women are not just breeding machines, I think most people have sex for pleasure, I cant work out about choosing to be gay or not, as someone pointed out shaneen said she went with 6 women but didnt like it so its right she did choose her sexuality, but most gay people say they cant help it.

No, Im saying that is what its is MEANT for.

Taking heroin, cocaine is pleasureable also.

I believe that if sex was painful humans wouldnt do it was much and maybe they would be extinct.

Where do you draw the line ? Having sex with animals, children, dangerous sex etc... ? All can be pleasureable.



Like I said before Gay sex is unnatural

Ah Ok then whatever pericom, in that case I shall carry on as normal!

Watching television is technically unnatural.

Do you want a list?

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You dont use your penis and sperm for that!

But everything else can be used unnaturally then?

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So you ARE agreeing with me ?

You obviously missed my confused emoticon there.

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I doubt very much that many people are going to agree with you. But, hey I suppose there's more chance of Hell freezing over than getting you to admit that you could possibly be wrong.

Long live religious fundamentalism - it reminds the rest of us that we are normal

I doubt very much that many people are going to agree with you. But, hey I suppose there's more chance of Hell freezing over than getting you to admit that you could possibly be wrong.

Long live religious fundamentalism - it reminds the rest of us that we are normal

Well said.

I suspect a moderator may be tapping on a particular shoulder at some point ...

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I seem to remember that she said that she was confused about her sexuality. She experimented I don't find it a big deal.

Okay, you seem to be unaware of the rules around here. The forum Terms and Conditions state "You must not post messages that are vulgar, crude, sexist, racist, homophobic or otherwise offensive. Always treat other Users with respect." Pericom, your comments are both homophobic and offensive and are therefore not acceptable here.

Beth.

she is obviously bisexual

i HATE hussan. And as for "they will grow out of it" these arent 8 year olds-they are 18!! they are adults as far as i'm concerned and he is disgustingly ignorant

You tend to hear this happen a lot.

Women in general seem much more open to explore their own sexuality. Less inhibited about the gender. More likely to try things out of this nature.

But men in general seem to have major hangups where sex of any sort is mentioned with another man. Like there's a big stigma asociated with sex with two men. No way are they going to try it out, as they may feel they may make a mistake that could scar them for life.

Do people think that is true?
Or is the truth that there are more men than we think who do have such thoughts,..and are just more repressed about it, and just don't dare reveal their true thoughts?

I think you are getting two things mixed up here

Being gay or heterosexual is a genetic or a genetic and environmental ( in unknown quantities ) factor and is not a matter of choice

Engaging in homosexual or lesbian acts is a matter of choice, straight people can choose to engage in homosexual liaisons and still be straight. I dare say this is the case with Shaneen

Just as gay people can engage in heterosexual sex and still be gay. How many gay men through history have been married and had children ? Quite a lot I would think, though they may have been unhappy souls ' living a lie'

What you are and what you do are two different things

In answer to AM above, girls/women certainly seem more relaxed about it, thinking of Kate admitting to her three-some romps, Adele ( still not clear to me if she is a lesbian or not ), Shaneen last night. Can't imagine straight lads like Spencer or PJ telling of sex romps with blokes, even if they had tried it

Of course as a straight man I don't mind women trying it out with each other as long as I can watch

Now THAT would be worth switching the telly off for.

Ok. Shaneen said she'd had sex with other girsl when she was younger. As shes only 18 now I'd take that as meaning when she was about 15-16. A lot of people know they are gay from a very young, others know they are straight from a very young age but sexuality isnt always clear cut and some people are not totally sure. Somwtimes people may think they are straight or gay but its not until they experiement that they really discover who they are and what they want.

Every single person on this planet is different and unique and therefore so is their sexuality. Its not always black and whaite and there are a lot of grey areas inbetween.

"Like I said before Gay sex is unnatural "


Um interesting theory! - and I do see what is ment by it - Sex is for making babies (Sadly, people found out it was FUN as well )

So I would certainly say that straight sex is natural, but how can Gay sex for me personally be unnatural?
I mean, it wasn't a choice, and at no stage did I find myself attracted to the opporsite sex and I was never "Confused" - so for me, I grew up and naturally found myself that way - so for me it's entirely "natural" !

Does your theory have a solution? - I mean, what should us gay blokes do about it? - For me to be forced to sleep with a woman, would be entirely UNNATURAL in the very same way as it would be forcing a straight person to sleep with the same sex!

three-some romps?
what what??

I remember one romp(bi-curious fumbling?) with a girlfriend she mentioned whilst on the rich side.Was there more?

(totally.)

We might be thinking of the same thing

I'm remembering her telling of a week-end somewhere, Brighton ?, where she partook in a three-some with a bloke and another woman

Perhaps it was only one romp, sounded quite good though

The point is that she didn't have any great qualms in telling about it, whereas I don't think the lads would admit it if they had done it

She seemed to develop qualms about it later. I saw her snivelling to Jade about it through the bars. She seemed to have realized somewhat belatedly that her threesome story might have damaged her image. Bang goes the Blue Peter job.

The job ?

She didn't even get a badge for it........

Some funny posts
There was a threesome - when her friend and her bf asked her to join in, quite funny really
She doesn't seem the type, Jade seems more of that kind. As I am sure we shall see tonight.
W.

Gotcha.
I think it was the same thing we were talking about.
The guy was a prop and was the excuse for a bit of girly fumbling between two curious friends.He was the get out.
Sounds reasonable.
(Bit like Kate was the get out for Alex and Adele if they got all embarrassed about their affections)
Need to get the facts straight sometimes-there are so many lies flying around.
Didn't the sleaze actually sell his story for cash to a paper?
I guess this was expected and why Kate raised it herself in the house.At the time I thought it was to make herself more interesting with a story .
But your point was the guy wouldn't mention it ??
But that one did??

What a wierd thread -what on earth can it be about?