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the kate bush appreciation thread
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crazymonk
05-04-2011
I've totally fallen in love with this version now! I adore both versions, such an epic and sad song, alongside Kates unique voice! The auto-tune makes it sound like the computer is communicationg with her, I just love that!!
lil lexie
05-04-2011
Originally Posted by zounds:
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You do realise that this is an appreciation thread right?”

what's that got to do with anything - so to participate in an 'appreciation thread' you have to appreciate ALL that artists work?

come on zounds, it's a divisive track, you know half of her fans love it and the other half appear to loathe it but that's the great thing about KB, she doesn't do anything by halves and she doesn't make work to appease her fanbase - so unfortunately, there's gonna be moments where we all scream NO!!!

does anyone know if there's any b-sides connected with this track, I haven't (bothered) to check yet?
WelshNige
05-04-2011
Originally Posted by lil lexie:
“what's that got to do with anything - so to participate in an 'appreciation thread' you have to appreciate ALL that artists work?

come on zounds, it's a divisive track, you know half of her fans love it and the other half appear to loathe it but that's the great thing about KB, she doesn't do anything by halves and she doesn't make work to appease her fanbase - so unfortunately, there's gonna be moments where we all scream NO!!!

does anyone know if there's any b-sides connected with this track, I haven't (bothered) to check yet?”

This is from DS's terms and conditions:-

Quote:
“Appreciation Threads
Appreciation threads are designed to allow fans of a particular subject to engage in positive and lighthearted discussion of a subject. Negative posts in an appreciation thread are considered off-topic and will be removed. If you wish to discuss the subject of an appreciation thread you are welcome to post constructive negative comments in a separate thread.”

zounds
05-04-2011
Originally Posted by lil lexie:
“what's that got to do with anything - so to participate in an 'appreciation thread' you have to appreciate ALL that artists work?

come on zounds, it's a divisive track, you know half of her fans love it and the other half appear to loathe it but that's the great thing about KB, she doesn't do anything by halves and she doesn't make work to appease her fanbase - so unfortunately, there's gonna be moments where we all scream NO!!!

does anyone know if there's any b-sides connected with this track, I haven't (bothered) to check yet?”

Sorry man, but if every post is slagging off the new work...

Someone posted that they were going to check out the new single and he basically told them not to bother as it's a rehash of old crap.

I only pointed out that this is an appreciation thread - If anyone wants to go slag it off, they're quite welcome to start their own thread. I don't think I was out of order.

Let's let it drop eh? It's not what the thread is about.
lil lexie
05-04-2011
Originally Posted by WelshNige:
“This is from DS's terms and conditions:-”

at that rule! OMG, are they serious? Who wrote that? they really need to get out more.


Originally Posted by zounds:
“Sorry man, but if every post is slagging off the new work...

Someone posted that they were going to check out the new single and he basically told them not to bother as it's a rehash of old crap.

I only pointed out that this is an appreciation thread - If anyone wants to go slag it off, they're quite welcome to start their own thread. I don't think I was out of order.

Let's let it drop eh? It's not what the thread is about.”

sorry zounds my mistake, I wasn't familiar with the DS rules. But I do feel strongly that people should be aloud to voice constructive criticism (and I emphasize the word 'constructive') to anything an artist/filmmaker/musician does and that isn't to be mean or vindictive - merely just to point out the reason why they feel something doesn't work and start a separate thread up purely to criticize someone's work does, to me at least, seem a bit mean and vindictive and it's something I'm sure no fan wouldn't consider doing. But the rules are there in black and white and I guess we must abide by them to some to degree and I'd hate to see this thread turn into a Kate Bush cat-fight (can you imagine).

