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Old 22-10-2003, 00:17
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[quote]Originally posted by Mesostim
Originally posted by Goodfella
you were wondering why I kept replying to your posts in this thread and I wanted to get it into context. It was rude of me but you were implying that it was silly of me to keep replying to you here.

No Goodfella, let's get this in context - I replied to your post that said "but nobody cares if you believe it or not "..to which I replied "Then why have you spent the evening arguing with me?? " As in, if nobody cares if I believe it or not then why are we still discussing it? There was no implication that it was silly of you to keep replying to me at all.....

Just because I think that, it doesnt mean your posts are pointless. Im sure most/all of mine are regarded pointless too. Its not all your posts, I just feel you enjoy an debate for debates sake a lot of the time.

That's okay then.....

In Weymels case (and End1 and Gareth) I felt the posts werent pointless and didnt want them swept away by skeptics when I didnt feel it was necessary. Your first post was ok but Bystander and your reply kind of made the rest of us look a bit foolish IMHO.

I disagree...they were maybe against the zeitgest of the thread at the time but remain valid and they were never a personal jibe at anyone here......all sorts of opinions make the diversity of this forum...besides my cynicism had a point.....

Nobody much questioned the authenticity of the Radio 1 guy but people seemed to enjoy talking to him during BB4.

I did question him...Beth put me straight. BBAled's authenticity has been checked and verified.......Besides..it's the story that matters here, not the person.....
your original post was ok but like I mentioned the resulting reply to Bystanders post seemed a bit pompous. After that I think we were going round in circles.

your original post was ok but after that it seemed a bit cynical rather than skeptical and people dont respond well to a cynical atmosphere IMHO.

Anyway we can argue all we want now cos we may well have no more posts from people who are/claim to be connected so we can make as many conspiracies as we like now. Nobody will believe us but no-one will be much bothered.
 
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Old 22-10-2003, 00:22
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That's how you saw it Goodfella........We certainly had different views on this subject. I think an allegation of this type needs to be backed up....and I would have liked it to have been.
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Old 22-10-2003, 00:24
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and what did you mean by saying you would have a field day ?
 
Old 22-10-2003, 08:10
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Originally posted by Goodfella
and what did you mean by saying you would have a field day ?
For some time some of us have been suggesting that Endomol edits it's shows very geavily to give a false impression of what goes on in the shows. This story, if correct, is insider information of it actually happening.......For no particular reason they have given the impression to viewers that Jade and Tommy could win the holiday...we are now told that they never could...Even when Paul could choose someone to go with him it was made out that he chose Caroline and Jade was still a choice.....They did this to punish them for having sex....

That's if it's true anyway...I can't take that on blind faith alone, it's only an allegation and I'd love it to be proved.....but if it is then I'll have a prime example that Endomol do edit it's shows to create to fool it's audience....
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Old 22-10-2003, 22:54
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I dont know what you mean Edna
Ah, this must be the comment you referred to on the other thread. Do I have to offer apologies for not being online at all today?

What I mean is if someone has a row on a newsgroup they shouldn't get it into their heads that they can use this forum as another place to fight a battle. I'm not here to fight battles for the Wright family, nor do I intend to.

If they've got a fight on a newsgroup then keep it on the newsgroup. This is a decent forum and there aren't a lot of flame wars on here. All in all we can agree to disagree most of the time and while we all argue our points it doesn't stoop to the level of just chucking around stupid insults.
 
Old 22-10-2003, 23:47
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No need to apologise about anything Edna I thought you were taking a pop at me (unfairly IMHO, if it had been the case)

I think I understand you now and Im thinking it doesnt involve me so Im content

people can take pops at me of course if they think Im out of line or whatever

Apologies for any scratching of the head I caused
 
Old 22-10-2003, 23:49
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Originally posted by Mesostim
For some time some of us have been suggesting that Endomol edits it's shows very geavily to give a false impression of what goes on in the shows. This story, if correct, is insider information of it actually happening.......For no particular reason they have given the impression to viewers that Jade and Tommy could win the holiday...we are now told that they never could...Even when Paul could choose someone to go with him it was made out that he chose Caroline and Jade was still a choice.....They did this to punish them for having sex....

That's if it's true anyway...I can't take that on blind faith alone, it's only an allegation and I'd love it to be proved.....but if it is then I'll have a prime example that Endomol do edit it's shows to create to fool it's audience....
ok then, my apologies for going on about it.

I thought you meant you would go to the press or whatever.
 
