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Old 24-10-2008, 17:01
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I used to think cookery was a skill, where like all skills, people with an extrordinary talent could surpass. That was until the last couple of years where celerity chefs have thrust themselves into the limelight and exposed their incompetance

1/ Rick Stein who cannot tell the difference between cheap supermarket Xmas pud and a decent one

Neither can he tell the difference between a supermarket turkey and a free range turkey (costing 8 times as much), and openly admitted he was spying in the kitchen hoping to find clues other than the taste

He quite clearly considered this a 'bit of fun' and does not understand how this basically makes him totally incompetant as a cook


2 / Gary Rhodes who considers himself 'a perfectionist' and tried to translate his 'talent' onto the dance floor where he likewise considered himself nothing less than perfection when in fact he was totally crap. And from this we can deduce (his own opinion aside) his cooking is no better than his dancing

Now i know cookery is no more or less than "an opinion" which makes you or I equally competant and celebrity chefs no more or less than talentless people with over-inflated egos immersed in their own self-importance

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Old 24-10-2008, 17:07
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I used to think cookery was a skill, where like all skills, people with an extrordinary talent could surpass. That was until the last couple of years where celerity chefs have thrust themselves into the limelight and exposed their incompetance

1/ Rick Stein who cannot tell the difference between cheap supermarket Xmas pud and a decent one

Neither can he tell the difference between a supermarket turkey and a free range turkey (costing 8 times as much), and openly admitted he was spying in the kitchen hoping to find clues other than the taste

He quite clearly considered this a 'bit of fun' and does not understand how this basically makes him totally incompetant as a cook


2 / Gary Rhodes who considers himself 'a perfectionist' and tried to translate his 'talent' onto the dance floor where he likewise considered himself nothing less than perfection when in fact he was totally crap. And from this we can deduce (his own opinion aside) his cooking is no better than his dancing

Now i know cookery is no more or less than "an opinion" which makes you or I equally competant and celebrity chefs no more or less than talentless people with over-inflated egos immersed in their own self-importance

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I was quite interested in your post up to the point where you decided, because Gary Rhodes is a crap dancer, it follows that he's a crap cook. I'd polish up your "deductive" skills.
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Old 24-10-2008, 18:54
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I was quite interested in your post up to the point where you decided, because Gary Rhodes is a crap dancer, it follows that he's a crap cook. I'd polish up your "deductive" skills.
Totally agree. You don't need to like the chefs or their personalities to acknowledge that they are pretty good at their day jobs.


And what constitutes a "decent one"?
Where is it set in stone that the more expensive the better it is?
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Old 24-10-2008, 19:27
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I was quite interested in your post up to the point where you decided, because Gary Rhodes is a crap dancer, it follows that he's a crap cook. I'd polish up your "deductive" skills.
Exactly, thats like saying if you good in one job you can do any job. utter rubbish.
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Old 24-10-2008, 19:44
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I used to think cookery was a skill, where like all skills, people with an extrordinary talent could surpass. That was until the last couple of years where celerity chefs have thrust themselves into the limelight and exposed their incompetance

1/ Rick Stein who cannot tell the difference between cheap supermarket Xmas pud and a decent one

Neither can he tell the difference between a supermarket turkey and a free range turkey (costing 8 times as much), and openly admitted he was spying in the kitchen hoping to find clues other than the taste

He quite clearly considered this a 'bit of fun' and does not understand how this basically makes him totally incompetant as a cook


2 / Gary Rhodes who considers himself 'a perfectionist' and tried to translate his 'talent' onto the dance floor where he likewise considered himself nothing less than perfection when in fact he was totally crap. And from this we can deduce (his own opinion aside) his cooking is no better than his dancing

Now i know cookery is no more or less than "an opinion" which makes you or I equally competant and celebrity chefs no more or less than talentless people with over-inflated egos immersed in their own self-importance

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Gary Rhodes is a perfectionist but, AFAIK, never considered himself perfect as a dancer.
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Old 24-10-2008, 20:59
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I was quite interested in your post up to the point where you decided, because Gary Rhodes is a crap dancer, it follows that he's a crap cook. I'd polish up your "deductive" skills.
he 'thinks' he's good dancer & he 'thinks' he's a good cook

he's actually crap dancer = he's prolly a crap cook

it was clear to see the only thing stopping him thinking he was the best dancer in the world was everyone else and there is no reason to beleive his cooking in any different

nuttin wrong with my logic
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Old 24-10-2008, 21:21
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...And what constitutes a "decent one"?
One that the 'majority' like?

...Where is it set in stone that the more expensive the better it is?
After near 20 years in sales nobody knows this lingo better than me

It's not 'carved in stone' - we live in an age where Nike could sell dog turds 50 bucks a peice - but that doesn't mean if you spend 50 bucks you're buying a turd

but you're missing the point that R.S. cannot identify food at all - be it better or worse - by his own admission - ergo he cannot possible cook 'good' food - because he does not know what 'good' food taste like

he missed the implications himself

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Old 24-10-2008, 22:58
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Gary Rhodes is a perfectionist but, AFAIK, never considered himself perfect as a dancer.
His whole approach to dancing was one of perfection (and arrogance), and we can see he was not even 'competant'

His approach to cooking is the same, and since we can't taste it, we can only assume he is no more competant in that

GR perfection starts and ends inside his own head - as does RS

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Old 24-10-2008, 23:03
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His whole approach to dancing was one of perfection (and arrogance), and we can see he was not even 'competant'

His approach to cooking is the same, and since we can't taste it, we can only assume he is no more competant in that

GR perfection starts and ends inside his own head - as does RS

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His whole approach to dancing was to attempt perfection. His approach to cooking was the same. his abilities at the two different skills vary a lot.