Anyhow, like I say, my mistake.
digit al
05-04-2011
Originally Posted by lil lexie:
“ at that rule! OMG, are they serious? Who wrote that? they really need to get out more.




sorry zounds my mistake, I wasn't familiar with the DS rules. But I do feel strongly that people should be aloud to voice constructive criticism (and I emphasize the word 'constructive') to anything an artist/filmmaker/musician does and that isn't to be mean or vindictive - merely just to point out the reason why they feel something doesn't work and start a separate thread up purely to criticize someone's work does, to me at least, seem a bit mean and vindictive and it's something I'm sure no fan wouldn't consider doing. But the rules are there in black and white and I guess we must abide by them to some to degree and I'd hate to see this thread turn into a Kate Bush cat-fight (can you imagine).

Anyhow, like I say, my mistake. ”

glad i didn't have to wade into this one
anyway, now that iggyman has started his 'not just for appreciation thread' i'll be glad to get back to appreciating Kate, her talent and existence!
lil lexie
05-04-2011
Originally Posted by digit al:
“glad i didn't have to wade into this one
anyway, now that iggyman has started his 'not just for appreciation thread' i'll be glad to get back to appreciating Kate, her talent and existence!”

oh, I thought I made a reasonable comment.

and I thought us KB fans were if not intelligent, then at least fiery and passionate.
digit al
05-04-2011
Originally Posted by lil lexie:
“oh, I thought I made a reasonable comment.

and I thought us KB fans were if not intelligent, then at least fiery and passionate. ”

jesus, have i started another rammy?
i wasn't having a dig....honest guv
was just trying to convey my pleasure at yerself and Zounds having put this rubbish to bed without too many blows!
lil lexie
05-04-2011
Originally Posted by digit al:
“jesus, have i started another rammy?
i wasn't having a dig....honest guv
was just trying to convey my pleasure at yerself and Zounds having put this rubbish to bed without too many blows!”

ah, ok.

In fairness to this thread though, I've been scathing of some of her output on here (in a constructive way I hope) and no one's pulled me up over it, I don't think. It just seems a daft rule and one that shouldn't be encouraged IMO.
digit al
05-04-2011
Originally Posted by lil lexie:
“ah, ok.

In fairness to this thread though, I've been scathing of some of her output on here (in a constructive way I hope) and no one's pulled me up over it, I don't think. It just seems a daft rule and one that shouldn't be encouraged IMO. ”

indeed, and if you look at post 629 i agreed with you!
i've never encouraged being restrictive on peoples thoughts and thought i'd let Zounds and iggyman spar it out....but in fairness to Zounds i think if you let too many negative comments go then the 'appreciation thread' just attracts trolls, and i definately dont mean iggyman there, and the whole point of the thread is lost!
anyway lets just....
eat the music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPB4GM-WwwY
Josh Pinder
05-04-2011
I do hope she releases a studio album fully soon

has anyone else pre-ordered the deluxe yet or not??? i cannot wait to get it
digit al
05-04-2011
Originally Posted by Josh Pinder:
“I do hope she releases a studio album fully soon

has anyone else pre-ordered the deluxe yet or not??? i cannot wait to get it ”

hey josh,
i reckon next year for new stuff. i've ordered the deluxe and the vinyl
Josh Pinder
05-04-2011
Originally Posted by digit al:
“hey josh,
i reckon next year for new stuff. i've ordered the deluxe and the vinyl”

WOAH Vinyl eh! awesome

yeah i hope next year! this year is going to be packed pull of artists i love releasing material....already own a few! so yeah i hope next year
zounds
06-04-2011
Teaser - Kate Bush - Live At The Hammersmith Odeon, 1979, Remastered Fan-Release DVD Trailer (posted by katebushfilms )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-gBhZ9o8x8
Quote:
“Kate's one and only live visual release restored and remastered for DVD, complete with bonus materials including the Tour Programme, a gallery of 100+ HQ professional tour photos plus the 'On Stage' EP.
With animated menu and full artwork this is one for the fans - play it loud!
This freely-circulated fan-release is intended to supplement the official VHS / LD release, which you must own or buy if you intend to download.
We hope you enjoy it!”

