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Old 26-10-2008, 18:16
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These white people might just be friends with black people that talk a certain way and they have slowly picked up the accent.

For three years in uni, my best friend was a japanese girl and in our final year we lived together. Towards our last days in uni, I found myself coming close to pronouncing my L like R (and vice versa) and sometimes in my head I use the japanese exclamation she uses. I am not trying to sound japanese, it just happens that I was exposed to the language.
The same might be true of the white people in question.
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Old 26-10-2008, 18:20
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It sounds pathetic.

I overheard a group of teenage lads the other day in a shop (two black & one white). The white kid was talking like a black kid and the other two were taking the piss out of him and calling him a 'wigger'.
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Old 26-10-2008, 18:23
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These white people might just be friends with black people that talk a certain way and they have slowly picked up the accent.
That's a plausible theory, we're social animals after all.

I guess the negative comments are about people affecting an accent - I can see why - but it's unfair on people who've just absorbed an accent by osmosis as it were.

PS After about one hour in Japan you absorb politeness.
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Old 26-10-2008, 18:33
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Some of you seem to be saying that Jamaica does not have its own accent.
Are you suggesting that all foreigners are like the anglicised familes from the skit in 'Goodness Gracious Me'?

On the other hand, the lad could have been a white Jamaican, they do exist.
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Old 26-10-2008, 18:44
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5 teenage girls in the teeny tiny village we live in speak like they come from the Bronx out wid ma mates in da hood etc etc, made even funnier when you realise there isnt a black person for miles around here for them to have picked this up from.
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Old 26-10-2008, 19:12
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Some of you seem to be saying that Jamaica does not have its own accent.
Are you suggesting that all foreigners are like the anglicised familes from the skit in 'Goodness Gracious Me'?

On the other hand, the lad could have been a white Jamaican, they do exist.
That's right, I've seen a few people on tv who are white and have carribbean accents. I thought the cricket commentator Tony Crozier was black for 20 years until I saw him on tv.
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Old 26-10-2008, 19:17
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They are all jolly bounders bruv innit.
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Old 26-10-2008, 19:54
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I should imagine that black people laugh at these white people copying them, and rightly so.
As someone else said, you also said "black people must laugh at these white people copying them." Another generalist statement.

It sounds pathetic.

I overheard a group of teenage lads the other day in a shop (two black & one white). The white kid was talking like a black kid and the other two were taking the piss out of him and calling him a 'wigger'.


See? I rest my case.
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Old 26-10-2008, 20:08
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I overheard a few words from some guy in tesco today. He sounded exactly like Ali G or any of the black guys that Ross Kemp interviewed in south london gangs. But this guy was 100% white! What's that all about? He sounded like he was from the west indies or the mixed up london version of it. That's the second time in two weeks I've heard someone speak like this. It just seems ridiculous and completely laughable. If he was speaking to me, I would most likely say to him "why on earth are you talking like that?". It would be like me putting on an indian accent or speaking like a chinese man and changing my 'r's to 'l's.

We all pick up a few phrases but something like this is losing your whole identity and taking on someone elses.
I should imagine that black people laugh at these white people copying them, and rightly so.

what you talkin' about Willis?
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Old 26-10-2008, 20:22
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5 teenage girls in the teeny tiny village we live in speak like they come from the Bronx out wid ma mates in da hood etc etc, made even funnier when you realise there isnt a black person for miles around here for them to have picked this up from.
What, they don't have TV, radio or music from which to pick up accents either? While you still have the internet? People in your teeny tiny village must think you are a wizard to have such amazing technology!
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Old 26-10-2008, 20:37
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As someone else said, you also said "black people must laugh at these white people copying them." Another generalist statement.
I agree. Just some of black people would be laughing. The rest would probably be annoyed. None of them would be impressed.
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Old 26-10-2008, 20:46
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Some white people acting black, yesterday.
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Old 26-10-2008, 21:13
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I'm a West-Indian South-Londoner and I have no issue with Jafakeans as I speak like the queen of England.
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Old 26-10-2008, 21:31
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Some white people acting black, yesterday.
They are a very musical people.
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Old 26-10-2008, 21:56
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Everyone's accent changes depending on the people they're around, and it happens more noticeably in young people, usually. I talked much broader Glaswegian when I was working in a corner shop than I do now I work in an office, just because I was exposed more to the Glaswegian accent. Even my Cornish flatmate occasionally came home from her job in the East End sounding totally Glasgow.

