Should Grunge music comeback.

Just think about it rock music is dead right now.

Remember bands like Nirvana,Alice In Chains,Soundgarden,Screeming trees,Ugly Kid Joe,and more.

Not to forget Pearl Jam and Temple of Dog.

Think about it - grunge was the beginning of the end of rock music. In the late 80s/early 90s, Guns N' Roses and Metallica decimated the hair metal movement and brought proper rock music into the mainstream. It was when Nirvana came along, with their simplistic song structures reminiscent of the punk days, that opened the door for the type of indie music which we see today. Radio-friendly, but a serious lack in the talent department.

However, grunge was far better than indie - it was louder and, especially in the case of Alice In Chains and Pearl Jam, more technically proficient than indie. Yet despite this, I'd much rather see a return to mainstream for hard-rock and metal bands like Guns N' Roses, AC/DC and Metallica. And judging by the album sales for the latter two, and the recent announcement that GNRs new album will finally be arriving on November 23rd, I think it stands a much better chance of making a return to the mainstream than grunge does.

No.Never it was bad enough first time round.I think it damaged rock music badly.Everyone thought they could do grunge and they just couldn't.

It was good for the time but the moment has passed. If it were rehashed now it would just be the same old same old.

And if you're looking for Screaming Trees...Mark Lanegan has teamed up with Greg Dulli from the Afghan Whigs to form the Gutter Twins and their recent album Saturnalia is awesome. It's not grunge (it's actually quite blues-y) but it's very good indeed.

True but the way I see it and history has told me.Punk Hard Rock & Grunge had all one thing in common and it's not hard to spot.

Punk said what was on it's mind & was sick of all the Queen style of music.

Hard Rock was there to stick it too the man and all the garbage pop music coming out back then like Shaken Stevens.

Grunge was sick of media politics and all the Groove is in the heart and MC Hammer rubbish.

True, while all were anti-establishment, there was still a war between grunge and hard-rock. Grunge drew the battle lines when Nirvana declined to tour with Guns N' Roses. If that tour had transpired, rock as we know it today may be very different. But alas, Kurt Cobain's refusal to see his music on an equal plane with that of GNR meant that only one could go on to dominate the 90s. In the end, it turned out to be Nirvana, with GNR self-imploding after the release of the UYI albums.

No..It killed the rock scene

Not really I think The White Stripes did it.

What Kurt did was to take the West Coast hardcore music, which was often very political, and made it personal and introspective. The blend of punk attitudes and hard rock in the hardcore bands generally expressed anger at political targets, e.g. the Dead Kennedys, but Nirvana turned the anger inwards (not wholly original since that was what the 1980s emo bands were doing but Nirvana brought that music centre-stage.)

The hardcore scene had evolved since its early days and was no longer just about very fast riffs and shouted vocals but had developed a more melodic, almost traditional approach (e.g. Fugazi.) Even experimental noise bands like Sonic Youth were becoming much more melodic in their songwriting (enough for them to sign to major label Geffen by 1990.)

Kurt and Nirvana wanted to keep the punk / rock attitude of hardcore but with the more tuneful elements which were emerging, particularly with bands like the Pixies. While Kurt was a fan of more traditional rock bands his influences were eclectic and he admired the Scottish indie band the Vaselines as much as, say, Minor Threat or Black Flag.

When Nirvana really took off the writing was more or less on the wall for traditional hard rock music. There was no room any more for the macho posturing and adolescent sex fantasies of the heavy rock bands.

When grunge fizzled out after Cobain's death the UK was in the grip of the Britpop phenomenon and had no time for whatever was going on in the world of hard rock music. In the US rock came back with the same style of introspection which typified Nirvana's music with bands such as Korn and the Deftones and almost as a counterpoint to that level of seriousness there was a burgeoning of more radio-friendly and more playful punk / rock music which spawned the likes of Green Day, Limp Bizkit and at its silliest Blink 182 and Sum 41.

This "nu-metal" genre was a definite break from traditional metal in that it was an evolution of the hard rock sound, mixing elements of funk, rap and even reggae into the music and if anything "killed off" traditional hard rock it was this - an evolution, a way to keep rock music alive by a process of change, by fusing musical styles or adopting lyrical content more closely associated with bedroom indie bands.

