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To all those voting for Christine...
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Force Ten
12-11-2008
Actually I really like Kristina and I do like Christine too. I just happen to be rather fond of Matt!♥

However, much as I like Kristina and think she's a really good addition to the show, I do think her partner isn't trying at all and therefore I wouldn't vote for them anyway - even if John was dancing with Matt lol.

I like all the pros - some more than others - and mostly like their celeb partners too especially those who are really trying and improving week on week, but Lorelei Lee asked what I thought was an honest question, and I gave an honest answer.
anna123
12-11-2008
Originally Posted by River Man:
“I expect some of the around 5 million people who watch and enjoy Christine on the One Show are voting for her and her alone.

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so you think some of the five million people that watch the one show are voting for Christine?
If that was the case Andrew would of lasted a lot longer as he had gmtv. And what about Jessie having the 9 million EE viewers?

I think the OP asked a valid question, im sure there are people who vote for Christine mainly because they like Matt. He did win last year and is winning the favourite pro poll on here. She/he is not slagging off Christine so i dont understand why people are so sensitive about it.
Im sure a lot of the Rachel fans are Vincent supporters really its what happens when you are fond of a pro.
TheHistoryGirl
12-11-2008
Originally Posted by dome:
“Christine is far from perfect herself, maybe she shouldn't be garnering votes just because she happens to dance with Matt?

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Except that, if the answers on this thread and the one linked by katkim are anything to go by, she isn't! She is attracting votes because of her dancing/personality/partnership with Matthew but not exclusively because of it.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion of each dancer (be they pro or celeb) and, indeed, to express it as snidely as they wish within the DS t&cs, but do please give those of us who do choose to vote dancers you may not yourself want to vote for credit for doing so for valid reasons!
yohinnchild
12-11-2008
Originally Posted by anna123:
“so you think some of the five million people that watch the one show are voting for Christine?
If that was the case Andrew would of lasted a lot longer as he had gmtv. And what about Jessie having the 9 million EE viewers?


I think the OP asked a valid question, im sure there are people who vote for Christine mainly because they like Matt. He did win last year and is winning the favourite pro poll on here. She/he is not slagging off Christine so i dont understand why people are so sensitive about it.
Im sure a lot of the Rachel fans are Vincent supporters really its what happens when you are fond of a pro.”

The One Show is prime time viewing; GMTV is not

And Jessie wasn't/ isn't current and therefore does not REGUARLY appear on TV
JamieHT
12-11-2008
Originally Posted by anna123:
“so you think the five million people that watch the one show are voting for Christine?
If that was the case Andrew would of lasted a lot longer as he had gmtv. And what about Jessie having the 9 million EE viewers?

I think the OP asked a valid question, im sure there are people who vote for Christine purely because they like Matt he did win last year afteral and is winning the favourite pro poll. She/he is not slagging off Christine so i dont understand why people are so sensitive about it.
Im sure a lot of the Rachel fans are Vincent supporters really its what happens when you are fond of a pro.”

I think the word 'some' was used in that post, not that all five million are voting for her.

I think this would only be a valid and fair question if it was asked about every single couple. I do knwo this is a forum and people can ask what they want, but I am also allowed to defend Christine when I think she is being unfairly singled out.
JamieHT
12-11-2008
I see you edited it now anna123. My response was to your original post.
dome
12-11-2008
Originally Posted by TheHistoryGirl:
“Except that, if the answers on this thread and the one linked by katkim are anything to go by, she isn't! She is attracting votes because of her dancing/personality/partnership with Matthew but not exclusively because of it.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion of each dancer (be they pro or celeb) and, indeed, to express it as snidely as they wish within the DS t&cs, but do please give those of us who do choose to vote dancers you may not yourself want to vote for credit for doing so for valid reasons!”

If you read the thread you will see it was in reply to Force Ten's original post

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“If she was dancing with anyone else, I have to be honest and say I wouldn't be voting for her.”

It was friendly banter and as I have already said many times everyone is entitled to vote for anyone for whatever reason.
SCD-Observer
12-11-2008
Originally Posted by Lorelei Lee:
“So that the pros have got someone to dance with for 80% of the live shows?

Great as Matthew is, he'd look pretty stupid trying to do the tango/jive/paso/waltz etc. etc. etc. on his own ”

Or with John.
anna123
12-11-2008
Originally Posted by yohinnchild:
“The One Show is prime time viewing; GMTV is not

And Jessie wasn't/ isn't current and therefore does not REGUARLY appear on TV”

So people that watch the one show vote for her just because she s the presenter?

So much for it being about the dancing.
Aeryn
12-11-2008
Originally Posted by Lorelei Lee:
“Could I ask, are you voting because you think she's actually quite good, or just because you're big fans of Matthew?

I ask because in terms of personality and talent, she's only ever been mediocre for me, so I'd like to find out what her appeal is other than having the oh-so-well-supported Mr C lugging her round the floor every week ”

I have to get one thing out of the way first,...I unfortunatly can't vote for any of the couples because I live outside the UK. But to answer your question: I'm a huge fan of Matthew Cutler (and James Jordan LOL ) but I would not vote for Matthew Cutler and Christine simply because I don't like this partnership. It really doesn't do anything for me. Matthew and Alesha last year were magical, Matthew and Christine on the other hand aren't magical for me. No matter how much I like Matthew Cutler this partnership is a no vote for me.
dome
12-11-2008
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“Or with John. ”


You might be on to something there.
Lorelei Lee
12-11-2008
Originally Posted by JamieHT:
“I think this would only be a valid and fair question if it was asked about every single couple. I do knwo this is a forum and people can ask what they want, but I am also allowed to defend Christine when I think she is being unfairly singled out.”