It's just that it only gets commented on when the accent they're moving towards is a "black accent" - not that there's any such thing, of course, since accents are geographical/ class-related, rather than race-related.
I've worked with Albanian/Cockney, which sounds very odd and Ukrainian/Cockney who sounds completely native
apart from the odd grammatical error and the fact that the chaps call him the crazy Russian.

There's also the middle classed girls around my area who talk Valley girl, can't remember what my daughters
call their tribe now, but I know they don't like them.

In any case the current 'jafakan' or whatever people want to call it has got very little to do with Jamaica.
I'd lay money on most of those who speak this way not seeing any connection with Jamaica either.
Just the latest youth speak/slang.

Hang on, haven't we done this subject before, it's DS, most subjects have been done before.
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Old 26-10-2008, 21:56
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That's a plausible theory, we're social animals after all.

I guess the negative comments are about people affecting an accent - I can see why - but it's unfair on people who've just absorbed an accent by osmosis as it were.

PS After about one hour in Japan you absorb politeness.
An interesting take on osmosis there...
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Old 26-10-2008, 22:04
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Today a young hooded white boy walk past me and the old lady beside me doing the cool gangster walk and by mistake he knock her shopping bags over as he walk past her but he did pick her bags up for her and he said to the poor old lady ........Me bad ....Peace.

She was not sure what he was saying but she knew in some way he was saying sorry.
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Old 26-10-2008, 22:07
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Today a young hooded white boy walk past me and the old lady beside me doing the cool gangster walk and by mistake he knock her shopping bags over as he walk past her but he did pick her bags up for her and he said to the poor old lady ........Me bad ....Peace.

She was not sure what he was saying but she knew in some way he was saying sorry.
WORD ..........
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Old 26-10-2008, 22:07
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Old 26-10-2008, 22:08
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It's YOUR Assumption that MY assumption is that all black people speak the same. Jump to conclusions much? MY meaning, right or wrong, was more on the lines that black people might laugh at some white guy trying to sound cool and mimicking A black person's accent and speaking style, because it's OBVIOUSLY part of black culture.
If it's any consolation, Bandola, I read and understood your first post, and without reading further, knew that you would be jumped on, accused of generalising, stereotyping, being racist - all of that stuff. And you were.

Some (please note, I said some!) people are only too happy to storm in and create chaos where there wasn't any.
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Old 26-10-2008, 22:11
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I overheard a few words from some guy in tesco today. He sounded exactly like Ali G or any of the black guys that Ross Kemp interviewed in south london gangs. But this guy was 100% white! What's that all about? He sounded like he was from the west indies or the mixed up london version of it. That's the second time in two weeks I've heard someone speak like this. It just seems ridiculous and completely laughable. If he was speaking to me, I would most likely say to him "why on earth are you talking like that?". It would be like me putting on an indian accent or speaking like a chinese man and changing my 'r's to 'l's.

We all pick up a few phrases but something like this is losing your whole identity and taking on someone elses.
I should imagine that black people laugh at these white people copying them, and rightly so.
It annoys the hell out of me! It's a fashion thing though, so I guess we'll have to put up with it until the next craze comes in.
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Old 26-10-2008, 22:12
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If it's any consolation, Bandola, I read and understood your first post, and without reading further, knew that you would be jumped on, accused of generalising, stereotyping, being racist - all of that stuff. And you were.

Some (please note, I said some!) people are only too happy to storm in and create chaos where there wasn't any.
I've only read the first post (and responded to it) but can just imagine what you're talking about. Christ, but some people have nothing better to do than cry 'racism' eh.
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Old 26-10-2008, 22:12
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An interesting take on osmosis there...
Osmosis: A gradual, often unconscious process of assimilation or absorption:
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Old 26-10-2008, 22:12
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It annoys the hell out of me! It's a fashion thing though, so I guess we'll have to put up with it until the next craze comes in.
be jeebers is dat not the truth now .






just trying to kick start something here
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Old 26-10-2008, 22:14
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be jeebers is dat not the truth now .






just trying to kick start something here
Ah to be sure now

I really hope the whole irish ting takes off, I love an irish accent.
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