Originally Posted by jtnorth:
“Sorry, I'm being slow here - is the point that John included a 'lift' or that John's paso didn't have enough paso in it? John got very low marks on the night, by the standard of the other marks - presumably that was because of the lack of paso content. If John had marched and got 10 from Bruno and nobody made a fuss then I'd see this as double standards. Or am I misunderstanding?
The judges' trouble is that if John had got 1s and 2s, everyone on here would be saying that he was only still in because the judges created a backlash - I remember posters blaming the judges' marks for Kate last year. I think they are being very careful not to create more votes for John by their marks. As it stands, nobody can blame them for John still being in.
I agree that there should be more clarity about those 'sweeping along the floor' moves that might be intentional lifts and might not. But, unless I'm remembering wrong, none of Kelly and Brendan's lifts were 'unintentional' like that. They were blatent - and to me it was never a 4 tens dance so I never believed it was penalised. If they'd had 5s, I'd agree.”
“Sorry, I'm being slow here - is the point that John included a 'lift' or that John's paso didn't have enough paso in it? John got very low marks on the night, by the standard of the other marks - presumably that was because of the lack of paso content. If John had marched and got 10 from Bruno and nobody made a fuss then I'd see this as double standards. Or am I misunderstanding?
The judges' trouble is that if John had got 1s and 2s, everyone on here would be saying that he was only still in because the judges created a backlash - I remember posters blaming the judges' marks for Kate last year. I think they are being very careful not to create more votes for John by their marks. As it stands, nobody can blame them for John still being in.
I agree that there should be more clarity about those 'sweeping along the floor' moves that might be intentional lifts and might not. But, unless I'm remembering wrong, none of Kelly and Brendan's lifts were 'unintentional' like that. They were blatent - and to me it was never a 4 tens dance so I never believed it was penalised. If they'd had 5s, I'd agree.”
It's pretty clear...it's about the lack of paso content and, specifically, the comparison of that with an authentic AS which included one illegal lift...to which another FM added the very valid point that the paso included an illegal lift too.
What are you on about....4 tens? It got one ten and three eights...three judges clearly indicated they marked it down because of the extra lift...one judge claimed subsequently K & B should have been disqualified....and they didn't even top the leader board that week.
