Help connecting a blu ray to a plasma without HDMI

Springburnlass · 08-11-2008, 16:36

Hi,
Sorry if this has been asked before, but I need help to connect a Samsung blu ray player to a 2-year-old Bush plasma TV which doesnt have an HDMI connection.

The connections on the tv are.......

DVB Common Interface
scart x 3
s-video
AV in
PC in monitor & audio

Can it be done with any of these?

Thanks for your help.

Nigel Goodwin · 08-11-2008, 16:47

You don't have any HD inputs, apart from possibly VGA - so presumably it's not HD at all?. Best option would be an RGB SCART lead, but you won't get HD.

Are you sure it doesn't have Component inputs? (red, blue and green phono sockets), or a DVI socket. If it's only two years old, it should be HD Ready, and probably have HDMI.

bobcar · 08-11-2008, 20:27

It would help if you'd give us the model number.

Springburnlass · 10-11-2008, 17:51

Hi Bobcar,

This is the tv model number

bush idpdp42tv008

Hope it helps you to find a solution, thanks.

RobAnt · 10-11-2008, 18:18

Your TV has a DVI input, no VGA and no YpBpR component video (although SCART MAY support RGB, it simply doesn't say).

Unfortunately the TV isn't HD Ready, and doesn't have sufficient resolution to allow even the most basic HD performance. It would even struggle to be a computer monitor with 852x480 resolution.

Sorry, but if you want HD you'll have to buy a new TV/Monitor.

Click Here!

For the specification, it is about £400 overpriced by today's standards.

ntlhellworld · 10-11-2008, 18:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Springburnlass

Hi Bobcar,

This is the tv model number

bush idpdp42tv008

Hope it helps you to find a solution, thanks.

If the DVI port supports HDCP (I couldn't find out), then a HDMI to DVI cable should work.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Premium-HDMI-DVI-Cable-Metre/dp/B000GDI6FC/

-Chris

RobAnt · 10-11-2008, 18:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntlhellworld

If the DVI port supports HDCP (I couldn't find out), then a HDMI to DVI cable should work.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Premium-HDMI-DVI-Cable-Metre/dp/B000GDI6FC/

-Chris

No, it won't. The TV doesn't even have enough resolution for 720 performance. No HDCP, it's not HD Ready.

ntlhellworld · 10-11-2008, 18:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobAnt

No, it won't. The TV doesn't even have enough resolution for 720 performance. No HDCP, it's not HD Ready.

Doesn't need to.

HDCP is the only feature necessary to connect a blu-ray player to this display.

Many plasmas have strange odd resolutions - Pioneer are still selling 1024x720 displays.

-Chris

Nigel Goodwin · 10-11-2008, 23:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntlhellworld

Doesn't need to.

HDCP is the only feature necessary to connect a blu-ray player to this display.

Many plasmas have strange odd resolutions - Pioneer are still selling 1024x720 displays.

-Chris

Yes it does need to, 480 pixels is only American SD resolution, not even high enough for UK (PAL) SD resolution - completely useless for HD.

Connecting it via RGB SCART (if the player has a SCART socket?) would give the best picture, but only SD quality, as that's all the TV can display (and not even UK SD quality).

ntlhellworld · 11-11-2008, 01:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

Yes it does need to, 480 pixels is only American SD resolution, not even high enough for UK (PAL) SD resolution - completely useless for HD.

Connecting it via RGB SCART (if the player has a SCART socket?) would give the best picture, but only SD quality, as that's all the TV can display (and not even UK SD quality).

The possibility of not noticing any improvement is irrelevant, the OP simply wants to connect their blu-ray player to their TV.

Most blu-ray players don't have SCART, and even if they do, thats hardly satisfactory, its not even progressive (not even good enough for DVD watching imo).

Many pre-HDMI TVs do infact have undocumented DVI-HDCP support. In many cases the only way to find out is to try it yourself.

-Chris

Springburnlass · 12-11-2008, 17:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntlhellworld

Doesn't need to.

HDCP is the only feature necessary to connect a blu-ray player to this display.

Many plasmas have strange odd resolutions - Pioneer are still selling 1024x720 displays.

-Chris

Hi ntlhellworld,
So do you think I can connect this TV to a bluray?

Springburnlass · 12-11-2008, 17:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobAnt

Your TV has a DVI input, no VGA and no YpBpR component video (although SCART MAY support RGB, it simply doesn't say).

Unfortunately the TV isn't HD Ready, and doesn't have sufficient resolution to allow even the most basic HD performance. It would even struggle to be a computer monitor with 852x480 resolution.

Sorry, but if you want HD you'll have to buy a new TV/Monitor.

Click Here!

For the specification, it is about £400 overpriced by today's standards.

Hi,
I cant see a DVI socket, only DVB common interface........or are they the same thing?