Old 23-10-2003, 01:22
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Originally posted by Goodfella
No need to apologise about anything Edna I thought you were taking a pop at me (unfairly IMHO, if it had been the case)

I think I understand you now and Im thinking it doesnt involve me so Im content

people can take pops at me of course if they think Im out of line or whatever

Apologies for any scratching of the head I caused
Actually I dont know what you mean again now (judging from your other posts).
 
Old 23-10-2003, 02:02
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Originally posted by Goodfella
Actually I dont know what you mean again now (judging from your other posts).
You'll have to be more specific.
 
Old 23-10-2003, 02:13
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Originally posted by Edna
You'll have to be more specific.
were you referring to me in the original post you did (about the newsgroup stunt) ?
 
Old 23-10-2003, 02:23
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Originally posted by Edna
~shrugs~ Any other poster who pulled that newsgroup stunt would have gotten it hot and tight. That was just deliberate troublemaking.
What's not to understand? I stand by what I say that by posting the original comments about the news group, Weymel was deliberately making trouble.

And he has done and that's what irks me. Posting chunks of people's blogs with grandiose titles about confessions is just a further example of stirring it.
 
Old 23-10-2003, 02:26
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Originally posted by Edna
What's not to understand? I stand by what I say that by posting the original comments about the news group, Weymel was deliberately making trouble.

And he has done and that's what irks me. Posting chunks of people's blogs with grandiose titles about confessions is just a further example of stirring it.
ok then, I read it wrong I made a comment about the newsgroup too which was deleted (hopefully just cos it was in the way rather than provocative).

In that case, I apologise and my grovelling post above stands once again
 
Old 23-10-2003, 03:07
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Originally posted by Goodfella
ok then, I read it wrong I made a comment about the newsgroup too which was deleted (hopefully just cos it was in the way rather than provocative).

In that case, I apologise and my grovelling post above stands once again
No problem. It was the boast to the newsgroup that the fight would be brought over here that made me angry. I just see stuff like that as being rather silly.
 
Old 23-10-2003, 18:18
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Originally posted by weymel
Heres your proof

http://www.aoqw51.dsl.pipex.com/wrightstuff.htm
seems you're quite good at making pseudo photographs!
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Old 23-10-2003, 18:28
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what does pseudo mean?
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Old 23-10-2003, 18:38
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Originally posted by END1
what does pseudo mean?
Making fake photographs out of many elements.

They look pseudo to me - something not quite "right" about them - although it can be confusing if you take a "real" photo with a 10pence digital camera.

So from experience I can only give them a 60% chance of being real.
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Old 23-10-2003, 18:55
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oh right, they dont look fake to me though, if they are he must be very clever to do something like that, making photographs out of many elements sounds very complicated to me
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Old 23-10-2003, 20:04
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Originally posted by RadioMaxMusic
Making fake photographs out of many elements.

They look pseudo to me - something not quite "right" about them - although it can be confusing if you take a "real" photo with a 10pence digital camera.

So from experience I can only give them a 60% chance of being real.
I don't think they're fake. It would have been almost impossible to 'shop one photograph that well within an hour or so, let alone four or five.

Besides, it's far more amusing and entertaining to believe that weymel / reformat is Tommy's daddy!
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Old 23-10-2003, 22:20
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looking to get another thread closed, oh dear you just never stop, it is so funny
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Old 23-10-2003, 22:22
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looking to get another thread closed, oh dear you just never stop, it is so funny
Huh? How do you figure that out, weymel?
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Old 23-10-2003, 22:40
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think you're both as bad as each other...can't you take your argument to pm instead of airing it in public?
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Old 23-10-2003, 22:50
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Originally posted by END1
oh right, they dont look fake to me though, if they are he must be very clever to do something like that, making photographs out of many elements sounds very complicated to me
Yes I agree, you would have to be clever - I didn't think of that - just take it for granted in this digital age
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Old 23-10-2003, 22:53
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I think my psychic ability to see what was going to be in the papers the following day was pretty clever as well
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Old 23-10-2003, 22:55
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As for the 10p digital camera remark, it was only 5p so there
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Old 23-10-2003, 23:45
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Originally posted by weymel
looking to get another thread closed, oh dear you just never stop, it is so funny
weymel, I saw those photos last night, it is pretty obvious that they were genuine imo.
You made a comment on the deleted thread alluding to many people on here believing against you.
I wondered if it was referring to myself as I said I believed yidaho - that comment was referring to the fact that I believed something had been posted and deleted, which I had not seen, not that I was 'siding' with her.
If anything all of my posts on such subjects were in defence of yourself.

Just don't get involved in that eh?
The recent threads do not reflect the general mood of this forum and there is no need for it, if there is a problem it will be dealt with and in the meantime the rest of us on here are capable of making up our own minds.
Your other posts have been interesting and informative and I hope that you do not stop posting here.
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