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"BBC's race horror over Strictly Come Dancing"
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gorlagon
28-10-2008
I don't think vast swathes of Middle England actively cast racist votes by refusing to back black contestants. Neither do I think people consciously consider race when they place their votes. Neither do I think race is an element in BBC thinking. I agree with the posters who have said the best dancers will gather votes completely irrespective of ethnicity.

However, I do think that people tend to vote for those with whom they identify. They're not thinking race, gender, sexuality or anything like it - but they are attracted to contestants with whom they feel simpatico. And this *does* have an effect on black contestants who *aren't* the best dancers.

Much of this thread is terribly defensive. It's not nice to confront subconscious prejudice but it does exist.
p381
28-10-2008
Originally Posted by grogdog:
“Winners
Best UK female Estelle

Best UK male Dizzee Rascal

Best UK newcomer Chipmunk

Best international act Chris Brown

Best reggae act Mavado

Best jazz act YolanDa Brown

Best gospel act Jahaziel

Best African act 9ice

Best song American Boy/Estelle

Best R&B/soul act Chris Brown

Best hip-hop act Lil' Wayne

Best video Bleeding Love/Leona Lewis

Best album Spirit/Leona Lewis

Best radio DJ Trevor Nelson

Best club DJ Tim Westwood

Lifetime achievement Motown

BeMOBO Ricky McCalla

loads of white artists there, not one winner ,how racist is that ”


Well Tim Westwood did win Best Club DJ.

Amy Winehouse & Joss Stone cleared up at the MOBO's a few years ago!

The same could be said about the NME & MTV awards though.......never loads of Black artistes winning anything there either. [Rihanna could strike lucky this year i suppose ].

I could go on, but i think we're straying off the subject now.
Endemoniada
28-10-2008
Originally Posted by gorlagon:
“Much of this thread is terribly defensive. It's not nice to confront subconscious prejudice but it does exist.”

Correct. Too many people are too shit-scared to go on the offensive against this type of lazy, unsubstantiated, snide and cowardly innuendo.

I suspect most articles of this nature are written without the slightest intention of inviting people to confront subconscious prejudice. I think some of the responses in this thread could be taken as evidence of that. More likely it's about creating prejudice and suspicion by putting people on the defensive when there's nothing concrete being offered that requires defending.
gossipfan
28-10-2008
Originally Posted by Auds77:
“I didn't even notice it was two black contestants in the dance off until I saw this thread and I'm sure many others didn't either.”

Same here. It's no more relevant than having two men in the dance off. Or two women. Or two sportsmen. Or two singers.

As other posters have pointed out, Colin and Denise came second and were just unlucky not to win, and the "non-white" contestants have survived into the top half in all but one of the series. How come they weren't voted off early on if the voting is racist?

What next in the conspiracy theory? Julian Clary came third behind Denise Lewis because he's gay? Some contestants were voted off because they're Welsh? (Aled Jones, Gethin Jones, and... oh look.... Colin Jackson again!) I suppose if Cherie's voted off it'll be because the audience is ageist.

It's sad that some people will believe any old rubbish that they read without checking the facts.
Moloko
28-10-2008
Originally Posted by grogdog:
“Winners
Best UK female Estelle

Best UK male Dizzee Rascal

Best UK newcomer Chipmunk

Best international act Chris Brown

Best reggae act Mavado

Best jazz act YolanDa Brown

Best gospel act Jahaziel

Best African act 9ice

Best song American Boy/Estelle

Best R&B/soul act Chris Brown

Best hip-hop act Lil' Wayne

Best video Bleeding Love/Leona Lewis

Best album Spirit/Leona Lewis

Best radio DJ Trevor Nelson

Best club DJ Tim Westwood

Lifetime achievement Motown

BeMOBO Ricky McCalla

loads of white artists there, not one winner ,how racist is that ”

Amy Winehouse won last year.
GRAHAM2109
08-11-2008
Is this the same racist public that voted for Alesha last year, Leona to win X Factor and Andy Abraham to represent UK at Eurovision.

Why is it always racist to the black community if a black person fails at something
Endemoniada
08-11-2008
Quote:
“"For me personally, if someone wants to have a proper conversation about bigotry and race then great, but not in a context that's salacious. It's too serious a topic for that," Small told the Daily Mail. "If I'm going to discuss it I'm going to be proactive about it, not reactive. Have I ever experienced discrimination, well, of course I have.

"But there's a time and a place to discuss these things, and it's not something that should be just flung at a situation. In terms of Strictly, if I didn't think people were going to be fair to me, then I wouldn't have taken part."”

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/strictly...sm-claims.html

A fair assessment I think.
beanbean
08-11-2008
yep good on Heather for saying that, as far as im concerned race has never been an issue on SCD.
Imogen M
08-11-2008
Heather's responce was classy and intelligent.

Articles like that just stirr the pot and widen any divides, and the morons who write them know this. It's amazing such idiotic bile makes it to print.
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