RobAnt · 12-11-2008, 22:26

DVB common interface

DVI socket

RobAnt · 12-11-2008, 22:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Springburnlass

Hi ntlhellworld,
So do you think I can connect this TV to a bluray?

Sorry, you'll have to buy a new TV/Monitor.

Nigel Goodwin · 12-11-2008, 22:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Springburnlass

Hi ntlhellworld,
So do you think I can connect this TV to a bluray?

You can connect it via AV connections, or SCART (if your BluRay has it) - but the set is only SD (according to the resolution mentioned above) - so you won't get HD from it anyway. If your BluRay has S-Video this may be the best solution you have, but only an SD one.

RobAnt · 12-11-2008, 22:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

You can connect it via AV connections, or SCART (if your BluRay has it) - but the set is only SD (according to the resolution mentioned above) - so you won't get HD from it anyway. If your BluRay has S-Video this may be the best solution you have, but only an SD one.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...71&postcount=5

And I don't know of a blu-ray player supporting RGB either, as to work at hi-def it needs component, DVI or HDMI. What is the point of a blu-ray player, other than to play Blu-Ray disks?

By definition, it doesn't support HDCP either.

The guy needs a new TV or a £30 DVD player from Tesco's.

The best course to upgrading over time is to buy the TV first, knowing that he will be able to get a blu-ray player when he is ready. He couldn't play blu-ray disks on his blu-ray player on that TV anyway. As far as I know, blu-ray players upscale DVDs but don't downscale blu-ray disks. But if I'm wrong, I'd be happy to learn something new.

A good HD TV need not be phenomenally expensive, and doesn't need to cost much more than a good blu-ray player anyway.

PsychoTherapist · 17-11-2008, 18:12

Forget trying to connect Blu-ray to that TV, it's not a HD set. Chuck it and buy a proper HD Ready TV.

fastest finger · 29-11-2008, 01:35

If you REALLY want to connect a Blu-ray player to this TV, you'll need a HDMI to DVI cable and a 'HD Fury' adaptor which converts the picture to be viewable via VGA (PC) input and also solves the HDCP problem. HOWEVER, it won't carry any sound so you'll need a sound system of some sort.

You'll get a progressive scan picture which will look a little better than regular DVD, but if you want proper HD then it's time to upgrade your set.

08-11-2008, 16:36	#1
Springburnlass Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 11	Help connecting a blu ray to a plasma without HDMI Hi, Sorry if this has been asked before, but I need help to connect a Samsung blu ray player to a 2-year-old Bush plasma TV which doesnt have an HDMI connection. The connections on the tv are....... DVB Common Interface scart x 3 s-video AV in PC in monitor & audio Can it be done with any of these? Thanks for your help.

08-11-2008, 16:47	#2
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	You don't have any HD inputs, apart from possibly VGA - so presumably it's not HD at all?. Best option would be an RGB SCART lead, but you won't get HD. Are you sure it doesn't have Component inputs? (red, blue and green phono sockets), or a DVI socket. If it's only two years old, it should be HD Ready, and probably have HDMI.

08-11-2008, 20:27	#3
bobcar Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 14,718	It would help if you'd give us the model number.

10-11-2008, 17:51	#4
Springburnlass Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 11	Hi Bobcar, This is the tv model number bush idpdp42tv008 Hope it helps you to find a solution, thanks.

10-11-2008, 18:18	#5
RobAnt Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South West Posts: 10,218	Your TV has a DVI input, no VGA and no YpBpR component video (although SCART MAY support RGB, it simply doesn't say). Unfortunately the TV isn't HD Ready, and doesn't have sufficient resolution to allow even the most basic HD performance. It would even struggle to be a computer monitor with 852x480 resolution. Sorry, but if you want HD you'll have to buy a new TV/Monitor. Click Here! For the specification, it is about £400 overpriced by today's standards.

10-11-2008, 18:39	#6
ntlhellworld Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,649	Quote: Originally Posted by Springburnlass Hi Bobcar, This is the tv model number bush idpdp42tv008 Hope it helps you to find a solution, thanks. If the DVI port supports HDCP (I couldn't find out), then a HDMI to DVI cable should work. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Premium-HDMI-DVI-Cable-Metre/dp/B000GDI6FC/ -Chris

10-11-2008, 18:42	#7
RobAnt Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South West Posts: 10,218	Quote: Originally Posted by ntlhellworld If the DVI port supports HDCP (I couldn't find out), then a HDMI to DVI cable should work. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Premium-HDMI-DVI-Cable-Metre/dp/B000GDI6FC/ -Chris No, it won't. The TV doesn't even have enough resolution for 720 performance. No HDCP, it's not HD Ready.

