ramps AT - how Craig did you not give that a 10 but you gave 10 to Matt D for his waltz. Explain to me how that works!”

That's a good point. I still don't understand why Craig did not give Mark's AT a ten. Which actually helps in my arguement about Tom's slightly undermarked AS this year.
westlifefan123
23-10-2008
Overmarked:
Matt and Flavia's Waltz (Gethin's was SOOOO much better!!!!)
Kelly and Brendan's American Smooth (10 from Bruno was just wrong!!)
Tom and Camilla's American Smooth (marks were too high)

Undermarked:
Aled and Lilia's Tango and Paso Doble
Gethin and Camilla's Argentine Tango

From Hayley
CaroUK
23-10-2008
Over marked
Almost every dance Emma Bunton did in the whole series.
Matt & Flavia's waltz
Gethin & Camilla's Jive
Chris Parkers Paso (Craig gave him a 3 for it!!)

Under marked
Louisa's Paso
Louisa's Rumba (when compared to La Bunton's on the same night - Louisa's was better and scored less)!
Carol Smillie's Samba (when compared to La Bunton's on the same night - Carol's was better and scored less)!
Aleds Tango
James & Camilla's Tango
spider9
23-10-2008
Overmarked - got to go with Matt and Flavia's waltz.

Undermarked - Colin and Erin's AS should have been a 40. I still marvel at it now.
anna123
23-10-2008
Overmarked without a doubt Matt and Flavias waltz. How on earth did that deserve a 40 It wasnt even the best dance of SCD last year nevemind the best waltz ever.

undermarked - Gethins VW.
louise81
23-10-2008
Originally Posted by CaroUK:
“Over marked
Almost every dance Emma Bunton did in the whole series.
Matt & Flavia's waltz
Gethin & Camilla's Jive”

Agree with all of these.
I'd add Lisa and Brendan's Rumba and AS to that list, however.

Under marked - Alesha and Matthew AS
Jill and Darren Paso - it was fantastic
Katy_Mac
23-10-2008
Overmarked
Definately Matt & Flavia's Waltz an unbelievable mark based on the difference from the previous week rather than the standard of the dance


Undermarked
Louisa and Vincent’s Paso – do you remember the section on It Take’s Two where all the professionals praised it?
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