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Cookery is no more or less than "an opinion"
I used to think cookery was a skill, where like all skills, people with an extrordinary talent could surpass. That was until the last couple of years where celerity chefs have thrust themselves into the limelight and exposed their incompetance
1/ Rick Stein who cannot tell the difference between cheap supermarket Xmas pud and a decent one Neither can he tell the difference between a supermarket turkey and a free range turkey (costing 8 times as much), and openly admitted he was spying in the kitchen hoping to find clues other than the taste He quite clearly considered this a 'bit of fun' and does not understand how this basically makes him totally incompetant as a cook 2 / Gary Rhodes who considers himself 'a perfectionist' and tried to translate his 'talent' onto the dance floor where he likewise considered himself nothing less than perfection when in fact he was totally crap. And from this we can deduce (his own opinion aside) his cooking is no better than his dancing Now i know cookery is no more or less than "an opinion" which makes you or I equally competant and celebrity chefs no more or less than talentless people with over-inflated egos immersed in their own self-importance . |
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I used to think cookery was a skill, where like all skills, people with an extrordinary talent could surpass. That was until the last couple of years where celerity chefs have thrust themselves into the limelight and exposed their incompetance
1/ Rick Stein who cannot tell the difference between cheap supermarket Xmas pud and a decent one Neither can he tell the difference between a supermarket turkey and a free range turkey (costing 8 times as much), and openly admitted he was spying in the kitchen hoping to find clues other than the taste He quite clearly considered this a 'bit of fun' and does not understand how this basically makes him totally incompetant as a cook 2 / Gary Rhodes who considers himself 'a perfectionist' and tried to translate his 'talent' onto the dance floor where he likewise considered himself nothing less than perfection when in fact he was totally crap. And from this we can deduce (his own opinion aside) his cooking is no better than his dancing Now i know cookery is no more or less than "an opinion" which makes you or I equally competant and celebrity chefs no more or less than talentless people with over-inflated egos immersed in their own self-importance . |
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I was quite interested in your post up to the point where you decided, because Gary Rhodes is a crap dancer, it follows that he's a crap cook. I'd polish up your "deductive" skills.
And what constitutes a "decent one"? Where is it set in stone that the more expensive the better it is? |
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I was quite interested in your post up to the point where you decided, because Gary Rhodes is a crap dancer, it follows that he's a crap cook. I'd polish up your "deductive" skills.
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I used to think cookery was a skill, where like all skills, people with an extrordinary talent could surpass. That was until the last couple of years where celerity chefs have thrust themselves into the limelight and exposed their incompetance
1/ Rick Stein who cannot tell the difference between cheap supermarket Xmas pud and a decent one Neither can he tell the difference between a supermarket turkey and a free range turkey (costing 8 times as much), and openly admitted he was spying in the kitchen hoping to find clues other than the taste He quite clearly considered this a 'bit of fun' and does not understand how this basically makes him totally incompetant as a cook 2 / Gary Rhodes who considers himself 'a perfectionist' and tried to translate his 'talent' onto the dance floor where he likewise considered himself nothing less than perfection when in fact he was totally crap. And from this we can deduce (his own opinion aside) his cooking is no better than his dancing Now i know cookery is no more or less than "an opinion" which makes you or I equally competant and celebrity chefs no more or less than talentless people with over-inflated egos immersed in their own self-importance . |
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I was quite interested in your post up to the point where you decided, because Gary Rhodes is a crap dancer, it follows that he's a crap cook. I'd polish up your "deductive" skills.
he's actually crap dancer = he's prolly a crap cook it was clear to see the only thing stopping him thinking he was the best dancer in the world was everyone else and there is no reason to beleive his cooking in any different nuttin wrong with my logic . |
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...And what constitutes a "decent one"?
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...Where is it set in stone that the more expensive the better it is?
