Bit of a catch 22 situation then.......They'll only give information as long as it's unquestioned........

If this post doesn't prove my point I don't know what does, I have not spoken to him today at all, due to remarks he made last night being under legal scrutiny, and this is what I get.

not really. We were learning new bits and pieces all the time.

They only need to say whatever they want. Its our problem if we dont believe them.

Exactly Goodfella.....And it's my opinion that no proof has actually been given to back up the claim that Tommy and Jade were disqualified from winning the prize...It's hearsay...When some proof arrives I'll reassess how I feel about it....until then I'm not convinced....sorry.

but nobody cares if you believe it or not

What proof would you like?

Then why have you spent the evening arguing with me??

Heres your proof

http://www.aoqw51.dsl.pipex.com/wrightstuff.htm

Because it's raining out ?

Something more than "they were disqualified take our word for it"...Channel 4 have presented an image of what happened, it's a big story and proof of Endomol deception if it's true...but if it's going to be used as evidence it has to be more than hearsay.....

But the fact you asked hints that you care whether I believe it or not......

is it ?

Im stuck in here posting

Well done...but this doesn't actually give me any proof to the claim that Tommy and Jade were disqualified from winning.....

Edit....offending material removed by request.....apologies everyone
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It wouldnt have been very nice to say "nobody cares what you think" in my original post to you and we would have ended up "debating" anyway.

But mainly because it seemed (after Bystanders post and your reply to Bystander) that you were taking the intellectual high ground whereas the rest of us (by implication) were judged to have been going along on "blind faith".

But I agree we have wasted both our times with these posts.

Yes he does look good, would you like me to get him to stand there naked to show off his cuts and bruises and his broken leg, you just went too far. I'm out of this forum for good that was the last straw.

I made a very reasonable post and you became needlessly offended by it....There is still no proof that Tommy and Jade were disqualified from winning....And believe me I'd love it to be true...I'm going to have a field day....but I'm not taking it on blind faith...I want concrete proof before I start using it to back up every theory I've got on audience manipulation........Cheers.......

I do apologise if I've caused offense

why are you going to have a field day ?

I normally dont bother with your posts (I find them pointless ) but since this one involved someone with inside info I didnt want them thinking it was all one way cynicism here.

I can see this thread being killed if it doesn't become relevant pretty sharpish.

Everyone needs to get a grip.
Ooerr!

FJ

Sorry...Is there some point to insulting my posts? Well held on the moral high ground there.......

you were wondering why I kept replying to your posts in this thread and I wanted to get it into context. It was rude of me but you were implying that it was silly of me to keep replying to you here.

Just because I think that, it doesnt mean your posts are pointless. Im sure most/all of mine are regarded pointless too. Its not all your posts, I just feel you enjoy an debate for debates sake a lot of the time.

In Weymels case (and End1 and Gareth) I felt the posts werent pointless and didnt want them swept away by skeptics when I didnt feel it was necessary. Your first post was ok but Bystander and your reply kind of made the rest of us look a bit foolish IMHO.

Nobody much questioned the authenticity of the Radio 1 guy but people seemed to enjoy talking to him during BB4.

and why would you have a field day ?

what would you do ?

The fact that he read my Jon poem out on his show. pretty much proved who he was to me, and I did enjoy talking with him. well most of the time. But apart from that he had nothing to prove really anyway, we had nothing to question him on apart from his treatment of losing Jon votes. He was the one who came on here to defend his views not the other way round.

I thought Mesostim was referring to more to C4/Endermol with that statement not so much fm's but I could be wrong.

[quote]Originally posted by Goodfella
you were wondering why I kept replying to your posts in this thread and I wanted to get it into context. It was rude of me but you were implying that it was silly of me to keep replying to you here.

No Goodfella, let's get this in context - I replied to your post that said "but nobody cares if you believe it or not "..to which I replied "Then why have you spent the evening arguing with me?? " As in, if nobody cares if I believe it or not then why are we still discussing it? There was no implication that it was silly of you to keep replying to me at all.....

Just because I think that, it doesnt mean your posts are pointless. Im sure most/all of mine are regarded pointless too. Its not all your posts, I just feel you enjoy an debate for debates sake a lot of the time.

That's okay then.....

In Weymels case (and End1 and Gareth) I felt the posts werent pointless and didnt want them swept away by skeptics when I didnt feel it was necessary. Your first post was ok but Bystander and your reply kind of made the rest of us look a bit foolish IMHO.

I disagree...they were maybe against the zeitgest of the thread at the time but remain valid and they were never a personal jibe at anyone here......all sorts of opinions make the diversity of this forum...besides my cynicism had a point.....

Nobody much questioned the authenticity of the Radio 1 guy but people seemed to enjoy talking to him during BB4.

I did question him...Beth put me straight. BBAled's authenticity has been checked and verified.......Besides..it's the story that matters here, not the person.....

I dont know why he bothered cos he got loads of abuse too

I wasnt very impressed with his views but it was good of him to be in contact with the posters (who wanted to post).

I hope they sent the copyright fee Get onto your lawyer