And through all this it didn't help that the flagship trad rock band Guns'n'Roses took an extended sabbatical. Whatever Axl Rose's reasons for the band being on such a long hiatus, I'd hazard a guess that he saw that there was no room for them in the prevailing climate of the late 90s and early 2000s, that bands like them were in severe danger of becoming an anachronism.

Whether their day will come again I don't know. We'll have to see when (if?) the new GNR album arrives.

Amen.

I loved nu-metal. I was so pissed off when Mtv stopped playing numetal music in 2002 and opted for that awful indie dross.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKb6N_w5n2A

Grunge can't come back, it left with him!

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Karl Rove, meet question mark.

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24th November 2008 (that's 17 days away) - Worldwide release. See www.gunsnroses.com

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The early nineties was a terrible time for rock music - grunge killed so many rock bands it was amazing. I hated Nirvana, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains and Pearl Jam with a passion. Miserable gits singing depressing songs. Go to one of their gigs and the show they put on might as well be a bunch of hoodies stood moaning to themselves in a corner in a shopping mall. You couldn't tell who was the band and who was the crowd - they were all whining about something.

When I go to a gig, or buy an album, I want a band to put on a show, to sing songs that excite the crowd, to have a singer who puts on a performance that deserves to be applauded, not to sulk in a corner like some petulant scruffy kid witha chinny beard.

I hate to say it, but thank God for Justin Hawkins coming along and kicking the miserable bastards up the arse and telling them to get a life. Suddenly it became acceptable to like bands who wanted to enjoy themselves. Falsetto vocals and Freddie Mercury catsuits were back!!!

Grunge died, rock music came back to life, and now what have we got? New albums and tours by Iron Maiden, AC/DC, Whitesnake, Def Leppard, GnR, Queen, Paul Rodgers, Y&T, Kiss, Motorhead, Dio, Black Sabbath (well, Heaven & Hell), Deep Purple, Saxon, Magnum, Girlschool, Queensryche, Tesla, Thunder, Tigertailz, Bon Jovi, Journey, Heart, Aerosmith, etc etc etc. We've returned to 1970s and 1980s stadium rock - which is a good thing. Even Led Zeppelin are talking about reforming.

If grunge had survived and those whinging scruffy zitty kids had still been performing their maudlin funeral dirges in their lumberjack shirts and hoodies with their crap facial hair we'd have all ended up listening to the shit that they play on X Factor just to stop us topping ourselves.

Grunge is dead, long live (real) rock...

Alot of people forget Kurt died at a young age and made him a Jimi Hendrix and Nick Drake of his genration.

And that gave Grunge music and huge boost and rocketed other Grunge band from seattle.

Even Paul Mccartney has said what Nirvana did was take a unknown music scene from the underground and make people fall in love with it and get young people picking up guitars.And writing lyrics it was almost spritual as Jimi Hendrix and Nic Drake or something we done in our young age.

Bono-Nirvana was like of that band that were soo great they don't come so often,and did things that was so diffrent from hunders of guitar solos and looking like another Kiss rip off.

I would love for that type of grunge and alternative rock of the early 90's to come back.
It was much better and more artistic than what passes for rock now like the awful Nickelback.

I miss the early 90's for the Grunge,Alternative rock music and Shoegaze or American Indie.

I miss so many bands from the early 90's. I do have to disagree with the idea of Ugly Kid Joe being grunge though.

I loved lots of the bands of the time and a few are still around thankfully. I actually really like Alice In Chains new album.

One band that I thought were fantastic but couldn't really be categorised were Faith No More. I miss them.

Dude, have you been in a coma or something!
Your thread is 13 months old, why bump it now?*








*(apologies if you really have been in a coma!)

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Yet funnily enough the only band to survive that era was Pearl Jam who were more rock influenced than Nirvana.
Still going strong selling out concerts all over the world and once again hitting the top of the US charts with their latest album
A band that Kurt trashed for supposedly being too corporate that funnily enough probably turned out to be the least corporate of the lot.

Clearly you have never been to a Pearl Jam or Soundgarden gig.
Saw PJ a few months ago at Shepherds Bush couldn't hear any whining from the crowd or Ed - the crowd was singing far too loud for that! That's the sort of concert I love to go to when you just want to sing along with the band just like the rest of the crowd.

Alice In Chains are still going.

True but they did go into hiatus for a long time (understandably) they haven't been releasing albums or touring like PJ have.