It's not 'carved in stone' - we live in an age where Nike could sell dog turds 50 bucks a peice - but that doesn't mean if you spend 50 bucks you're buying a turd but you're missing the point that R.S. cannot identify food at all - be it better or worse - by his own admission - ergo he cannot possible cook 'good' food - because he does not know what 'good' food taste like he missed the implications himself . . |
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Gary Rhodes is a perfectionist but, AFAIK, never considered himself perfect as a dancer.
His approach to cooking is the same, and since we can't taste it, we can only assume he is no more competant in that GR perfection starts and ends inside his own head - as does RS . |
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His whole approach to dancing was one of perfection (and arrogance), and we can see he was not even 'competant'
His approach to cooking is the same, and since we can't taste it, we can only assume he is no more competant in that GR perfection starts and ends inside his own head - as does RS . Think about it. |
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Let's hope the ignorant Rick Stein and the arrogant Gary Rhodes never set up restuarants because they would be complete and utter failures!
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Jethro , how many hours have you spent in a kitchen ?
Can you even cook ? The only way to judge anyones cooking abilities is by eating thier produce , have you ever tried either of the chefs food ? I am a painter and decorator and you would be amazed how many times I've been called in to fix the shambles that those who believe "anyone can do it" have created. I wouldn't be suprised if you burn water.
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an extrordinary talent could surpass. where celerity chefs have thrust themselves into the limelight
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which makes you or I equally competant and celebrity chefs no more or less than talentless people.
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he's actually crap dancer = he's prolly a crap cook
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nuttin wrong with my logic
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After near 20 years in sales nobody knows this lingo better than me
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It's not 'carved in stone' - we live in an age where Nike could sell dog turds 50 bucks a peice
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ergo he cannot possible cook 'good' food
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His whole approach to dancing was one of perfection (and arrogance), and we can see he was not even 'competant'
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His approach to cooking is the same, and since we can't taste it, we can only assume he is no more competant in that
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GR perfection starts and ends inside his own head - as does RS.
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I before E is tosh......
What about: beige, cleidoic, codeine, conscience, deify, deity, deign, dreidel, eider, eight, either, feign, feint, feisty, foreign, forfeit, freight, gleization, gneiss, greige, greisen, heifer, height, heinous, heir, heist, leitmotiv, neigh, neighbor, neither, peignoir, prescient, rein, science, seiche, seidel, seine, seismic, seize, sheik, society, sovereign, surfeit, teiid, veil, vein, weight, weir, weird, caffeine, casein, codeine, , disseize, either, geisha, inveigle, keister, leisure, monteith, neither, obeisance, phenolphthalein, phthalein, protein, seize, seizin, sheik, specie, species, |
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I was going to point that out
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Bugger !
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Correcting someone is a minefield when it comes to the English language.
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Which is why I came to my senses and removed it
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Thank you for your observation! Exceptions aside, it is the general rule! Please don't correct my English - I do try and "dumb it down" a little for the benefit of people like the OP.
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Thank you for your observation!
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Thank you for your observation! Exceptions aside, it is the general rule! Please don't correct my English - I do try and "dumb it down" a little for the benefit of people like the OP.
Do not correct others if you can't take the same medicine.
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You're welcome, I do agree with you that the attention to spelling of some posters leaves a little to be desired.
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Sorry but you put yourself out there with your erroneous belief in the I before E remark.
Do not correct others if you can't take the same medicine. ![]() Shit... i don't believe i'm having this argument at 2:30am That's kind of surreal!
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Except it's not really an "erroneous belief" for the purposes of this forum. The vast majority of FM's apply that rule in everday life!
Shit... i don't believe i'm having this argument at 2:30am That's kind of surreal!
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At least I have the excuse of being extremely stoned.
![]() Well, Whisky seems to have done the trick with me! It's only about 20 minutes before I start singing eighties pop songs and crying about the "good old days" ![]() Yes! Yes I DID have a 3D bas-relief "John Travolta Head" (about 4 times large that his actual head) stuck to my wall as a child! "Grease" was the big thing in those days.... <runs away to consider his childhood> |
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That's kind of surreal!