Download link soon hopefully.
digit al
06-04-2011
Originally Posted by zounds:
“Teaser - Kate Bush - Live At The Hammersmith Odeon, 1979, Remastered Fan-Release DVD Trailer (posted by katebushfilms )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-gBhZ9o8x8


Download link soon hopefully.”

another gem Zounds, cheers!
digit al
07-04-2011
its looking good
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/656...tdeluxeset.jpg
nathanbrazil
07-04-2011
Originally Posted by Josh Pinder:
“I do hope she releases a studio album fully soon ”

Yes, that would be nice. Also more surprising than a cow jumping over the moon, if it arrives this year!

Originally Posted by Josh Pinder:
“has anyone else pre-ordered the deluxe yet or not??? i cannot wait to get it ”

Not yet, I'm waiting for info as to whether ALL the tracks listed are alternate takes, or if it's just those which are also on the standard CD.

As for the single, 'Deeper Understanding', I heard it for the first time yesterday, and loved the fragility of the new version, and its stripped down feeling. Not so happy with the vocoder/ autotune stuff, which adds nothing and takes away the clinical perfection of the original. If, as is rumoured, the voice is actually Bertie, then I'm wondering if the little fellow has problems staying in tune. How awful it would be for the son the mightly KB if he couldn't hold a note!
designer84
07-04-2011
I absolutely love Deeper Understanding (new and old). I know the vocoder voice grates with some people but I really like it. It fits the story being told. I have read on several forums that Kate is jumping on the auto tune bandwagon but any fans should know that Kate likes to experiment and that any auto tune she uses is for effect. I have always been interested in Kate Bush but my love grew when the Aerial album was released. That album is beautiful. The second half I love to chill out to. My partner HATES Kate Bush and can't understand why a 26 year old would be interested in her. I often put him in his place. lol
She has more talent than most artists out there today. I really hope the new/old song breaks the top 40 but obviously there is no heavy publicity for the song and Kate hasn't really done any promotion for it that I know of. I am very excited for the album and the new material she is supposedly working on.
I think it's cool that Bertie is featured in Deeper Understanding. I wonder if he is more of the songs. It would be great if he follows his mum into the music business.
nathanbrazil
07-04-2011
Originally Posted by designer84:
“My partner HATES Kate Bush and can't understand why a 26 year old would be interested in her.”

Because you have good taste. At least, in music. It is an odd man who hates Kate Bush. What a twonk.
designer84
07-04-2011
Hahaha @nathanbrazil

He says she has a shrill annoying voice and he hates her "freaky" dancing as he calls it. He is Canadian and he reckons that no one knows who she is in The States and Canada... I did point out that her albums pretty much went Gold/Platinum in both countries. I think she has a beautiful voice and I love how experimental she is with her music. I think Kate would be my ultimate live show experience, if she ever did tour again. I have seen many people live but she is the one person I would LOVE to see. Obviously he wouldn't come with me. I would just have to take my mum who is also a fan of hers. lol
I wish it was May already
nathanbrazil
07-04-2011
Originally Posted by designer84:
“He says she has a shrill annoying voice and he hates her "freaky" dancing as he calls it.”

Eh? The shrill stuff was way back in the late 70's. Kate's current, or mature voice, is extremely sensual. Oh well, his loss.
designer84
07-04-2011
I love the "shrill" voice though
digit al
07-04-2011
Originally Posted by nathanbrazil:
“Eh? The shrill stuff was way back in the late 70's. Kate's current, or mature voice, is extremely sensual. Oh well, his loss.”

my late mother used to call her screaming jeanie, she was constantly shouting at me to 'turn that rubbish down before she breaks the china'
obviously i didn't listen.
bellapops
07-04-2011
I love kate bush my favourite track is Babooshka.
Iggyman
07-04-2011
Originally Posted by nathanbrazil:
“Eh? The shrill stuff was way back in the late 70's. Kate's current, or mature voice, is extremely sensual. Oh well, his loss.”

And even then it wasn't 'shrill' on every track - listen to the sumptuous 'The Saxophone Song' for example.

My other half is the same though, and states that she dislikes Kate because of her 'screechy' voice. When did she last listen to Kate, I ask her - turns out that she's only heard Wuthering Heights ..........
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