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Old 01-11-2008, 11:32
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On this site there's an article where Rhyd claims he was pretty much fed lines by the producers when he was on XF, that he was made to look like an arrogant penis in order to be more interesting/get further (!) as he didnt have a sob story. As we know, this was then used to paint him in a bad light as if he really WAS that sort of person

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/xfactor/...at-to-say.html

I can't believe he was told what to say and then painted so badly in the auditions stages
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:35
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"I had to sit in front of a camera for two hours being told what to say. They said: 'You're not going through to the final unless you say this.' Things like, 'Yeah, I want to be knighted', and 'Yeah, I've got the X factor'. I'd say, 'I don't want to say that. It's cringy'.
That's awful.
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:36
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Someone likes getting into trouble...
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:36
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Thats pretty embarrassing, producers need a kick up the arse
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:44
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Has Mr Cowell had anything to do with his album?
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:53
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On this site there's an article where Rhyd claims he was pretty much fed lines by the producers when he was on XF, that he was made to look like an arrogant penis in order to be more interesting/get further (!) as he didnt have a sob story. As we know, this was then used to paint him in a bad light as if he really WAS that sort of person

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/xfactor/...at-to-say.html

I can't believe he was told what to say and then painted so badly in the auditions stages
Ooops! looks like some-one isn't going to be in Simon's good books
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:54
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This is just a small part of a long and frank interview in today's Daily Mail, which DS has picked out. I believe he has mentioned this before - and Simon Cowell has a lot to do with his album, Rhydian is signed with him.
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:54
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When exactly is his album out anyway??
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:58
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Thats interesting about his album, I dont know exactly how much involvement Cowell had, maybe he picked some cover versions (like Somewhere) to be on there but it doesnt make him (Simon) look good...
Maybe he thought an arrogant persona would get him further.
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:59
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Guys, seriously...while what Rhyd is saying shows the show up for what it is, do you think that Simon is going to be happy with this?

Simon's credibilty and influence is going down the drain at the moment, IMO. This only puts him (as the main figurehead of the programme) into a rather dim light.
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:00
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When exactly is his album out anyway??
24 November

Of course Rhyd is signed with Simon Liz, so Simon has a lot to do with the album but I didnt know how much per se.
You're right Zip, Rhyd is signed with Cowell and it doesnt make him look good if Rhyd says his boss was controlling him (though that was what happened).
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:02
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Thing is though it's in the Daily Mail. They probably mis-quoted him or just sexed it up for attention. It's not like they haven't done it before and they seem to be on a campaign to clean up British TV at the moment. I reckon they just want to score points.
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:03
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Guys, seriously...while what Rhyd is saying shows the show up for what it is, do you think that Simon is going to be happy with this?

Simon's credibilty and influence is going down the drain at the moment, IMO. This only puts him (as the main figurehead of the programme) into a rather dim light.
Well.. unfortunately, I have to agree...
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:04
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Guys, seriously...while what Rhyd is saying shows the show up for what it is, do you think that Simon is going to be happy with this?

Simon's credibilty and influence is going down the drain at the moment, IMO. This only puts him (as the main figurehead of the programme) into a rather dim light.
True.

I wouldn't be suprised he was bumped from appearing on the show now.
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:06
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Guys, seriously...while what Rhyd is saying shows the show up for what it is, do you think that Simon is going to be happy with this?

Simon's credibilty and influence is going down the drain at the moment, IMO. This only puts him (as the main figurehead of the programme) into a rather dim light.

............does Simon still have credibility anyway ?

I think people knew all along that Rhydian was singled out as being "the bad guy" and that comments he made were edited to add credence to that. His comments tell us nothing we didn`t already know
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:06
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24 November

Of course Rhyd is signed with Simon Liz, so Simon has a lot to do with the album but I didnt know how much per se.
You're right Zip, Rhyd is signed with Cowell and it doesnt make him look good if Rhyd says his boss was controlling him (though that was what happened).
If that's the case, then I am really suprised that Rhyd is saying this stuff. Not that I'm saying he shouldn't - it's up to him.

However, surely it's the case that other people who have had careers from the XF don't openly criticise like this? Well, apart from Steve B?

I can't help but admire Rhyd for this...but I also think Simon will be unhappy. It's a bit like 'biting the hand'?

However, you never know...it could be all sanctioned in order to change opinion of Rhyd for the album release.
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:09
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True.

I wouldn't be suprised he was bumped from appearing on the show now.

..........a bit melodramatic don`t you think
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:10
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True.

I wouldn't be suprised he was bumped from appearing on the show now.
Could he really be so dim as to say that when his album is just about to be released and the show that made him is airing ...and he's about to be a guest..
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:11
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As Liz and Olga said, we've read things like this before - and I havent read the whole interview, maybe he was answering specific questions etc so things may be out of context. It could have been done to get publicity for the album...?
I do admire Rhyd for saying that though, he's told it as he sees it, not said "Everyone was great.."
I think Rhyd will still be on the show, I doubt he'd throw his appearance away
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:12
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I think it will make no difference, he has said this before on Welsh TV and it is only a small part of the article. I would be very surprised if his appearance on the X factor was pulled, the record company probably read through the article anyway before it went to press and gave it their OK - they provided the photo. The show gave him the arrogant image and this is a way of dispelling the idea that was the true Rhydian for those who still believe it. It deals with other myths too.
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:15
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As Liz and Olga said, we've read things like this before - and I havent read the whole interview, maybe he was answering specific questions etc so things may be out of context. It could have been done to get publicity for the album...?
I do admire Rhyd for saying that though, he's told it as he sees it, not said "Everyone was great.."
We don't know what he said exactly, and the press often make 5 with 2+2. I hope that it is the case, because Simon won't be too pleased about the story. He is has already reportedly fallen out with Pete Waterman about the Geraldine story, so it must be a sensitive issue....
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:15
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I think it will make no difference, he has said this before on Welsh TV and it is only a small part of the article. I would be very surprised if his appearance on the X factor was pulled, the record company probably read through the article anyway before it went to press and gave it their OK - they provided the photo. The show gave him the arrogant image and this is a way of dispelling the idea that was the true Rhydian for those who still believe it. It deals with other myths too.
......I would imagine every article and interview done is meticulously double-checked by management and agreed before it goes to press. Similar comments ie that he was badly edited by producers is old news - the Welsh press picked up on it last year. I just love his honesty
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:15
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That's a good point Liz, its also saying "The arrogant Rhyd isn't the real Rhyd".
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:16
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I think it will make no difference, he has said this before on Welsh TV and it is only a small part of the article. I would be very surprised if his appearance on the X factor was pulled, the record company probably read through the article anyway before it went to press and gave it their OK - they provided the photo. The show gave him the arrogant image and this is a way of dispelling the idea that was the true Rhydian for those who still believe it. It deals with other myths too.
I think this depends what you think of Rhyd though. I've read the whole article...I'm not sure he comes over all that well, guys. But then, I'll be honest. I have have always found him gobby; just to be honest and up front about that.

The Daily Mail article didn't warm me to him at all.
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:16
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On this site there's an article where Rhyd claims he was pretty much fed lines by the producers when he was on XF, that he was made to look like an arrogant penis in order to be more interesting/get further (!) as he didnt have a sob story. As we know, this was then used to paint him in a bad light as if he really WAS that sort of person

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/xfactor/...at-to-say.html

I can't believe he was told what to say and then painted so badly in the auditions stages
I told you the show is fake, it`s sooooo obvious.
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