Hmm, fair point, although it seems to have gone that way anyway.

I singled out Christine mainly because I (that's me and me alone, nobody else has to agree!) can't see her appeal and because I know Matt has a big, big following compared to some of the other pros.

So...let's open it up to the floor. Is anyone voting for any current couples because they are fans of the pro, not the celeb half of the partnership?

And yes, I will allow you to mention John as long as it is pertinent to the question
Lorelei Lee
12-11-2008
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“Or with John. ”

naughty SCD-O! Bad image!
SCD-Observer
12-11-2008
Originally Posted by bobajot:
“I've nothing against the Cheshire Cat(Christine) herself.”

Except you've just given her a not-so-endearing name. Name-calling, no?
yohinnchild
12-11-2008
Originally Posted by anna123:
“So people that watch the one show vote for her just because she s the presenter?

So much for it being about the dancing.”

I'm not saying they will vote for her JUST because she is on the one show; I'm saying that she already well known and is CURRENT in the public eye... it would be much easier for people to take to her because she is well known by people.

Others in the competition could struggly initially - Jodie for instance - as she is not as well known or ingratiated into the publics affections. This is not the case now however as I would say by this stage everyone has chosen their favourite (or most people have)
JamieHT
12-11-2008
OK. Good, I'm happier now, teehee. I only ever vote for the celebrities, and never the pros. I try not to let myself 'get to know' the pros too well, so it doesn't influence my judgement. Maybe this would be a good reason to change the pros every year - however impractical that may seem.
dome
12-11-2008
Originally Posted by JamieHT:
“OK. Good, I'm happier now, teehee. I only ever vote for the celebrities, and never the pros. I try not to let myself 'get to know' the pros too well, so it doesn't influence my judgement. Maybe this would be a good reason to change the pros every year - however impractical that may seem.”


You could be onto something there.
CASPER1066
12-11-2008
I just think some people take this show far too seriously, its fun, some are good some are bad some are very bad. Judges arenot getting any better.

Craig got his handed on a plate to him by John on ITT.......best part of the show so far.

PS - Craig your not intelligent enough to take on John.......
JamieHT
12-11-2008
Of course the only way to make this purely a dancing show (to begin with anyway), would be to have non-celebs and unknown professional dancers.
bobajot
12-11-2008
Originally Posted by Lorelei Lee:
“naughty SCD-O! Bad image! ”

They could do a piece from "It ain't half hot mum" with Matthew in drag.
SCD-Observer
12-11-2008
Originally Posted by Lorelei Lee:
“naughty SCD-O! Bad image! ”

Imagine ITT doing a wedding clip between Matt and John. *shudders*

No, much as I like Kristina, I won't vote for John because he's becoming a bore on the dancefloor.

Christine has grown on me. I did find her 24/7 smile suspicious at first, but after seeing her genuinely happy for being voted through last Saturday, and her willingness to improve, made me warm to her. If she does well this Saturday but be in the middle of the leaderboard, I will vote for HER.
krisskross43
12-11-2008
I vote for Christine and Matt, more times than is good for my phone bill if I am honest.

At first I was voting for Matthew but now I vote for the partnership. Christine has improved so much and I think this is what the programme is all about. I hated all the negative comments about Christine, she was judged on a few edited minutes. People were unnecessarily unkind to a young woman they know almost nothing about. I would have been mortified if some of those things had been said about me.

Anyway my name is Christine and my son is Matthew.....got to be a sign hasn't it?
River Man
12-11-2008
The debate about Christine and her 'niceness' reminds me very much of the debate over Rachel in this years Big Brother and her 'niceness'

Despite others questioning it throughout enough people agreed with me that Rachel was a genuinely lovely young woman and as we know, she pulled off a 'shock', to some, victory.

We might see a similar 'shock' in SCD.

..and just to clarify, I like Matt, but like Jamie I vote for and support the celebrity.
TheHistoryGirl
12-11-2008
Originally Posted by dome:
“If you read the thread you will see it was in reply to Force Ten's original post”

I did read the rest of the thread, but your post seemed based on the assumption (one that seems to implicitly be shared by the OP, incidentally) that Christine is attracting votes simply because of who her professional partner is. At that point, the evidence of the thread was such that such an argument woudn't seem to hold much water. Hence my comment!
Lorelei Lee
12-11-2008
Originally Posted by TheHistoryGirl:
“I did read the rest of the thread, but your post seemed based on the assumption (one that seems to implicitly be shared by the OP, incidentally) that Christine is attracting votes simply because of who her professional partner is. At that point, the evidence of the thread was such that such an argument woudn't seem to hold much water. Hence my comment! ”

The OP (for it is she ) would like to point out that she had no assumption, just a possibility whose validity she wanted to test - and which I think has been thoroughly debunked now anyway.

But don't go putting words into my posts what I never said!
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