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Old 02-11-2008, 11:53
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So where is this "raw talent" of Rachel's. When's it going to surface, coz all her performances so far have been poor to average. I think the judges massively overrated her at the audition stage, she isn't even a particularly great singer, has no stage presence, she is a bad performer in general.

I think some of the comments on here about her personal life are a bit harsh seeing as she was only 13 when she got pregnant...

However I cannot help thinking, if she wants to do this for her kids, why doesn't she go out and get a job to support them instead of going on the X Factor. She is currently on benefits.

I do not have a problem with people who are in need of help from the state but I am sure that if is able to go on the X Factor she is able to go out and work to support her children.

It's like people nowadays want the easy option. There was a time when British people would take whatever job they could to support their kids, because there was no safety net if they had no money.
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Old 02-11-2008, 11:54
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is she still able to claim benefits if she's technically working on x factor??? and who's looking after the children?
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Old 02-11-2008, 11:56
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is she still able to claim benefits if she's technically working on x factor??? and who's looking after the children?
Who's looking after daniel's children?
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Old 02-11-2008, 11:57
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The raw talent we saw in her audition has long gone.

She's being moulded into something else. Hence her singing what she really likes i.e. Mary J. Bilge.

I don't like her never have. But she isn't the Rachel we saw at first. She's gone. Certainly her attitude need to change as she was awful but she's been styled to death.
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Old 02-11-2008, 11:58
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Who's looking after daniel's children?
The mother of his other son is looking after the little girl.
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Old 02-11-2008, 11:58
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daniels children are looked after by his mum

his other 2 children which he had with a differant women are with there mum
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Old 02-11-2008, 11:58
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is she still able to claim benefits if she's technically working on x factor??? and who's looking after the children?


As far as I know she doesn't actually have custody of her kids, except one? Aren't the others still in care? I may have that wrong.

She is an appalling live performer, she doesn't have raw talent - she is simply a gobby, brash woman with a big mouth who had the requisite sob story to make her appearance on the show justified. None of her performances have been anything but cringeworthy and who ever is doing her styling needs sacking. Her disgraceful churlish behaviour on Xtra Factor last night did little to endear her to me either.

One of the worst contestants of all time IMHO.
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:06
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Actually, she does have talent, shes not my fav, but she can carry a tune.
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:08
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is she still able to claim benefits if she's technically working on x factor??? and who's looking after the children?
I guessing she has other family members apart from herself and the kids.

OP - Was she jobless at the time of auditioning, or on benefits as others have mentioned?
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:08
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I guessing she has other family members apart from herself and the kids.
yes but if she's claiming benefits she's meant to be the primary carer.
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:12
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yes but if she's claiming benefits she's meant to be the primary carer.
So even if she wasn't on X-Factor and the kids weren't school age, she's meant to have the kids with her 24hrs a day? Baby sister, nurseries and family members can used to care for someone's kids y'know! Yeesh.
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:12
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Actually, she does have talent, shes not my fav, but she can carry a tune.
Well, she can manage some of the notes at least.
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:12
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I guessing she has other family members apart from herself and the kids.

OP - Was she jobless at the time of auditioning, or on benefits as others have mentioned?
Well according to this article (well it is the NOTW)

"She gets the same benefits she’s been claiming for years"

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/show...-the-show.html
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:15
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Jobless or not, benefit-receiving or not, her form of Asbo-Rock just doesn't do it for me.
In last night's sing off she scared me, she was so aggressive.
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:16
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I personally think that rachel would be better off being kicked off the show.

There's a whole raft of producers out there who could work with that voice and attitude. it wouldn't take much to fashion a presence for her.

i think she's a little "full-on" for the twee, mums and nannies that x factor goes for.

but she can hit some notes, she certainly has that "edge" and she'd not do so well singing "the winners song".
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:17
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Well according to this article (well it is the NOTW)

"She gets the same benefits she’s been claiming for years"

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/show...-the-show.html
Off-topic but that article in the link said:
Bosses at ITV got their fingers burned when Celeb Big Brother paid Jade Goody’s loudmouth mum Jackiey Budden while she claimed incapacity benefit.
Wouldn't that be CH4?
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:17
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As far as I know she doesn't actually have custody of her kids, except one? Aren't the others still in care? I may have that wrong.

She is an appalling live performer, she doesn't have raw talent - she is simply a gobby, brash woman with a big mouth who had the requisite sob story to make her appearance on the show justified. None of her performances have been anything but cringeworthy and who ever is doing her styling needs sacking. Her disgraceful churlish behaviour on Xtra Factor last night did little to endear her to me either.

One of the worst contestants of all time IMHO.

Totally agree...............and whoever styled her last night wants sacking - awful dress - her hair looked terrible and showed her spotty forehead - not a good look
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:21
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Some on this forum are 10,000 more scary then Rachel will ever be.

To be so heartless and vile and then picking on someone thinking they are the one with this behaviour, is really sad to see.
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:25
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Totally agree...............and whoever styled her last night wants sacking - awful dress - her hair looked terrible and showed her spotty forehead - not a good look
LOL You're not one to mince words!
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:32
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This forum is actually pathetic when it comes to things like this and the irony in threads related to Rachel is very funny. Shes trying to make something of herself. Why should we hold her past against her just because people don't like her? People are always going on about how its the voice that counts.
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:35
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The hair is awful last night.. but hell to the yeah she can sing!
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:38
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So even if she wasn't on X-Factor and the kids weren't school age, she's meant to have the kids with her 24hrs a day? Baby sister, nurseries and family members can used to care for someone's kids y'know! Yeesh.
I'm not saying that at all! But during X factor they all live in that house don't they so the kids must be with someone else 24/7??

I don't know - I was just asking!
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:39
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how anyone can say she cant sing is beyond me.

her raw talent is there but she for some reason aint showing it now i dunno whats going on behind the scenes but dannii has got to sort this out because its not fair...

hopefully she will bounce back and give a performance like feelin good/chasing cars/no good for mariah week.

rache looks after her own kids, thats why she is not in hardly any video's with the contestants, not because she hates them but because she spends as much time as she can with her children...which good on her i say!
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Old 02-11-2008, 13:05
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I'm not saying that at all! But during X factor they all live in that house don't they so the kids must be with someone else 24/7??
I refer you back to my original answer. With. Family. Members.
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Old 02-11-2008, 13:15
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Blah blah raw talent blah blah blah.

Who cares?
As long as she entertains.

And she isn't at the moment.
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