10-11-2008, 18:48	#8
ntlhellworld Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,649	Quote: Originally Posted by RobAnt No, it won't. The TV doesn't even have enough resolution for 720 performance. No HDCP, it's not HD Ready. Doesn't need to. HDCP is the only feature necessary to connect a blu-ray player to this display. Many plasmas have strange odd resolutions - Pioneer are still selling 1024x720 displays. -Chris

10-11-2008, 23:05	#9
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by ntlhellworld Doesn't need to. HDCP is the only feature necessary to connect a blu-ray player to this display. Many plasmas have strange odd resolutions - Pioneer are still selling 1024x720 displays. -Chris Yes it does need to, 480 pixels is only American SD resolution, not even high enough for UK (PAL) SD resolution - completely useless for HD. Connecting it via RGB SCART (if the player has a SCART socket?) would give the best picture, but only SD quality, as that's all the TV can display (and not even UK SD quality).

11-11-2008, 01:14	#10
ntlhellworld Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,649	Quote: Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin Yes it does need to, 480 pixels is only American SD resolution, not even high enough for UK (PAL) SD resolution - completely useless for HD. Connecting it via RGB SCART (if the player has a SCART socket?) would give the best picture, but only SD quality, as that's all the TV can display (and not even UK SD quality). The possibility of not noticing any improvement is irrelevant, the OP simply wants to connect their blu-ray player to their TV. Most blu-ray players don't have SCART, and even if they do, thats hardly satisfactory, its not even progressive (not even good enough for DVD watching imo). Many pre-HDMI TVs do infact have undocumented DVI-HDCP support. In many cases the only way to find out is to try it yourself. -Chris

12-11-2008, 17:16	#11
Springburnlass Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 11	Quote: Originally Posted by ntlhellworld Doesn't need to. HDCP is the only feature necessary to connect a blu-ray player to this display. Many plasmas have strange odd resolutions - Pioneer are still selling 1024x720 displays. -Chris Hi ntlhellworld, So do you think I can connect this TV to a bluray?

12-11-2008, 17:18	#12
Springburnlass Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 11	Quote: Originally Posted by RobAnt Your TV has a DVI input, no VGA and no YpBpR component video (although SCART MAY support RGB, it simply doesn't say). Unfortunately the TV isn't HD Ready, and doesn't have sufficient resolution to allow even the most basic HD performance. It would even struggle to be a computer monitor with 852x480 resolution. Sorry, but if you want HD you'll have to buy a new TV/Monitor. Click Here! For the specification, it is about £400 overpriced by today's standards. Hi, I cant see a DVI socket, only DVB common interface........or are they the same thing?

12-11-2008, 22:26	#13
RobAnt Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South West Posts: 10,218	DVB common interface DVI socket

12-11-2008, 22:29	#14
RobAnt Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South West Posts: 10,218	Quote: Originally Posted by Springburnlass Hi ntlhellworld, So do you think I can connect this TV to a bluray? Sorry, you'll have to buy a new TV/Monitor.

12-11-2008, 22:31	#15
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by Springburnlass Hi ntlhellworld, So do you think I can connect this TV to a bluray? You can connect it via AV connections, or SCART (if your BluRay has it) - but the set is only SD (according to the resolution mentioned above) - so you won't get HD from it anyway. If your BluRay has S-Video this may be the best solution you have, but only an SD one.

12-11-2008, 22:36	#16
RobAnt Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South West Posts: 10,218	Quote: Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin You can connect it via AV connections, or SCART (if your BluRay has it) - but the set is only SD (according to the resolution mentioned above) - so you won't get HD from it anyway. If your BluRay has S-Video this may be the best solution you have, but only an SD one. http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...71&postcount=5 And I don't know of a blu-ray player supporting RGB either, as to work at hi-def it needs component, DVI or HDMI. What is the point of a blu-ray player, other than to play Blu-Ray disks? By definition, it doesn't support HDCP either. The guy needs a new TV or a £30 DVD player from Tesco's. The best course to upgrading over time is to buy the TV first, knowing that he will be able to get a blu-ray player when he is ready. He couldn't play blu-ray disks on his blu-ray player on that TV anyway. As far as I know, blu-ray players upscale DVDs but don't downscale blu-ray disks. But if I'm wrong, I'd be happy to learn something new. A good HD TV need not be phenomenally expensive, and doesn't need to cost much more than a good blu-ray player anyway.

17-11-2008, 18:12	#17
PsychoTherapist Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Liverpool, UK Posts: 2,194	Forget trying to connect Blu-ray to that TV, it's not a HD set. Chuck it and buy a proper HD Ready TV.

29-11-2008, 01:35	#18
fastest finger Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Heart of England. Posts: 8,633	If you REALLY want to connect a Blu-ray player to this TV, you'll need a HDMI to DVI cable and a 'HD Fury' adaptor which converts the picture to be viewable via VGA (PC) input and also solves the HDCP problem. HOWEVER, it won't carry any sound so you'll need a sound system of some sort. You'll get a progressive scan picture which will look a little better than regular DVD, but if you want proper HD then it's time to upgrade your set.

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