Think about it.
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Old 25-10-2008, 01:21
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Let's hope the ignorant Rick Stein and the arrogant Gary Rhodes never set up restuarants because they would be complete and utter failures!
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Old 25-10-2008, 01:39
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Jethro , how many hours have you spent in a kitchen ?
Can you even cook ?
The only way to judge anyones cooking abilities is by eating thier produce , have you ever tried either of the chefs food ?

I am a painter and decorator and you would be amazed how many times I've been called in to fix the shambles that those who believe "anyone can do it" have created.

I wouldn't be suprised if you burn water.
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Old 25-10-2008, 01:48
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an extrordinary talent could surpass. where celerity chefs have thrust themselves into the limelight
makes him totally incompetant as a cook
Your spelling ability amazes me!

which makes you or I equally competant and celebrity chefs no more or less than talentless people.
OK. Fine!

he's actually crap dancer = he's prolly a crap cook
Is prolly even a word???

nuttin wrong with my logic
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Nope, nuttin(sic) wrong at all!

After near 20 years in sales nobody knows this lingo better than me
Should that be "Nearly" ?

It's not 'carved in stone' - we live in an age where Nike could sell dog turds 50 bucks a peice
Or is that peace or maybe piece ? Remember : "I" before "E" except after "C" !!

ergo he cannot possible cook 'good' food
Shit... ergo... have we mastered latin now? Nope.... you have gone and spoilt it with the "possible"!!

His whole approach to dancing was one of perfection (and arrogance), and we can see he was not even 'competant'
Really... ???

His approach to cooking is the same, and since we can't taste it, we can only assume he is no more competant in that
It's that word again!

GR perfection starts and ends inside his own head - as does RS.
Is that some kind of secret code??
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Old 25-10-2008, 01:57
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I before E is tosh......

What about:

beige, cleidoic, codeine, conscience, deify, deity, deign,
dreidel, eider, eight, either, feign, feint, feisty,
foreign, forfeit, freight, gleization, gneiss, greige,
greisen, heifer, height, heinous, heir, heist,
leitmotiv, neigh, neighbor, neither, peignoir, prescient,
rein, science, seiche, seidel, seine, seismic, seize, sheik,
society, sovereign, surfeit, teiid, veil, vein, weight,
weir, weird, caffeine, casein, codeine, , disseize, either, geisha, inveigle,
keister, leisure, monteith, neither, obeisance,
phenolphthalein, phthalein, protein, seize, seizin, sheik,
specie, species,
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Old 25-10-2008, 02:07
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I was going to point that out
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Old 25-10-2008, 02:10
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Bugger !
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Old 25-10-2008, 02:12
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Correcting someone is a minefield when it comes to the English language.
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Old 25-10-2008, 02:12
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Which is why I came to my senses and removed it
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Old 25-10-2008, 02:13
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Which is why I came to my senses and removed it
Ditto
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Old 25-10-2008, 02:13
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Thank you for your observation! Exceptions aside, it is the general rule! Please don't correct my English - I do try and "dumb it down" a little for the benefit of people like the OP.
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Old 25-10-2008, 02:19
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Thank you for your observation!
You're welcome, I do agree with you that the attention to spelling of some posters leaves a little to be desired.
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Old 25-10-2008, 02:22
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Thank you for your observation! Exceptions aside, it is the general rule! Please don't correct my English - I do try and "dumb it down" a little for the benefit of people like the OP.
Sorry but you put yourself out there with your erroneous belief in the I before E remark.
Do not correct others if you can't take the same medicine.
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Old 25-10-2008, 02:25
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You're welcome, I do agree with you that the attention to spelling of some posters leaves a little to be desired.
Not just spelling! Grammar, punctuation, diction - they all come under fire from the limp cannons of literacy that appear to be prevalent in today’s society!
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Old 25-10-2008, 02:30
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Sorry but you put yourself out there with your erroneous belief in the I before E remark.
Do not correct others if you can't take the same medicine.
Except it's not really an "erroneous belief" for the purposes of this forum. The vast majority of FM's apply that rule in everday life!

Shit... i don't believe i'm having this argument at 2:30am That's kind of surreal!
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Old 25-10-2008, 02:33
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Except it's not really an "erroneous belief" for the purposes of this forum. The vast majority of FM's apply that rule in everday life!

Shit... i don't believe i'm having this argument at 2:30am That's kind of surreal!
At least I have the excuse of being extremely stoned.
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Old 25-10-2008, 02:34
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At least I have the excuse of being extremely stoned.
LMFAO!!!

Well, Whisky seems to have done the trick with me! It's only about 20 minutes before I start singing eighties pop songs and crying about the "good old days"

Yes! Yes I DID have a 3D bas-relief "John Travolta Head" (about 4 times large that his actual head) stuck to my wall as a child!

"Grease" was the big thing in those days.... <runs away to consider his childhood>
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